Save Non-revenue Sports!

Submitted by L'Carpetron Do… on December 29th, 2020 at 2:55 PM

In the wake of the coronavirus, college sports, especially “non-revenue” sports, are facing a reckoning. The cash flow that funded college athletics uninterrupted for decades was suddenly shut off in the spring of 2020, putting the future of many programs in jeopardy. This comes at an interesting time - most major Power 5 schools recently received huge payouts from their conference TV deals and were awash in cash. Despite this windfall, departments continued to cut sports and the coronavirus all but assured that many of these programs are doomed. Big-time athletic programs like Stanford, Iowa and Minnesota recently announced they will drop a total of 19(!) sports. 

When faced with budget crises, athletic departments often look to less popular sports for savings, although they are often low-budget programs with razor-thin margins. This creates a paradox in which football and basketball - the profits from which essentially fund all other sports - are bringing in more money than ever, but athletic departments are pouring that money right back into those two sports, causing low-cost programs to be dropped. The current trajectory is unsustainable. With athletic departments cutting programs based on their profitability and acting more and more like corporations, the future for non-revenue sports looks bleak. Do the revenue-generating sports deserve to get baller locker rooms, rad facilities and generous perks and resources? Of course (in fact, I think they should be paid but that’s another diary altogether). However, if we continue down this path, football and basketball will be the only men’s sports left. 

It’s important to remember why these programs exist in the first place. They weren’t founded as money-making opportunities; they were largely started by the students to represent their schools in athletic competition. Some of these teams date back more than a hundred years to a time when athletic scholarships didn’t exist and professors often served as the coaches. Even today, many of these athletes are not on scholarship nor are they pro prospects, but they compete for the love of the game. It’s also important to remember that there is still value in these programs, even if their bottom line is red; they enrich college experience for several students - and as MGoBender pointed out one day - they bring in tuition money for the university. And that money is not counted towards the athletic department’s budget.

The NCAA prides itself on upholding the “scholar athlete” ideal but if it wants to retain that status for the future, it must change. The NCAA cannot continue doing the same thing in a post-corona world. What that might look like is anybody’s guess. But I wanted to foment discussion on how to save these programs and offer a few ideas of my own (some are wacky, some might actually work).

     1. Fix the One-Size-Fits-All model

The NCAA’s three-division structure is designed to prevent the Alabamas of the world from beating up on the D’youville Colleges and University of Okobojis (one of those is real) and to divide the field more equitably between the haves - (most D-I schools offer full scholarships, D-II, partial scholarships) and the have-less (no athletic scholarships in D-III). But, this hamstrings other sports, especially highly regional ones where there may be few D-I opponents in close proximity (think of Arizona State hockey’s travel budget). The NCAA’s general structure and rules also create a high barrier for entry for new programs: new sports can require huge commitments of millions of dollars because these programs have to compete with the fully-funded title contenders. There’s no way to start a new sport on the (relative) cheap. To that point: The only reason Sun Devil hockey exists is because a pair of major donors poured in serious cash to fund it.

My solution would be to allow certain sports to play a limited number of official games against Division II, III and even “virtual varsity” club programs and have those games count towards their ranking and postseason play. The current division system is too rigid for many smaller sports. I would also allow for “super clubs” to join Division I which brings me to my next point...

    2. Bring back “associate status”, especially for regional sports.

After the NCAA officially created the division system in the early 70s, it allowed for “associate” or non-scholarship  programs to compete with varsity-level teams for a period of time. This system worked especially well for men’s lacrosse which at the time had only a handful of officially university-sponsored programs. Duke, North Carolina and Virginia Tech all started out as associate programs and were allowed to play a Division I schedule. Duke and UNC went on to become unmitigated success stories, producing All-Americans and winning national championships (VT balked, ended up with an unfriendly AD who led the department into a budget crisis and they’ve been a top-flight club team ever since). I think this type of hybrid program could bridge the gap between varsity and club teams and fill out the NCAA and conference ranks of these sports. It will also provide much-needed flexibility for regional sports like hockey (61 men’s teams), lacrosse (73 teams), wrestling (78 teams) and volleyball (23 teams!!!) to grow at the D-1 level.

When I was a freshman at Michigan, it blew my mind that the men’s soccer team was in its first year of varsity play. I couldn’t believe that Michigan-  an athletic powerhouse in football, basketball, hockey, everything - didn’t have a sport as basic and popular as soccer. But, this is not unusual, even today many big schools don’t field men’s soccer. Soccer is an interesting case - more than 200 colleges sponsor men’s soccer at the D-1 level but they are mostly smaller schools (only nine of the 14 B1G teams sponsor soccer; compared to five in the Pac-12, two in the SEC and one in the Big XII). Some universities with “more-money-than-God” like Texas, Florida and USC do not have men’s soccer teams. Under an associate program, these types of schools could expand their athletic departments to include soccer and other sports. 

Mid-major schools that don’t benefit from insane conference-TV money like say, Bowling Green, which recently axed its baseball team, might be able to keep non-football/basketball sports alive through an associate program. It could also save wrestling and men’s gymnastics teams, which are next on the chopping block in many places. I think it could be a valuable tool in Title IX compliance as well - athletic departments could use it to balance resources among male and female students by adding non-scholarship sports for both genders.

The details could be tricky but I imagine something like this: allow universities to sponsor a maximum of three associate sports at a commitment of approximately $100K per team (no scholarships of course) to pay for a travel budget and coaching salaries. And allow the players to supplement the rest through dues and/or external fundraising if needed. Let the teams recruit as if they were official varsity teams. The NCAA could even expand its postseason format in several sports to include a certain number of the best associate-status teams. So basically, these teams would be varsity in everything- uniforms/equipment, coaches, recruiting, postseason competition-  except for scholarships.

There are drawbacks, however. Renewing such a program could run the risk of schools cutting varsity programs to associate status rather than bringing club teams into it. And it could hurt mid-major schools who will be at a disadvantage if bigger schools can jump into Division I, even if those schools cannot offer scholarships. But, if coronavirus is going to alter the landscape of college sports for the future, this might be the way forward.

    3. Promote certain secondary sports to help recoup as much revenue as possible.                                                                                                                                                                             Maximization of profits shouldn’t be the goal of amateur sports but for spectator-friendly non-revenue sports - baseball/softball, hockey, soccer, volleyball and even lacrosse - it should be. These are actually strong products (ever see a Nebraska women’s volleyball game on BTN? It’s incredible) but they don’t get the eyeballs they deserve. I believe ticket sales and TV viewership would increase with better promotion. And if they get popular enough, some programs might break even or even turn a small profit. The NCAA, conferences and athletic departments should do more to maximize exposure and viewership for these sports: they have more potential than most people realize. Other ideas related to this:

   - Move baseball and softball to summer. Or at least bump the season back a few weeks. This is unlikely to happen, but I believe revenue for NCAA baseball and softball would skyrocket if they played a summer schedule. While there is not that much demand for these sports generally, I think interest would increase dramatically if they played when they can be seen. I never attended a baseball game while I was a student at Michigan and I saw one softball game. But, I did spend a summer in AA, and would’ve loved to enjoy a pleasant evening drinking a beer and watching a ballgame. The 2021 season is the perfect time to experiment with this.                                                                                                       -  Name, Image and Likeness. The use of NIL should not be restricted to football and basketball players only; it could help nonrevenue sports as well. If a school has a swimmer, gymnast or track star who will be on the U.S. Olympic team this summer - let local businesses use him/her in ads. This could also help generate interest for the player and program within the local and university communities.            - Annual Non-Rev Sport Summit. Why not hold a summer NCAA Olympiad every two or four years to showcase college talent in “Olympic-style” sports like swimming/diving, wrestling, gymnastics and track and field? Don’t know if that would work but what the hell? People would watch. 

     4. Allow for  partnerships: USOC, USTA, PGA.                                                                              

College hoops and football operate as free minor league systems for the NFL and NBA, while also pretending that the NFL and NBA don’t exist. But, the NCAA should allow for certain pro organizations - especially for nonrev sports - to create partnerships with the NCAA and/or conferences and maybe even provide funding for certain programs and/or players to play collegiately.

    5. Move away from the corporate model and stick up for small sports.     

I don’t know what this entails exactly, but maybe the NCAA should require P5 schools to field a minimum number of men’s teams (Title IX compliant, of course)? I would like to see the NCAA form a Nonrevenue Sports Committee (maybe absorb it into the Strategic Planning and Vision Committee) to focus on issues facing smaller sports. And some regional sports like hockey, lacrosse, volleyball - and “niche” sports like crew, squash, rifle(?) even skiing(!) - would benefit from a growth committee to encourage other schools to sponsor the sport. I also want the NCAA to support more sports at the college level. Every college in the U.S. has men’s and women’s rugby but how is rugby not an NCAA-sanctioned sport?

When athletic directors cut sports because they are unprofitable, it becomes harder to argue that college athletics are operating under an amateur model, especially when contrasted with the fact that the “amateurs” who generate millions of dollars for their schools are unpaid. Because of the artificial constraints of the NCAA’s amateur model, these schools are at a loss on how to spend it so they pour it into exorbitant contracts, buyouts and severance payments for coaches, assistants and ADs. Or they spend it on “arms-race facilities” like overpriced weight rooms and locker rooms for the exclusive use of the football team. Ultimately, I believe that the NCAA should be about representing athletes at all levels in all sports. It should be expanding opportunities to more students. 

Do football and men’s basketball generate the most revenue? Of course. And do they deserve to enjoy the fruits of their labors more than say, the golf team? Absolutely. But, the amount of money in today’s college sports is both a blessing and a curse - it’s truly an embarrassment of riches. And if the schools and the NCAA don’t get their priorities straight, the days of amateur collegiate athletics will be over. 

Comments

L'Carpetron Do…

December 29th, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^

[Author's Note: I am a huge advocate for nonrevenue sports and I am very interested in the expansion of sports at the Division 1 level, so that is likely coloring my perception of the current problems facing collegiate athletics. I also had something of a unique college sports experience: I played two club sports at U of M, both of which were very different. I played lacrosse when the team adopted a "virtual varsity" approach (it is now Division 1 real varsity) and I later played rugby, an extremely talented and athletic club that became one of the best teams in the midwest despite not having a real coach (rugby is still not sanctioned by U of M or the NCAA).]

xtramelanin

December 29th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^

You’re basically mandating that schools fund less profitable non-revenue sports or sports that people simply don’t like in large amounts (e.g., soccer). You can’t force people to like them, or to go to the games, or to watch on TV anymore than you can force television to put some of the stuff on TV. It’s great that those sports exist, but you can’t force the economic models that make up the reality. Corona wounded the golden goose.

Also, to comply with Title IX, that makes it tougher to have even some of the other men’s sports that might be closer to being in the black being played because they have to fund the women’s sports which are complete money losers.  i’d be curious if there is a single women’s program at any university that is in the black. I hope that there are, but I just can’t imagine that being true.

Solecismic

December 31st, 2020 at 4:50 AM ^

The last time I looked, maybe 3-4 years ago, no programs aside from some power-five football programs and men's basketball programs turned a profit. Not even the UConn women.

It's very expensive to run a sports program, especially with travel costs and facility maintenance. You could get volunteers to coach and it wouldn't make a huge difference in that equation.

The average Division I sports program runs more than $10 million per year in the red. This is covered by government stipends, student fees (at many universities, tuition may be more than $1k higher per student just to add to the sports budget), hitting up alums for donations. It's expensive.

Schools try and promote these sports, but there's only so much they can do. There's limited room for sports attention and most of that is taken up by the professional leagues. ESPN and some of the league networks have tried to generate interest in women's college basketball, and it helps, but no one turns a profit.

I don't feel strongly enough about the whole "is it worth while" argument to make much of a case, but I assume universities are around in order to educate young people. Expertise in a sport may be part of that, hard to say. But I don't think it's realistic to assume that non-revenue sports can even as much as break even anywhere - additional marketing at some point becomes throwing good money after bad.

So it's up to each university how much they're willing to spend.

As for the publicity rights, well, how much are they really worth? And how easy would it be to find a wealthy alum willing to pay a top recruit a lot of money to run a local ad on facebook that no one sees? All this strikes me as just a way to grant a tiny number of potential first-round picks in the two major sports an awful lot of money 1-3 years before they'll earn it anyway.

No one is going to pay a kid on the swim team much of anything without getting access to the university brand as well - and that, well, universities have 100-page rule books about how their marks can be used, and that doesn't come cheap at all.

Change has arrived, but I don't think it means what a lot of people think it means.

ehatch

December 29th, 2020 at 4:32 PM ^

I don't know the finances, but the ones that might are blue blood Women's basketball programs might turn a profit (Tennessee with Pat Summit, UConn, etc.). I think Utah gymnastics has consistent sellouts, so they might be at least close (also some of the SEC programs are also a big deal)

umich1

December 29th, 2020 at 4:37 PM ^

Following this logic, should I also assume that the University will stop investing in unprofitable research, stop funding scholarships and grants, stop offering unprofitable degrees such as the arts, and stop investing in unprofitable joint ventures such as M-City?

I always thought public institutions made investments that benefited the public good and supported the mission of the university.

xtramelanin

December 29th, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^

apples and oranges, but all universities stop funding unprofitable research at some point - or the money comes from the feds.  that's not what sports are about.  and i have no idea what you mean by 'public institutions', far too broad to get a handle on that one. 

L'Carpetron Do…

December 29th, 2020 at 6:29 PM ^

I'm not mandating schools or athletic departments do anything other than their stated mission which is to provide students with academic and athletic opportunity. I'm trying to hold them to that. Again, this isn't supposed to be a business, so economic models shouldn't apply. This is what I mean when I say that athletic departments are acting more and more like corporations. They're not and they're not supposed to be.

 And I didn't say 'let's strip football and basketball of all their revenue and give it to the water polo team'. I'm calling for a more equitable sharing of that revenue. If the football and basketball players can't get paid,  I'd like to see that money fund other sports rather than go to absurdly stupid facilities or bonuses for grown men in corner offices. And I didn't even call for caps on compensation for coaches, assistants, ADs and conference commissioners which I think is perfectly reasonable. 

I live in Iowa and I cringed when the Hawkeye athletic department gave $1m to it's scumbag S&C coach (already the highest paid S&C coach in the land), to leave the program because he treated black players like shit. You know what they did right after that? Cut men's and women's swimming/diving, men's tennis and men's gymnastics, nearly 100 student-athletes in total. (I would love to see the university respond by telling worse-than-useless Gary Barta 'Ok, you cut a quarter of the athletic programs, we'll cut a quarter of your salary,' but that will never happen. Edit: holy shit I just saw this anecdote in the SI article posted earlier today)

I don't think I'm out of line when I say that shit needs to stop. 

xtramelanin

December 29th, 2020 at 6:57 PM ^

i likely cringe at much of the same stuff you do.  but i also cringe at mandating that X% of the football budget must be placed in somebody else's budget - that's a gentrified version of communism.  your OP says you would force schools to promote sports that are unpopular.  they do a bunch of that at michigan, including at the big house right now during commercial timeouts and have for years.  what effect has it had?  what more are you calling for here?   are you aware of any schools that have done some significant version of what you are proposing and, if so, how has it worked? 

it appears you are implying that corporations are inherently bad.  some certainly are, but schools can be pretty bad, too, and particularly with wasting money.  running something like a corporation as opposed to running it like a government entity actually implies (generally) that resources will be used more efficiently.  seems like a good idea.  

and if it needs to stop, why don't you become an AD, or a regent, or some other part of the machine?  that's not a rhetorical question.  get involved, get hired, go for it.  

L'Carpetron Do…

December 29th, 2020 at 7:36 PM ^

Maybe I will, fuck it. But, until then, as a fan, do I have no right to be critical of it? Are you fine with the path college sports is on? You seem to be suggesting that the current use of resources is efficient. Paying Gus Malzahn $21m not to coach football doesn't seem efficient. But, is it OK because he was a football coach and people like football?

Maybe these sports are unpopular because the schools (and the networks) don't do enough. I don't know of schools that have done something like this but Nebraska women's volleyball gets great crowds. So do the Iowa and Oklahoma schools for wrestling. The Maryland-Hopkins lacrosse game got something like 21K fans a few years ago. 

One simple thing they can do is not schedule other games at the same time as football and basketball. I know some mgoblog folks get ticked when hockey or women's hoops play at the same time as basketball. That's an easy change they can make and it won't cost a dime. One of the lacrosse team's biggest home games a few years ago was 1) in February (stupid) and 2) on at the same time as the State game. They don't get big crowds anyway, but still, more people would've watched or gone to the game if it wasn't so stupidly scheduled. And I'm not really a hockey fan but I've heard gripes from fans here who are pissed that M hockey is rarely on BTN and that the NCAA tournament format is awful. If you want the sports to gain in popularity, even a little bit, fix those problems. 

And communism?!?! Get out of here with that shit. Again these aren't corporations - THEY'RE ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS. 

UMinOhio

December 30th, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^

Colleges and universities are not corporations. They should not be run as such. Some corporations and schools ( here is looking at you for profit schools) are terrible. I would like to go further in saying that corporations have a reputation of being efficient that is not entirely earned. Many corporations receive large federal and state subsidies, paid usually by taxpayers,  direct and indirect, that make their bottom lines look rosier than deserved. The US government often protect domestic corporations from overseas competition. Corporations pay much less of our federal budget that is picked up by US taxpayers than 40 years ago, and just got another set of tax breaks under the current administration. Corporations hide behind limited liability entities, often hiding taxable income that the average taxpayer can’t. Corporations write off equipment over years), such as jets, while we must pay taxes on a car purchase before we get the keys.

Schools get much less state support as their state corporate tax rate goes down, with tuition rising as a result. I suggest reading Empires Apart by Brian Landers for example after example how unbridled corporations, supported by our government, have screwed the pooch.

putting money into a money-losing university department or sports team is not communism. Trotsky, Lenin, and their ilk could not care less. Communism seeks to transfer  property and money generating entities to the state. Universities are not governmental states. 

 

CC_MFan

January 6th, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^

Academics is more than just classroom experience.  A University is to give the student a well rounded education which should include exposure to literature, the arts and athletics.  Current college athletics are not part of the educational experience and only benefit  a small amount of the student body.  I guess that college athletics are about school PR and regional prowess, which shapes public opinion of the said university. 

So I personally think that the universities should offer a more cohesive intramural program to benefit all student's.  Maybe the only way to do that is to have fewer major sports that are financially beneficial for funding. 

Hail to the Vi…

December 29th, 2020 at 8:38 PM ^

Correct, people don't have to like/watch them, but at the same time, just because they don't turn a profit doesn't mean that they shouldn't exist. There are a lot of things in our social ecosystem that produce value even if it isn't monetarily. 

It's great that athletes that want to pursue the sport they excel at, aspire to do so on scholarship at a university. Even if it means they don't get a paycheck at the end of the day. There is value in learning about commitment, making sacrifices, experiencing victory and defeat. Things that can be applied to many aspects of life that make you a better contributor to our society. 

My point is, the impetuous of "it doesn't turn a profit, therefore it is worthless" is not an environment anyone would want to live in. Even for those who shortsightedly think it sounds good on paper.

I do think the players that participate in a program or sporting arena like college football or basketball deserve a cut. There is also enough money undoubtedly to pay those players and still support field hockey programs, or gymnastics, or track and field. 

Otherwise, lets just tell great swimmers and volleyball players, and softball players and rugby players to not aspire to do anything more with their athletic careers after high school. Your talent won't make people money, and therefore it is worthless.

Colleges have been funding non-revenue sports for decades and decades. They should continue to do that, even in the era of NIL because sports provide more value to people and their community than how much money they can make. 

RAH

December 30th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^

Your statement was "My point is, the impetuous (sic) of "it doesn't turn a profit, therefore it is worthless"

I think that is a complete mischaracterization of the issues involved. It really is a strawman.

The discussion is about eliminating programs that cost more to operate than they bring in. That is, they cost the school money. I don't know of anyone who wants to get rid of a sport that pays for itself. 

Like anything that has a cost, you have to weigh the benefit received from spending the money on something with the benefit that can be gained by spending it elsewhere. 

Rather than mischaracterizations, you should be offering ideas on what spending should be cut to pay for the cost of running these programs.

Hail to the Vi…

December 30th, 2020 at 1:34 PM ^

Nothing about my response is a straw man. You said you can't conjure up revenue for sports that people don;t care to watch, and I agreed. It seemed like you implied that athletic departments shouldn't use revenue generating sports to in-part fund programs that don't turn a profit:

"You’re basically mandating that schools fund less profitable non-revenue sports ​​​​​​"

and to me that sets a bad precedent. I cited the reasons why I think that. 

I'm not being sanctimonious, I think an element that can get lost in translation around the NIL topic is that the purpose of an athletic department is not to generate profits. For the select few programs that do, that's great.I am completely in favor of players getting a cut of that money as well

The point I was making is that the value of a varsity athletic program shouldn't be measured solely on how much revenue it generates for its school, which seemed to me you were implying.If that's not what you were implying, then fine we probably see it the same way.

Not trying to get anything off my chest, was just killing time on a sports blog.

 

L'Carpetron Do…

January 2nd, 2021 at 12:34 PM ^

Idk, XM, you're complaining about straw man arguments while also invoking communism, which is like the mother of all straw men. You might be saying 'great for nonrev sports' but the tone of your posts comes across as 'fuck 'em if they can't bring in millions on their own and don't touch my football budget.'  You seem to be overlooking: 1) ridiculous bloat and inefficiencies in football and athletic dept. budgets (that's what needs to be fixed) and  2) this is how college sports has always worked, it's not communism.  Football and later basketball, have always brought in the cash for other sports. Was there ever a time when swimming, track and golf generated enough revenue to make profits?  No.

Again, the point of college sports was never to make money, it was to give students an opportunity to play and represent their schools. And as someone pointed out in this thread - universities also valued athletics as part of the educational experience. 

 

ex dx dy

December 30th, 2020 at 11:57 AM ^

The purpose of a university is not to make money: it's to educate students. The historic model of the university considered physical education and competition to be part of the well-rounded student. There are many other things a university spends money on that are dedicated to the idea of the well-rounded student that don't make the university money.

Obviously, a university needs to balance its books overall, but there's no reason any individual program, athletic or otherwise, needs to break even.

blue in dc

December 31st, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^

His first two suggestions seem to be ways to reduce the amount that schools need to spend on non-revenue sports not increase it

His third and fourth suggestions are ways to increase funding for non-revenue sports.

It is only his fifth suggestion that could in any way be construed as requiring funding for non-revenue sports, but if it were combined with the other ideas it is not clear that even that would ultimately end up being true.

Also, even in power 5 conferences not all football programs are profitable.   I suspect the case is worse in non-power 5 schools.

L'Carpetron Do…

December 31st, 2020 at 2:52 PM ^

Jon and B-Nut: because the clubs are primarily student-run and student-funded and they actually get little help from the university. It costs a lot for the players to self-fund and self-manage a club from the ground up. But a little help from the athletic department - which is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things - goes a long way at many schools. Also, the clubs can't represent their schools in NCAA or conference competition.

The clubs I played for got a few bucks from the university (I think the Student Activities budget?) but it made up a small percentage of the overall cost to field the team. We supplied the rest in dues, fundraising. And the only time the rugby team ever heard from the university was when they told us we couldn't do something. Most of the time, the U and AD treated both teams like we were a pain in the ass. 

L'Carpetron Do…

January 5th, 2021 at 12:42 PM ^

Well, true. But, why does any university spend $ on anything then? My point is: at many schools there is an insane amount of revenue - enough to support sports other students are playing/want to play. My proposal calls for a small amount of money from the athletic budget to help cover the cost of some teams to compete at the Div 1 level. The student-athletes supply the rest - it wouldn't be totally free. 

And some of these sports aren't that expensive: for soccer you only need goals and a field (which most schools already have). For  wrestling and volleyball, some gym space, mats and a net. On top of that, coaching salaries and a travel budget, but you get the idea. 

It doesn't have to be sports necessarily - I'd like universities to support a ton of extracurricular activities (esp. because tuition is expensive as hell now - students should at least get something else out of it). But my point is: the interest in sports is there and there's money to support them. 

OSUMC Wolverine

December 29th, 2020 at 3:11 PM ^

sadly i think two mens sports and 4-5 womens sports to match total scholarships is a near certainty. i think covid is simply speeding up the transition. as soon as paying players in some fashion was acceptable to even discuss, i assumed this would ultimately be the end of non-profit college sports. as soon as it became acceptable to value one athlete over another it became inevitable

Montana41GoBlue

December 29th, 2020 at 7:26 PM ^

I tend to agree.  I had brought up how a star QB, RB or WR doesn't perform in a vacuum, his teammates help in his success.  I was downvoted significantly.  People hear "pay the players" yet don't think or consider all the longterm implications.  Just like the CFP, will have to let this play out and then wait for everyone to say 'wow, didn't see that coming" when it all turns to crap.  Damn shame. 

MGoBender

January 1st, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^

There are things that can be done in some sports to get them 'less in the red.'

For example, Eric Bakich has been one of the big proponents of shifting the NCAA D1 baseball schedule into the summer. 

Could you imagine a college baseball season that starts in April and ends in early August? Teams would sell out their stadiums every Friday night, maybe every weekend game. They - and softball - would be massive beneficiaries of only competing with MLB. You'd get rid of some of the expensive travel required by northern schools in February.

HonoluluBlue

December 29th, 2020 at 3:36 PM ^

Recently Azusa Pacific University announced they would be cutting football. Their most famous alum is the Nigerian Nightmare, Christian Okoye, but this announcement is significant for another reason. They were the last Division II football program in all of California. They were an NAIA program until 2011 and then made the three year transition to Division II. Hard to even know what is a revenue sport anymore.

DoubleB

December 29th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^

Football isn't a "revenue" sport at a lot of D-I schools--I doubt UTEP or New Mexico State make money (although it's possible donors at those schools would stop donating if the school dropped the sport--in other words there are more moving parts to this than a simple balance sheet).

Ironically football helps to keep a fair number of D-III schools running. Small liberal arts colleges with large football rosters need a) the tuition dollars from those students and b) the male enrollment to keep some gender balance at the school. These programs may not generate revenue in a traditional sense, but it's hard to argue they aren't revenue "positive" as without football (and other sports) the schools would close.

MGoBender

January 1st, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^

In D3, just about every sports team is 'revenue' in the sense that if those teams didn't exist, those students wouldn't be at that school. It might cost $1M to run a d3 football program, but those 80 kids at -say- an average of $20k tuition (plus the small amount of revenue the sport brings) means that it becomes a net gain.

ehatch

December 29th, 2020 at 4:48 PM ^

Thanks for the ideas. It is extremely disappointing to see that some of the programs that are being cut (Iowa swimming, which has an amazing history is just sad to see go). 

Some comments

1. On the 1-size fits all model. There is a huge disparity in competitiveness. For example when I lived in Denver, I swam at Denver University. One morning we were there at the same time as University of Nebraska-Omaha was warming up for their dual meet with DU. My then fiancee who was ~49 years old at the time was blowing by them during our workout. My wife is a fantastic swimmer, but shouldn't be beating college aged women. DU is a top 20 program, needless to say this was not competitive. Not sure how much this would help as travel costs might increase (or might decrease as you could play smaller schools in your area).

 

2. The Associate program is a good idea, one that I didn't realize that they had gotten rid of it. I knew a woman who played Water Polo for Michigan State, they weren't a varsity sport. They played UM every year, UM was a varsity sport. 

I like your ideas, but I think with all the money being directed toward coaches salaries, it is going to be an uphill battle. Does anyone know if there is an option to direct where donations go? I'd love for my donations to go to the swim program (or any other Olympic sport). 

SecretAgentMayne

December 30th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

Omaha resident and University of Nebraska-Omaha alum here (Go Mavs!),

UNO's decision to move to D1 was massively unpopular with a lot of people in the Omaha metro area, as it involved cutting our reasonably successful DII football program and our national championship-winning DII wrestling team. And for what? So the rest of our athletics teams could go DI and be mediocre, of course. Athletics at UNO are (usually) an absolute joke outside of hockey sometimes, and even then nobody really cares that much about it.

 

bleu

December 30th, 2020 at 8:35 PM ^

Thanks for posting this. I agree with your sentiment and concern and wish there was an answer.

Unfortunately, unless university leadership sees value in the team or incredibly wealthy and generous donors influence their decisions, I don’t think there’s a solution. Athletic Departments can already run teams on discount budgets and no scholarships. Most D1 schools choose not to, likely because of the desire for competitiveness while also saving a small amount of money.

Potentially helpful (and ironic) rule changes would actually cap the money on the non-revenue sports. For example, if all track teams in the competition didn’t have scholarships and were limited to $X budget, it’d be easier for the marginal team to survive tight times. Of course that’s asinine, so asinine it might just please the Athletic Departments.

While I’m disappointed with the skew toward revenue within Athletic Departments, I’m doubled disappointed by their handling of non-revenue sports as if they were revenue sports. Philanthropy and community support are the answers to save these sports and what many of us love about collegiate athletics. These non-revenue sports are well-suited to build that community, and often do. Only for the Athletic Department to see a quick dime, and lacking any imagination, attempt to market, brand, and sell everything the community found charming and lovable.

nick614

December 30th, 2020 at 8:43 PM ^

Non revenue sports are in trouble because the president of the university voted to cancel the season and then delayed it long enough to ensure revenue would be a fraction of normal levels.

So step #1 should be fire the president of the university

shoes

December 31st, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^

I would rather see more resources put into intra-mural sports (along with things like music and theater arts) to provide the opportunity for a well rounded experience for a much larger group of students than the still relatively select few who participate in non-revenue sports.

My IM experience at Mich was an important part of my 4 years.

mlax27

December 31st, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^

I know of some smaller D1 schools that have added non-revenue sports as a means to INCREASE revenue?  How does that work?  Well, it first comes from the realization that a scholarship isn't an actual cost to the university.  It doesn't cost $10M a year to run a 40 person lacrosse team.  In fact, most athletes don't have a scholarship, and only average roughly a quarter scholarship per player.  So those players are paying 75% of the tuition, while the incremental cost to sitting 1 additional student in a classroom (or zoom session if this is OSU) is zero.  

By allowing an additional 40 athletes to enroll, while paying 75% of their way, it increases the revenue from tuition, which is roughly offset by the cost to run the team.  It also increases the profile of the university (not a benefit for the Texas/Michigans of the world), which further increases enrollment as some of those athlete's friends/classmates now might consider that university.  It also increases quality of life on campus, which further helps the university brand.  

arjungg

January 1st, 2021 at 10:27 AM ^

Non-revenue sports need to be treated like non-revenue. If they're costing too much then decrease expenditures or shut it down. Title IX really effed up by making every non-revenue sport twice as expensive to save. At the very least end all athletic scholarships for these and use it on the other 50k students or just use em for more academic schollies. Stop wasting money on communications degrees.

crg

January 2nd, 2021 at 8:25 AM ^

It seems about time that universities should be forced to re-evalute if they should even be allowed to monetize their student athletics (or at least how much they should be allowed to monetize it).

Just look at last night's Clemson-OSU game... one could easily have mistaken that for a regular NFL game if they had no knowledge of the teams and didn't hear the word "university".  And how many of the starters on either team have genuine interest in being there to get a degree and actually pursue a career with that degree?  Major college sports are broken and the money is the reason (and letting even *more* money into the equation, via NIL or or other mechanisms, is not going to fix anything).

Let's compare the situation to just ~40 years ago or so (which is not some "olden days" of college sports that is not the "modern era" that people like to lazily over-simplify for the sake of their argument... hell, probably almost half the board here can remember that far back in time).  Football was still "king" at most major shools, but the revenue/expenditures (inflation adjusted) were nothing as compared to today.  The football team (just one sport within the athletic department) did not have a higher operating budget than entire academic departments with colleges (such as chemistry, physics, biology, mechanical engineering, etc.) or even some colleges within the university (college of music, college of art & architecture, college of nursing, etc.).  Yet today, simply the salary of a single football HC might dwarf the entire budget of some of these entities at some schools.  People justify it by saying that it is the "market rate" for these people and that they "bring in" more than enough revenue to compensate... both claims are (mostly) true, but is that *appropriate* for an institute whose charter purpose is higher education?

There are several routes to achieving an equitable solution, but none of them will be driven by the current leadership (ncaa, university presidents, etc.) because no one wants to kill their "golden goose".

Mpfnfu Ford

January 2nd, 2021 at 6:17 PM ^

Why should predominantly affluent athletes get scholarships to college to play sports nobody watches and take money that belongs to athletes who are on average not well off to do it?

OSUMC Wolverine

January 5th, 2021 at 1:16 AM ^

Athletic scholarships should be awarded based on family income...Im ok with that. Why not? Put all athletes, lets say 1000 at a school for ease of discussion, and school has 300 full scholarships to award. Award the 200 lowest income families full, 200 next lowest half, and 600 to pay for school themselves, or seek other academic scholarships. Any money saved reducing the number of athletic scholarships would allow for more academic scholarships which is where the money should be anyway in a higher education setting. It benefits academics and supports lower income families, seems like a win win.