1971 Sandusky victim says Paterno told him to drop his allegation; six PSU coaches reportedly saw abuse
Also, many of them were/are Penn State fans too.
Too much education to be selected for a jury? Arrogant much? Clearly someone who knows nothing about voir dire strategy. What a joke.
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although sometimes it is clearly either or. I don't know to whom you are responding, but there are a large number of Americans who actually believe the constitution guarantees a right to be judged by a jury of your peers. I add this because the last time I had to point out the fact it does not was to an attorney's wife. I told her the only place I know this to be a fact is in the Magna Charta and that under our legal system we are granted the right to be judged by a fair and impartial jury. Now her's was a case of arrogance: "I am the wife of an attorney, so of course I would know." It sounds like you hit the combo.
Honest to Christ they have to kill the program.
If the B1G doesn't kick PSU out of the conference, I think that the other 13 members should leave and start a different conference.
It's absolutely sickening
i wanted to see UM leave over the MSU/ohio scheduling and rutgers/maryland even before this. Now i'd rather see UM in the fucking Pac-12 or SEC or independent than this shit
Keep their scholarships, transfer if they want to. That's not punishment by most peoples' standards.
hurt. Makes sense.
then no matter what infractions an institution or a program commits, they can't be punished.
the players at this point joined a program they knew has a steeped history of child rape, and that more revelations would likely come. So too bad, they're way down the list of concerns
years ago, I remember reading a very long post on another forum that made claims that this whole thing went much much deeper than just Sandusky, Paterno and Penn State and that it involved a much wider reaching area that included former pro athletes, businessmen and politicians and possibly the mob from around Penn and New York. That some of the names involved would "shock you".
There was also a rumor that tried to tie the murder of a Penn. attorney to this.
Starting to believe this is way way bigger than just a PSU thing.
but it seems like it should never come to light if it was such a guarded secret... IDK
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Honestly, none of this really surprises me. Stuff like this does not just happen for decades without people knowing about it and sweeping it under the rug. These individuals acted in fear of the program and, with little doubt, thought Joe Pa would take care of it.
Is it bad that I hope Joe Pa and anyone that knew about the abuse rots in hell? Is it wrong that I hope nothing but bad things happens to Penn State and their football program?
I'm trying my hardest to be level headed about this whole issue and looking at it if it wasn't Penn State, but Bo Schembechler and Michigan, and I still cannot find a ounce of sympathy for the program or individuals that enabled these crimes over multiple decades.
Does their football program deserve the death penalty? I'm not sure, but I do think they should be booted from the Big Ten. Something needs to happen and I think thats the best solution at this stage.
How long was Larry Johnson on that staff? Schiano? That's two ex-PSU coaches now on the OSU staff. Hope like hell they were not part of this in even the most minute way but with the way this is unfolding anyone associated with that program under Paterno is tainted.
Just hard to imagine working there with Sandusky lurking around and the suspicion of this type of thing floating over his head and other coaches not sensing/hearing/noticing that something wasn't quite right with him. Its so big with that charity and his seeming lack of concern for getting caught that others on that staff and to suspect that this kind of thing was at the very least a possibility.
...called Harbaugh's recruiting tactics "innapropriate." The hypocrisy was commented upon. By everyone. Notably, this is the one topic that OTE's Michigan and MSU fans completely agree upon.
On a more serious note, this news, like everything else related to this topic, is utterly sickening. And so are all the PSU fans and alumni who think Paterno's reputation is more important than the victims of child rape.
It's for this reason that I can never and will never EVER support psu.
I'm disgusted that the Big Ten, knowing the depth and breadth of this story, hasn't booted Penn State.
Membership in the AAU is deemed more important than memebership in humanity, I guess.
As the final, crowning piece of its quest for institutional, academic, and athletic legitimacy, and that PSU used it's football team as the vangard of the effort, makes me ill to have them as a member of the B1G. PSU does not represent the values of the B1G as it covered up horrific crimes to gain admittance.
If true, PSU should shut down its football program. The kids can be released of their commitments without penalty and the college should have to honor all the financial obligations to the current coaches, BUT SHUT THIS POS PROGRAM DOWN (if true).
I dislike these guys more than OSU.
I feel sorry for the average, non-JoeBot PSU fans or alumni. What a terrible mark on something you love.