Bill Connelly's B10 Schedule Revamp

Submitted by animalfarm84 on

I posted this in the UV thread, but thought it might merit it's own topic.

Bill Connelly just did the same exercise for the B10 that he did for the SEC (which inspired Brian's UV post).  Similar overall results, with the same outcome for Michigan's three annual games.  Worth a read:

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tjohn7

June 15th, 2016 at 12:04 PM ^

I think we would always get boned with this sort of schedule, though if Sparty regresses to the mean over time it might not be so bad.  I'd rather keep the divisions so our biggest rivals have to go down roughly the same road as us to Indy.

Tater

June 15th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^

He did cover it with a smarmy comment, though:

"We do regret not making space to protect the burgeoning blood feud between Michigan and Rutgers, two of the country's most spirited antagonists."

I think Rutgers should steal Jim Harbaugh's hat and challenge Michigan to "come take it back."  They would never see the irony that their most prized trophy is the sweat off of Harbaugh's forehead.

tlo2485

June 15th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^

As annoying as it is, adding ND to the West would get rid of every SOS issue in the B1G. Hypothetically, though, if ND were to ever join, would they accept playing in the Western markets more often than the Eastern, and would Delaney pass up a guaranteed annual ND--UM, MSU, PSU, OSU matchup for TV? No new big time team will want to miss out on the East division, IMO. Except apparently Sparty, so maybe shipping them off would help.

saveferris

June 15th, 2016 at 12:42 PM ^

Hypothetically, though, if ND were to ever join, would they accept playing in the Western markets more often than the Eastern
Doubtful. I can see MSU being the team that gets bumped in favor of ND, fueling Sparty's cries of "disrespeckt" for decades to come. In reality, if ND were to join, another complete realignment is probably in the offing.

Pepto Bismol

June 15th, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^

Makes perfect sense. Does not affect Michigan (or anyone else) in any meaningful way. There's no tradition to these divisions. Scrap them like the Leaders/Legends and balance this thing out.

Toasted Yosties

June 15th, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^

I think you give Wisconsin to Sparty as a rival. They were heading in that direction a few years ago anyway. It's been a fun game and I remember both fanbases being disappointed when they didn't play again. That'd balance it out a little more. Generally though, I like this idea. I wish we'd have kept the conference at 12 teams, played 9-games in-conference and skipped playing two teams for two years from the other division. Would have been beautiful. But this at least means we play everybody at least every other year.

A2MIKE

June 15th, 2016 at 12:39 PM ^

I think it puts Michigan in an unfair compromise of being tied to playing 2 of the 4 best programs over the last 10 years every single season.

 

I think it makes more sense to have 1 protected game (Sparty can play Penn State every year).  Go to 10 conference games, spread across 13 teams.  You would have less issues with competitive balance of schedules and guarantee playing every team 3 out of 5 years and playing most 3 out of 4 years.

Everyone Murders

June 15th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^

Really, that's all.  Poor damn Rutgers, what with its shitty rivals (IU, Maryland and Purdue*), losing its prized NJ recruits to ... everyone, and its one-sided romance with OSU.

*Presumably because those were the last girls at the bar 'round about 2 a.m. when Connelly was pairing up teams.

LSAClassOf2000

June 15th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^

Bill Connelly may have accidentally created a potential snuff film legend - something that could win the festivals for this that do exist - by pairing up Purdue and Rutgers though. I can't imagine airing that game on anything but Cinemax, and even then only after 10 PM and only if we lie a bit about the main players to the network first. 

ElBictors

June 15th, 2016 at 12:43 PM ^

screw noter dame.  that pompous collection of dickheads has had the chance to join the B10 repeatedly over the years.  now in an era of 'mega-conferences' they're left twisting in the wind alongside BYU ...screw 'em.  they'd never join the B10 without conditions and loopholes (see their ACC membership) and don't deserve our conference.

bronxblue

June 15th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^

It's a reasonable breakdown.  I also think that expecting MSU to continue to be a top-10 program is probably a bit optimistic; this is a program that made a great hire in Dantonio but already some of the cracks are showing and I'm assuming that a historically-mediocre team isn't assumed to continue this run especially when it is surrounded by far more tradition-rich programs.  So in that sense, this breaks down sort of how you'd like it; a major, national-importance game against OSU every year, a locally important, sometimes nationally relevant game against MSU, and then a feisty matchup with Minny that will likely continue to be one-sided.

DualThreat

June 15th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

Instead of all this buisiness about maintaining rival(s), which always leads to some teams getting more favorable schedules than others, how about just treating each team as A, B, C, D, etc and then just going...

Week 1:

A vs B

C vs D

E vs F

etc

 

Week 2

A vs C

B vs D

etc

 

Every team plays every other team in a huge, systematic cycle that repeats itself eventually.  If you treat this as a permutation instead of a combination (i.e. that schedule order matters), then this cycle could be on the order of 30 years or so, but each team will of course play every other team every other year at least.  The only varying factor over 30-ish years would be whose home vs whose away and the order of the schedule.

Granted, this would mean that you wouldn't necessarily play your rival every year, but... dare I say it... so what?  Part of the intrigue of rivals, to me anyway, is that they form on their own.  They are not forced.

At least with this method the schedules are as even as they can be accross all teams.  Doing this to its purest form also necessitates getting rid of divisions, too.  The top 2 teams every year would play for the title, regardless of whether they previously played each other or not.

 

EDIT:  You could always tweak this whereby if you do play someone you consider a "rival", then that game is always last on both team's schedules.  This means it's possible to have some years without a UM vs. OSU game, but when it does happen (which would be most years, given 9 conf games and 12 Big Ten teams) it would always be the last game.

DualThreat

June 15th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^

Meh.  To me, though, it makes the games you do play all the more special.

Same reason I was happy to see the Notre Dame series end for a short time.  I'd rather see more varied (and competitively consistent) schedules.

I think the NFL does scheduling the way I'm suggesting?  Not positive though.

EDIT:  Not quite - the NFL has divisions after all.  But they may do this method for scheduling teams outside of a given team's divisional/conference.

 

KungFury

June 15th, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^

The NFL is a horrible example. Not only do they have divisions, they also have entire divisions play every team in other divisions to keep the competition within the divisions as close as possible. There are only like 2 random games on a teams schedule.



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The Mad Hatter

June 15th, 2016 at 2:13 PM ^

are not the same thing.  ND is a great rival and I can't wait to have them back on the schedule.  But as much as I hate them, ND and Michigan are like two sides of the same coin.  Both are excellent schools that have more in common than they would care to admit.

OSU (and all of Ohio for that matter) is Satan incarnate.  When we play OSU it is a battle of good v's evil.  That battle must be fought every year until the sun explodes.

Hab

June 15th, 2016 at 4:04 PM ^

You know - The Game is more or less considered the Big Ten Championship Game (TM), historically speaking anyway.  Why not treat it as such?  Put the two teams in opposing divisions and let them meet in the Championship Game every year.

I know this is ridiculous and won't happen.  I'm not sure how I would feel about not having the rivalry every year.  At the same time, I'm not a fan of the disparity between the two divisions and can't see a way out of it with Michigan and tOSU in the same one.

taistreetsmyhero

June 15th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^

I think we should play Wisconsin, Iowa, MSU, Minnesota, and OSU every season, and rotate between Illinois, Purdue, and Northwestern every 3 years, and Nebraska and PSU every other year, and never play Rutgers or Maryland



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UMfan21

June 15th, 2016 at 8:48 PM ^

whatever happened to (I think it was Brian's) idea to group teams similar to soccer. Group A with highest win percent over last few years, then B then C. schedule contains a mix from each group. teams have the fluidity to change groups in the off season.

drzoidburg

June 16th, 2016 at 2:14 AM ^

i read some of the pipe dream replies of ND and was gonna ignore this, then took a chance on the article...

i definitely would prefer not playing pedo st, indiana, rutgers, maryland every year. At the least, no more often than iowa, wisconsin etc. My concern with such a large 'division' would be 3-4 way ties and possibly more unbalanced schedules. Now, what helps is our division competition has to play ohio state/mich st too, but with protected rivalry + random 7 games, could be very out of whack. That's the problem with huge conferences

But i would take his idea over the current setup just because the divisions are unfixable

UGLi

June 16th, 2016 at 2:38 AM ^

Some teams can't justify having three rivals.  

I care about playing Ohio State and Michigan State every year.  We need to play them, we need to beat them, and I hope it's normalized that both teams aren't away or home on the same year.  Sure, the Little Brown Jug is cute.  Yes, we've lost to Maryland and Rutgers recently and these wrongs must be righted.  I absolutely want to play Wisconsin more often.

But I really only care about OSU and MSU, getting ND back in the fold, and scheduling some strong OOC opponents.  Playing Minnesota or Rutgers every year is less important than a coin flip to me.

That said, I can't see how the Purdue/Indiana/Northwestern/Illinois or the Minnesota/Nebraska/Iowa/Wisconsin blocks are broken up.  Each of those teams deserves those three rivals, as they are geographic matches and have relate strengthwise historically.

The roommate switch seems less arbitrary to me.