Baylor Football Accused of Hazing Freshmen by Having Them Drug and Gang Rape Freshmen Girls (Moms: Lock at your discretion)
From the Waco Trib article (https://t.co/oJ740WbDLw) pic.twitter.com/FDXk7JkS8y
— Gabe DeArmond (@GabeDeArmond) May 17, 2017
(h/t Garrett Fishaw)
EDIT: Superstringer has pointed out that the accusation isn't new, but the lawsuit is new. He provided this link: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19403308/woman-reported-gang-rape-baylor-football-players-files-title-ix-lawsuit
Why would you make this thread
Because it's a huge deal.
I have known 2 women who were both drugged gangraped by athletes (and recuits) on their college campus. Both also had roommates who had been through the same experience (with the same athletes.) It's things like this that really do require a change in college social culture. Especially considering the student who died at Penn State recently...the idea that 18-22 year olds are being trusted not just to have parties, but with the safety and well-being of their fellow students just doesn't seem like a great idea.
One of the side stories at Steubenville was a second girl coming forward and claiming to have been trained by the players several months before at a pre-season baseball "party" that sounded to me an awful lot like a hazing. (Of the players, not the girl. That in itself is really strange, and in this case too. In my day you licked ketchup off the gym floor or went to class in your underwear--now instead of humiliating yourself apparently you bond by humiliating someone else)
It was never clear what had really happened--on the one hand there was a third girl with a story of how she had been bullied over the course of a couple of years by players who claimed they had trained her when they actually hadn't; on the other hand there were locals who said "they do it every year and it's no big deal." And of course it could have been consensual, even legal, if it happened.
Either way, it gave me the creeps. It was so much about the humiliation, not the sex. Nasty stuff to be into at 15 or 16 years old.
I'm too quick for the moms
LOL great gif
If this is confirmed, they need to burn the place down.
I have a daughter in college and if this happened to her, the place would've been burned down already and the guys who did it to her????? Let's just say they wouldn't be seen or heard from again..... This kind of crap is a as sick as what happened at PSU and our culture needs to start waking up and realize there are a lot more important things in this world then sports.
Was this recent behavior, or when Briles was still there? How does this football program still exist? (I know, allegedly-but there are TAPES!)
SMU got the death penalty for paying players and their parents in the mid-80's. This is so far beyond disturbing. This so-called Christian institution is a cespool of greed and depravity. Fucking cut them loose.
that's... inaccurate
I will neg every post you make from now to eternity for such a weak ass generalization.
If anyone really has enough energy to stalk a poster and neg him all the time due to being insulted by a generalization on the internet, the stalker officially qualifies as "creepy." I recommend finding something to be excited and happy about as a lot better use of one's time.
As for the actual piece, I hope the victim gets justice. You can't erase such a horrible experience, but $10 million or so would go a long way toward giving the victim a decent life.
Bringing up religion not the best idea on a football message board, disparaging them all is even worse.
death penalty
I don't think there will ever be another death penalty. too much $$$ involved unfortunately.
If Penn St didn't get it, no one ever will again
I hold out hope that you are wrong.
Related note -- It's really up to us as the people who provide said $$$. Even if the NCAA is too gutless to penalize Baylor, if we put pressure on UM and therby the B1G, followed by other conferences, to stand up and refuse to schedule Baylor in any sport (or just football) until meaningful sanctions have been provided, I believe that would get the ball rolling.
I like it, but that would be such a huge undertaking that I'm not sure it is even possible.
It shouldn't have to come down to the schools doing their own policing. But the NCAA is totally ball-less so nothing will get done.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Big picture, the NCAA is the schools. Nothing more, nothing less.
Schools love it when their fans don't think to blame them for NCAA actions.
naw, I'm not going to bother my AD with the intense problems of another institution. If anything, we should be emailing someone at NCAA HQ, not Warde
WTF does our AD have to do with this?
should get death penalty if its all true...unfortunately its unlikely to happen as proven by the psu disgrace
Have been and always will be old testament. Life expectancy of a fruit fly for that crime. By the way any one heard anything about those gentlemen that play for msu. I guess the female prosecutor from ingham county must have gone on a early summer vacation. Hope we can get some recruiting threads as all this did was make me angry.
What a young woman suffers, when this is done to her, is worse than death. These girls are months removed from high school. Those of you who are fathers out there: what if this was your daughter?
Is there anything worse than the death penalty that could be imposed? Like, could Baylor football just have its severed head kept alive in a jar, to serve as a reminder to other wayward programs?
I think forcing them to stay in the Big 12 is that type of punishment, no?
I vote for literal death penalty (not for the players but for the program obviously). Baylor should no longer get to play football.
What if other teams just refused to play them? If the NCAA won't ever do anything about it, I would like to see the other schools take a stand. Don't schedule them. Starve them of revenue.
At halftime of a home game last year
And still, after all of that, were made by the media to be victims who were finally experiencing their healing/redemption by winning the B1G last year. So, yeah, fuck Penn State.
I have a general rule, if something looks like it's from a Bret Easton Ellis novel rather than a police report, I tend to the skeptical.
Not saying this didn't happen, but that's a level of fucked up that usually resides in fiction.
And I'd be willing to bet, quite often is, influenced by real life events.
Duke Lacrosse
Sabrina Erdley Rolling Stone story
I've heard many an awful story myself, but none rose to anywhere near this level. So when stories seem to be piling on, fulfilling a narrative, and involve some sort of high level conspiracy I get skeptical.
At no point did I say there's no way it happened. It just seems a little too sensationalized.
If it did happen, then nuke the football facility from orbit it's the only way to be sure.
Thing is, we remember stuff like UVA and Duke Lacrosse largely because they are lurid exceptions to the rule. False allegations of assault are very rare things. There's certainly something to be said about the lure of sensationalist narratives, but think all the abuses by celebrities, by the Woody Allens and Bill Cosbys, by trusted authorty figures like clergy and doctors, and by people's neighbors - all of them unchecked. In the vast majority of these cases, part of the reason we all collectively side-eyed them was because it was someone you couldn't imagine doing these kinds of things (sadly not the case here since it's a college football team) or because it seemed to crazy to be true.
The majority of these cases are he said, she said, with no rape kit samples available or any eye witnesses. The risk of reporting a sexual assault allegation on a college campus is so low now, especially when the accused is NOT a student athlete on a premier program, and restitution you get from the courts and the school can be so big at times
I consider false reports no laughing matter, just like rape. I've seen young men online commit suicide after all they go through as a result. Both sides of the issue have reached a serious crisis point, and we should neglect neither of them
"The risk of reporting a sexual assault allegation on a college campus is so low now"
There should be no risk of reporting a sexual assault allegation anywhere.
meant there is no risk in in falsely reporting an assault, and there should absolutely be a risk involved. If it is proven that the claim was a lie, why should the accuser who has severly damaged a persons life be let off scott free? They should do the jail time that the accused was facing, or should be expelled from school if its a title ix.