BBQ at the Big House visitors
SIAP but I didn't see a visitors list for the BBQ posted. Anyway, the BBQ at the Big House is taking place on Sunday, July 31. Michigan is getting a slew of visitors (LINK).
Looking back at last year's list, Michigan got Amorion Walker and Kenneth Grant to sign, both of whom were not committed to Michigan at that point.
Amir Herring, Semaj Morgan, and Eddie Tuerk are all coming back for their second BBQ after visiting last year, too.
Jack Stacks Crown Prime from KC.
Easily the BEST BBQ I have ever had.
Yeah, it's freaking amazing. The Lad and I went there the night before the Chiefs/Bills playoff game. I ordered baby back ribs and brisket, both of which were superb, and loved them until I tasted his beef rib and immediately regretted my choice.
I love Jack Stacks. With that said, next time you are in KC, try out Q-39 (it's on 39th Street). You will not be disappointed.
We are currently Roasting buckeyes at Cedar Point today - rocking the B1G champion Michigan shirt with the trophy, a very rewarding experience. 🏈 🏆
Best thing in Ohio by a mile. Love Cedar Point.
I dig King's Island also!
I'm hoping we can at least sign a top 25 class.
Probably likely but also highly depressing
You over-value depression!
Top 25 for sure, but it's still too soon to get all mopey about it, methinks. Talk to me after 1) the BBQ this weekend (usually see a few commits there); 2) end of September/early October after recruits have seen a few games at home (another prime time to commit); and 3) early signing day in December before we get all doom and gloom. Another factor is many sites will do re-ranks based on film this fall, so there's a chance some of our commits could rise and look better down the road (could go the other way, too). Yes we have whiffed on a QB, yes we could use more OL, as well as DB's especially, but still think we have a foundation to work with that could pull into a Top 15 or even Top 10 kinda class if we have a really good season this fall.
Furthermore, to my point of lessening that doom and gloom forecast, let's look at our current 24/7 Composite Team Rankings, we're presently at #33 with 12 commits and an average ranking of 88.92. We have higher averages than:
#12 Arkansas (88.62/23 commits), #15 Baylor (88.09/23 commits), #19 Washington (87.21/29 commits), #20 Northwestern (87.24/20 commits), #23 North Carolina (88.76/15 commits), #25 TCU (87.52/17 commits), #25 West Virginia (86.97/17 commits), #27 Duke (85.62/25 commits), #28 Purdue (86.36/18 commits), #29 Iowa State (86.03/19 commits), #31 Minnesota (86.12/18 commits, and #32 Nebraska (87.72/14 commits), with really only #45 Florida State (90.75/10 commits), #60 (!!) Texas A&M (92.08/6 commits), and say Auburn #67 (91.13/5 commits) coming at us from behind (TWSS!)
So basically, we simply have fewer recruits than these teams, so it will be easier to improve our team rankings more quickly assuming we get high ranked recruits/Top 150 types down the stretch. It's kind of like trying to bring up your GPA: the fewer credits you have, the easier it is to make up for that B or C with more A's down the road, but you have to get those A's. More open slots means more short term fear/anxiety, but also more possibility to jump teams in front of us more quickly.
Ranking by average, we're something like #24-ish currently (a much better indicator at this stage than that #33 overall team ranking, in my opinion), with again, fewer commits than save a handful of teams above us (that have 11-14 commits: MSU, Louisville, Florida, USC, Oregon) all of which very much keeps us in the statistical conversation to crack into the Top 10-20, but probably not going to be in that Top 10 tier this year, granted.
All that's to say, it's really just a too soon to tell situation, but did want to serve up a healthy dose of (ir)rational optimism because we're not in as bad a spot as some make it seem. To those in that latter camp I say: "Oh stop it, stop it. Now look here, you can't become a bloody fiscal hermit crab every time the 24/7 Composite Rankings undergoes a self-correction. Michigan's 2023 Football Recruiting Class has no where to go but up!"
Not to mention, Michigan’s average is dragged down a bit by having a kicker commit. Average jumps from 88.92 to 89.73 if you exclude the kicker.
Kudos on the level-headedness. But more importantly, bravo on invoking the words of Stewie in your analysis!
They will have a top 25 class after the final stars are in place. Also, Nyckoles Harbor is still very much in the running - and hes a top 10 recruit.
Unfortunately that's not good enough to compete for championships
You have no liquid in your cup!!!
The '18 class that just led the team to a championship was ranked #22 in the composite.
Dont worry they will be within the top 15 this year. Composite avg stars are a better way to look at recruiting, vs ranking. Why? Because the overall ranking considers total number of recruits. If you look at AVG stars they would be ranked like 17th or 18th right now...with more recruits to sign.
Just kidding 49 times?
I bet your dogs don't really like you.
Sort of weird puahback against what seems like an obvious truism. Am I missing an example of a team from the SEC or BIG competing regularly without consistent top 10 , if not top 5, classes?
Yes UM was awesome last year and the team included a single recruiting class ranked in the 20s during the past 5 years but the others were always like 8-12 and even that level of recruiting wasn't enough to consistently compete. Now your looking at classes more in the avg 15-25 range if current approach were to remain.
I'd be very happy to be wrong but I can't see how that isn't a recipe for very mediocre team esp. given the rest of NCAAF landscape
Clemson won a NC in 2016.
Their recruiting classes for 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012 were ranked #11, #9, #16, #15, and #20, respectively.
Yes, the Clemaon model will work assuming the UM QB is the Heisman runner up and we switch to an ACC schedule.
Are you related to Maizen?
Speaking of which, should we be concerned that Harbor won't be at the BBQ?
AAU track Junior Olympics begins Monday and I believe that's where he is.
Going to be a rough few years on the field if we cannot recruit in the top five, even top ten, in the nation. Recruiting matters!!
Tell that to the '18 class.
Got smoked by Georgia. What were their recruiting rankings since 2018?
I'm 100% fine with having seasons like 2021 on the regular.
So you felt the need to post an If, andarrah, couple of maybes? Yet we just won a BIG10 Championship with a bunch of nobody's? It's almost like people drink Miralax before they check in on our football posts.
Uhh the classes after '18 were ranked like 8,10 and 12 so far better mid twenties also if your idea of "competing" is once every decade than I guess you'll probably get that.
Why don't you post on a good day like on the day of the 2022 BBQ at the Big House?
Gardner has canceled his visit and is visiting Oregon instead ahead of his announcement next week. Predictions have flipped from Michigan to Oregon as a a result.
Florida is trending for OSU commit Dijon Johnson (4* corner). I'm not really sure where Aaron Gates fits in with them, but since this is his 3rd visit to Ann Arbor, I see that one going our way.
We need a DT so McDonald is the one to watch, besides Davis.
Would love McDonald. Think we'll have to wait til his official in the fall for him to drop. I doubt he's a top priority for Georgia though which helps us
A lot of great prospects coming in. Jaydn Davis may be right at the top of the list, importance-wise.
2023 visitors seems like a lot of current commits and then a few remaining prospects Michigan is behind on. I thought this was something big.
Visits tend to swing some recruitments. Also, I think it's significant when kids visit Michigan on July 31 when they're probably starting football practice in the next few days. That shows some serious interest. Personally, if I were starting practice on Monday, I wouldn't be wasting time visiting a school I don't like and flying home the day/night before.
per MHSAA rules, monday, 8/8 is the opening for high school practices. they are allowed 15 football activities throughout the summer though.
Traveling from West Bloomfield or Dexter to Michigan is not an issue, though. The kids from metro Detroit are going to come no matter what, because it's a Sunday and it's only a 45-60 minute drive.
The bigger issue is the kids coming from California, Georgia, North Carolina, etc. Georgia and North Carolina both start practice on Monday, August 1.
That would be relevant only for recruits from the State of Michigan, where travel plans wouldn’t be a big deal to begin with. What are the rules for states like Georgia, Florida, Texas and other states that some of these recruits are from?
There's always one!
I wish that were true, that it was just one.
Eddie Tuerk went to my high school. We typically suck ass at football for some reason, while Naz Academy (JJ McCarthy) down the street seems to do much better. So its good to see someone from my high school get interest from Michigan.
That's all I can add to this discussion.
Bring out the whole milk too!!
LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!
Thanks Mags!
Reading between the lines on Hill the CB from Kankakee Illinois is recruiting him harder but if Harbaugh and the staff would step up his recruiting it would make a big difference.
Will there be raisins in the potato salad?