Calipari expects 5-7 NBA departures...

Submitted by the real hail_yes on

Jaylen Brown had said something to the effect of he's waiting to see how the NBA decisions play out at the schools he is favoring.

If we assume Kentucky is one of the leaders for Brown, then I am guessing this would improve their odds of landing him. There will definitely be plenty of minutes available.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2015/04/06/kentucky-nba-john…

the real hail_yes

April 6th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^

Lol- that would be nice, but it doesn't sound like its happening (at least not before something happens and he takes the Pete Carrol express out of town)

I wouldn't trade JB for Cal, but here's a question... if JB were to retire tomorrow, would you be upset if Calipari was hired at Michigan? I've talked too much shit about him to support it, but I feel like a lot of people would forget about some past indiscretions... 

Perkis-Size Me

April 6th, 2015 at 4:40 PM ^

Stevens is at a top-5 basketball job right now in the Boston Celtics. And he's been there all of two years. I don't think he's going anywhere for a long, long time. At least not until he wins an NBA title.

But many people said similar things about Harbaugh, too, and now he's here. So hey, what the hell do I know?



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TrueBlue2003

April 6th, 2015 at 8:19 PM ^

Calipari cheated his way to success at Umass and Memphis, getting caught at both places, and it's really only a matter of time or effort from the NCAA until his Kentucky wins are all vacated as well. So coach Cal is a twice caught cheater and hasn't shown an ability to actually coach good basketball without cheating.

Saban, while not the most ethical of coaches, has not cheated to get where he is.  Oversigning is really unfortunate for the kids but it's perfectly legal, and until the NCAA goes to 4-year schollies or annual limits, it's going to happen at a lot of schools.  Saban wouln't be allowed to oversign here and has had great success in the big ten without oversigning or cheating so I think it'd be a lot more reasonable to be ok with him coming here than Calipari.

Tater

April 6th, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^

If I thought the NCAA was about to get rid of regulations involving boosters, players and money, I would be happy to see Calipari at Michigan.  As it sits now, though, I would be strongly against his hiring.  

We all saw what happened the last time Michigan decided to recruit like UK does now: they got caught and it set the program back ten years.  We don't need this again.

Sledgehammer

April 6th, 2015 at 7:16 PM ^

If that were the case, I still wouldn't take him. I would want coach B to stay. Cal's biggest asset is his willingness to cheat. Take that out of the equation and I'll stick with coach B. Plus, Michigan has some of the deepest pockets out there, we would be able to recruit with anybody

joeismyname

April 6th, 2015 at 11:13 PM ^

I live Lexington.....if Cal became the coach at Michigan, I would have to eat crow for breakfast, lunch, and dinner everyday for a year for all the times I've criticised him around my friends. So I hope for that reason it is never even in the realm of possibility.

However, whenever Cal retires, I don't know what these Cats fans are going to expect. They are now so used to their current system of having 3-5 new McDonald's all American starters every year, I just don't think they could get used to someone who actually builds talent and program the way a Bo Ryan or John Beilein does....from the ground up. UK fans are very used to taking the easy path to winning by recruiting the fab5 every year.

mh277907

April 6th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^

Yea, four Final Fours in 5 years is impressive regardless of the talent he brings in. Not to mention what he was able to do at UMASS and Memphis- when he wasn't getting 3 five star recruits each year. He's not the best coach but he can certainly coach. 

DrewGOBLUE

April 6th, 2015 at 5:52 PM ^

Calipari had a lot of big time recruits at Memphis, although it wasn't until the later half of his tenure there when he really started luring them in.

So by no surprise, his last four seasons at Memphis were the very successful ones. And without loads of talent during his first five years, Calipari's teams were nothing too impressive.

Old Lax Wolve

April 6th, 2015 at 7:08 PM ^

that's what cost them, not the coach's play calling. 18 and 19 year olds in year 1 versus 21 and 22 year olds with 3 years experience. It would take some extraordinary kids to pull that off against a group of men.  And they were oh so close, twice.

I'd take Calipari coaching Michigan. But JB has earned the right to stay as long as he wants, and on his terms.

Space Coyote

April 6th, 2015 at 4:07 PM ^

There is no reason for Calipari to be in before Bo either.

Calipari has made the NCAA with three teams. Granted, he's made the Final Four with three teams, which is pretty impressive (though I believe both final fours with other teams were later vacated). He's made four final fours with UK for 6 total Final Fours. No doubt, a very nice resume despite the cheating (he also has an NIT championship and has won 30+ games 9 times in 23 seasons). You discount the cheating, and yeah, that's easily an HOF resume for Calipari.

But Bo Ryan shouldn't be punished because he took a different path, and was damn successful. Bo Ryan won 4 DIII Championships in 9 years. He had two undefeated seasons. In his last 12 seasons in DIII, he didn't lose more than 5 games once and lost three games or less 7 times in 15 years. That's a team, that when he took over, went 9-17. He won 6 of his last 7 conference titles. He won 8 overall in DIII. That's just crazy impressive.

At Wisconsin he has never missed the NCAA tournament (14 straight years). He's never finished worse than 4th in the B1G. He's won the B1G 4 times, including his first year. He's made two Final Fours. He did take over a relatively strong program from Dick Bennett (3 straight NCAA showings, with one being a FF), but he built on that. I had no idea how impressive his resume was at UW-Platteville, but that's a guy that should be in the HOF.

LJ

April 6th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^

I would think Towns, Cauley-Stein, Booker, and Lyles are virtually guaranteed to go.  The Harrisons are not such locks, but their stock is not going to go up much by staying there another year, I don't think.

Lanknows

April 6th, 2015 at 4:24 PM ^

But you can certainly argue that their usage will skyrocket, depending on who stays or goes.  If one of them develops into a 20 ppg scorer or consistent 3 point shooter with that physique, a first round pick isn't out of the question at all.

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LJ

April 6th, 2015 at 4:30 PM ^

I mostly agree, but the Harrisons are a bit more of a known commodity than Caris.  They have two full seasons starting for the nation's most consistent program.  I think Levert's ranking comes a bit more from athletic potential.

But if Levert thinks his ranking is not going to get any higher than it is now, he should absolutely go as well, and I will salute him.

LJ

April 6th, 2015 at 4:32 PM ^

Why?  He's unlikely to suddenly move into being a top 10 pick.  And he wastes a year of his potential pro career (possibly millions of dollars) and risks quite a bit if he is injured or exposed as having a unrepeatable freshman performance.

If he loves the college life, by all means, stay.  But I doubt coming back is a better decision as far as his pro career.

ypsituckyboy

April 6th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^

Devin Booker got absolutely abused by Wisconsin and he wasn't even guarding their best players. He's got the offensive game for the leauge and I'm sure his defense will come around too, but he's gonna be spending a lot of time on the pine in the NBA unless he makes huge strides on that end.

Lanknows

April 6th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^

The NBA drafts on potential and figures defense can be developed.  There's only a handful of rookies playing even 20 mpg.  Most of those play for teams that are tanking, are injury replacements, or have NBDL or Euro experience.  In other words, playing time is hard to come by for rookies and shouldn't factor into decision making much, if at all.  Most development will happen in practice and daily training.

As for Booker's case specifically, he can look to Stauskas as a role model in either case (return for soph year to break out, or poor-defending shooter who had a respectable rookie year development-wise).  The difference is that nobody thought of Stauskas as a first rounder (let alone a potential lottery pick) after his freshman year.  The other difference is that Booker is never going to be a high usage player like Stauskas was with all the talent Kentucky has.

From a financial perspective, the only reason Booker should return is if he thinks he can make a leap into the top 5 territory.  The extra year of free agency more than offsets the lost earning potential of going in the 20s vs going in the late lottery.

I actually see a better argument for the Harrisons coming back. I think the best case for them is one going pro and the other returning. That'd open up the potential for a high usage role next season for one bro.  And, if the other bro succeeds, that'll shoot the stock up for the one who stuck around.

 

ijohnb

April 6th, 2015 at 4:06 PM ^

anybody else feel like Kentucky was kind of really overrated this year, both as a team and individually?  I mean the Harrison's, Cawley-Stein, Booker, I mean they were good, but were they that good?  Wisky just handed them their ass and I still don't know how ND didn't beat them.  And still as of Saturday at 8:30 many people believed they may have been the best college basketball of all time? The core of this team never won a national championship, and they still are regarded like this.  I am puzzled by the awe over this Kentucky team.  Towns is the real deal.  The rest, meh.

BigHouseBoyz

April 6th, 2015 at 7:04 PM ^

I would agree "Handed their ass to them" is a strong statement, but they did control the game from start to finish.  Kentucky made a few runs as all good teams will do.  Heck, Whisky controlled the game against Zona.  I know a number of Zona folks who are pissed that they didn't get a 1 seed over Nova.  i don't agree...but they think that.