Fee Fi FAU Film: FAU vs. Kansas State 2023

Submitted by dragonchild on March 25th, 2024 at 1:25 PM

Game:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR3W7zsfHhU

Let's start with an obligatory DISCLAIMER that I am by no means a basketball expert.  I'm not even anyone's idea of a kinda-knows-basketball sort of guy.  I'm just a desk potato with feelingsball.

First impression: this was a tough, physical game.  Second thought was that while I picked KSU for the sole reason that it was the biggest win in FAU's history, I felt in hindsight that this was a great game to review.

. . . by which I mean, KSU felt like a "modern" team in terms of makeup, the sort of squad you'd see plenty of in deep tournament runs.  For the most part they looked very quick and long, at least compared to FAU, making it very tough for FAU's create-the-open-man passing game.  FAU was forced into 22 turnovers and much of these were intercepted passes.  On the flip side, KSU also tended to be more performative, flopping on defense and showboating themselves into some silly mistakes -- but I do have to say that I didn't feel it was excessive.  Probably at the upper limit of what I'd tolerate, if I was their coach.  Nowell gave up a few opportunities with flashy passes to nobody (buddy, a no-look between-the-legs bounce pass may be un-defendable but it's also meaningless if your teammate doesn't know it's coming either), and for a stretch in the second half KSU let FAU back into the game with rushed and/or sloppy theatrics.  But I do have to say, they more than made up for it with a crapton of hat-tip plays.

FAU, for their part, looked ready.  They opened the game with a bang, a 3-pointer and two blocks, and closed strong.  Box score says they also went nine deep with four players scoring double digits, which is not what I expect to see from an underdog.  There were times both teams got carried away by momentum, resulting in those back-to-back turnovers you see in almost every game at every level, but neither seemed to ever rattle the other.

I also thought both teams did well at forcing the other into tough shots (floaters, off-hand layups, long 3s).  The problem FAU had was that KSU was just darn good at making them, finishing 27/58 including 10/22 from 3.  Related note, FAU also couldn't do much about Nowell being a bona fide playmaker (30 points, 5/11 from 3, 12 assists, 5 steals).  IMO, it was reasonable metaphor for system vs. talent.

FWIW, I felt Goldin had a moster game.  His stat line was decent (14 pts, 13 reb, 2 blk) but six of those rebounds were offensive, and all game he was making his presence felt.  Late in the game he kept FAU alive with some clutch baby hooks.  FAU does not win this game without their big man.

I noticed a significant difference in approach.  Like I said, KSU was good at making tough shots and Nowell was a serious problem for FAU all game, so KSU was content with (it's oversimplifying but it gets the message across) a quick-hitting "one-pass" system.  Nowell either did something incredible all by himself, or they'd use a high screen to get him loose (FAU's answer seemed to be drop coverage which often didn't go well, but they couldn't switch so whatchagonnado ¯\_(ツ)_/¯), or his immense gravity freed someone up for an easy look.  They did have a slick 2-man off-ball game, with someone smartly cutting at the perfect time for Nowell to find him -- but FAU was pretty good at reading those as well, as often as not breaking things up and forcing KSU to start over.  On that, I liked FAU's help rotation -- how often do you see a desperate close-out get easily pump-faked for an open jumper?  FAU would actually have a second guy close on the jumper!  They weren't as athletic but they almost always seemed to be in position to contest the shot.

What slowed KSU down was that everyone seemed confident at making the tough shot, with somewhat good reason TBF, but a good number of floaters, long 3s, airborne pump-fake up-and-unders and other flashy crappe that FAU was content to let them try, didn't go in when I felt they could've been more patient.  On defense, KSU was athletic enough to switch, which gave FAU a ton of problems.  Screens looked basically ineffective and midway through it looked to me like a ritualistic formality to trigger sets with off-ball movement, which were somewhat more effective but holy cow every pass looked incredibly dangerous.  FAU lived with its passes getting picked off but persisted with its philosophy, although in the 2nd half this seemed to more come from transition and capitalizing off KSU mistakes.  Overall, KSU did a great job of defending the perimeter and collapsing in the paint.  I just don't know if that's their thing, or if FAU was that much of a lunch-pail-and-JAS program.

Anyway, like I said, length vs. passing was a game-long problem for FAU.  FAU did try their share of low-percentage shots, and those often didn't work out, but it tended to feel like the reasonable option left.  I don't know how they ranked nationally but at least compared to FAU, KSU looked like a formidably swarming defense that made passing dangerous.  Despite that, FAU somehow finished 26/54.  They withstood the pressure and stuck to creating open looks whenever they could, but were smart about quick-hitters when KSU wasn't set.

I'm not sure how to sum it up, but it reassuringly feels like FAU wasn't overly reliant on any one thing.  They didn't lean on one player to carry them, but they definitely needed their best to step up.  They faithfully executed their system but didn't stubbornly insist on it; they were smart about capitalizing on mistakes, especially in the second half.  They were by no means perfect, but overall they looked comfortable and disciplined.  In short, they looked like an athletically limited but well-coached squad.  Most importantly, they didn't rely on miracles.  They couldn't match KSU's length or Nowell's playmaking, but they knew their strengths & weaknesses and leaned on the former just enough to win on their terms.

Comments

Michigan4Life

March 25th, 2024 at 2:25 PM ^

Considering FAU lineup is largely 4 guards and a center so them struggling against length isn't surprising. Johnell Davis is 6'4" masquerading as PF. Luckily, May has mentioned somewhere that they want to find athletic 4 who can compete against teams with size. I have to imagine that it's easier to find that player at Michigan as opposed to FAU. 

It's hard to tell what he'll do at Michigan, but I think he'll do 3 guard lineup with a tall wing player and a big at all time. I'm sure he'll prefer a tall wing player who can shoot to space out the floor like a Livers type. He needs that type of player to survive B1G. 

The premises of his system is everyone needs to be able to shoot, dribble and make good decisions. It's similar to Beilein but not similar at the same time. It's part of the reason why his system worked at FAU because they have guards who can do all three from 1 to 4.

dragonchild

March 25th, 2024 at 2:45 PM ^

Yeah everyone except Goldin looked smol.  The encouraging thing was FAU didn't lose composure or have a superstar go nuts or rely on Wisconsinball crap; in fact KSU was visibly more inclined (but I'll reiterate: not excessively) to do those things despite their clear physical advantage.

As mentioned in the podcast, May mostly recruited his team, but to your point, I don't think they emphasized enough that his job was to recruit players to FAU.  There's no evidence he eschewed athletic wings so much as he was never going to get one to play there.  Goldin himself looked like a throwback big of the sort premier programs wouldn't be interested in.  May probably won't reel in one-and-dones to Michigan, but the growing consensus is they're of limited value in college anyway, and I don't see any reason to assume he can't find some decent wings and sell Michigan in a way he never could at FAU.

Michigan4Life

March 25th, 2024 at 3:27 PM ^

The good news is he can find a big who is skilled like Goldin who can score, pass and make good decisions. Wonder if he'll go to the European market to find a big or two. 

He should be able to scale up in recruiting and target the state of Indiana hard. It's supposed to be a good '25 recruiting class. Rumor is he's after a GA from Indiana and he supposedly has a lot of connections with the in-state Indiana recruits. 

WestQuad

March 26th, 2024 at 8:00 AM ^

The NBA is doing itself a disservice with the one and done policy.  I don't watch the NBA unless the Pistons are in the playoffs, or having a very good year, but I've watched a few hours over the years when I saw Trey Burke, Caris LaVert, Duncan Robinson or Franz in a game. But I'd have a hard time telling you what Houstan, Diabate or Jett even look like.  I have to google Diabate's name everytime I mention him.  Hell, in the 90s I once watched half a Dallas Maverick's game with a friend because Jim Jackson from OSU was in it.  

...and if you follow the Pistons, those 1 and done guys sort of suck for a long time.

Duke seems to do o.k. with those players but Callipari has proven that it is hard to utilize that kind of talent.  The whole is less than the sum of the parts.  

It is nice to see your players go far in the NBA, but I'd rather Michigan win.  I hope May puts together winning teams who stick around.  If you can get a 1&D here and there you sort of have to take them, but they shouldn't be the primary targets.

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 25th, 2024 at 6:41 PM ^

What a fun game that was*. Great post.  I really came away with the same impressions as you (game flow, a couple much needed FAU buckets by Goldin, etc). from what I skimmed of your diary.

*And we'll never see it in this conference!  So many timeouts would've been called during those stretches of fun up and down, pure basketball.  And no Big10 coach would let their star (Nowell) have that much usage.

dragonchild

March 27th, 2024 at 8:16 AM ^

The refs were pretty loose with KSU's frippery, and I was impressed with how FAU kept their composure.  Very Harbaugh-esque.

I cracked a smile when even the refs got tired of it and no-called the obvious flop that resulted in a Goldin one-handed thunderdunk.  Jackass would've been in position to contest it if he hadn't decided to lie on the floor like a dead fish.