7 players leave Old Miss on heels of another Oversigning
More of the same from Ole Miss and the SEC in general, as covered by Dr. Saturday. Nothing really new here, but I do wonder how they get away with it on the APR side of things. Even if all these players are acadmically eligible, aren't you taking at least a 1 point hit every time one leaves?
February 11th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^
Did they go to New Miss?
February 11th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^
Lol. Nice
February 11th, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^
New Miss is Division II, so they can switch schools with minimal interruption.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:54 PM ^
No, they went to New Miss' bitter rival, Old Hit
February 11th, 2011 at 3:19 PM ^
Aaaand it's a swing and a miss, folks!
February 11th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^
This issue, to me, is just another threat to the integrity (what little is left) of college FB.
How the SEC, nay the NCAA, can allow this to continue is beyond me.
Fortunately, I think that the MSM (ESPN, SI, etc.) have started to focus their attention on this issue, and with any publicity, I cannot see how the NCAA doesn't fix the loopholes that allow for this.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:31 PM ^
You said, "Fortunately, I think that the MSM (ESPN, SI, etc.) have started to focus their attention on this issue, and with any publicity, I cannot see how the NCAA doesn't fix the "
The very same way they fixed steroids and pay for play.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^
I care about integrity, but there's another problem. Alabama will never have an Obi Ezeh situation because they can recruit 4 guys for the position the next year, let one of them win the job, and then kick the others off the team. Oh, and they can do this every year, so that not only is the starting spot covered, but every spot down the depth chart is covered as well. Even professional teams are more regulated than that.
Michigan simply cannot compete with that unless they hit a bunch of home runs.
February 11th, 2011 at 1:57 PM ^
Nah, Impossible. SEC does things by the book. ! LOL ! What a JOKE !
February 11th, 2011 at 2:10 PM ^
but it seems the practice of oversigning would be an easy way to encourage kids to play in the B1G versus the SEC. Just let them know that if they get hurt their freshman year (you could even use the words "because shit happens") they're incredibly likely to find themselves out of a football scholarship at a school like Bama.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:33 PM ^
None of the kids that get escorted out of the program ever think they are the one's that would be escorted out.
They think they will be battling for PT right away until they get their wakeup call.
Do you think a kid signs at Alabama and thinks that they are in the bottom 10 percent of players on the team..............especially when satan is telling them that he will get them developed for the next level?
February 11th, 2011 at 3:06 PM ^
I honestly would have no problem with the coaches saying the facts about schools like Ole Miss and Alabama. It's not like the coaches are saying "lol JoePa is old, why would you play for him?" They would be pointing out a serious potential hazard in the recruits future.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
Ole Miss/ Houston Nutt has signed 92 players the last 3 years, of which only 51 remain on the roster...<jaw drops>...this isn't even close to reasonable or defensible or anything short of cheating. It is terrible to the kids and embarrasing to the sport of football. How many players has Michigan signed in the last three seasons (2008-2010)? It gives them a huge advantage in sheer numbers alone.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
http://www.the-ozone.net/football/postseason/oversigning.html
This first link compares the number of players signed by Big Ten teams in the last four years vs. the number of players signed by their SEC 2010 bowl opponents during that time. Miss. St. out-signed Michigan by twenty players. Arkansas out-signed OSU by thirty!
This second link will show you every major conference team's signing numbers since 2002. http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/
Example: Auburn has signed 28 players per year since 2002. Michigan has signed roughly 22.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:36 PM ^
Thanks, those tables are pretty telling. It really is an eye opener, I hope the NCAA gets on top of this situation soon. They should be protecting the rights of the student athelete, not just promote an environment that allows some schools to take advantage of them.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:45 PM ^
Oversigning is pretty vulgar when you think about the advantage that a coach and school have going into the contract negotiation that is a scholarship offer made to an 18-year-old kid.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:29 PM ^
bad luck
February 11th, 2011 at 2:21 PM ^
OMG OVERSIGNING IN THE SEC? not fair!
February 11th, 2011 at 2:39 PM ^
Makes you wonder why these kids still go to these schools in droves. I realize they are in the South, closer to home, better chances of making it to the National Championship game every year, etc, but at the rate that these schools shed kids I just would not feel secure at all no matter how prestigious I was coming out of high school.
Slowly but surely, this sport is becoming a business. Such a sad decline. What will be left of sports and amateurism when it all becomes a money grubbing scam?
February 11th, 2011 at 2:41 PM ^
We could use a good run stopper in A2.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:46 PM ^
February 11th, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^
And most have little sense of what college will be like, including the fact that most won't be the best player on the team any more.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:11 PM ^
February 11th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
but, I think since there is a simple solution, there is no reason to allow these kids to be put in situations where they are forced into making tough choices. Life has plenty of tough choices that we all make, but seriously why not help the student-atheletes to make better decisions with an easy rule change or two? No reason to let these kids walk into the grayshirt/medical redshirt/etc...trap that the SEC is baiting its campus's with.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:19 PM ^
Oversigning is like sex, and Houston Nutt is the giant broken condom that gives a false sense of security, when in actuality he's about to let some little swimming dewds get past him and create a scholarship-less babby.
And do NOT feel sympathy for that babby now that he's in juco in the middle of rural Mississippi
February 11th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
I was wondering why my wallet had the outline of Houston Nutt's face deeply dented into the leather. Now this is all starting to come together for me.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
February 11th, 2011 at 5:07 PM ^
Sooo it's kind of like how can I like cucumbers but hate pickles?
February 11th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^
It surprises me that other schools who are playing by the rules aren't screaming at the top of the lungs. If for nothing else for the cheating aspect as has been mentioned. It is hard to compete with schools that can simply cleanse their rosters of underperforming or injured players to make room for more. Think about if michigan could, right now, get rid of players they didn't want and replace them with ones they think might do a better job. Why AD's and head coaches are not carrying this torch is beyond me.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^
Have these schools taken an APR hit from kids leaving? Anybody know where that kind of info is?