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Brian January 28th, 2020 at 2:36 PM

Poor Damn Ronnie Bell. Some weird drops stuff hit the internet a few days back. First a CBS article mostly focused on Miami QB Jarren Williams, who hit the portal after the Hurricanes took Houston transfer D'Eriq King. The article makes the case that Williams stats underrate him because Miami had a ton of drops and then incidentally bombs Michigan's WR corps:

Williams' on-target rate was a full 16 percent better than his completion rate. Of the 106 FBS QBs with at least 200 pass attempts last season, only one had a more considerable disparity between their completion percentage and on-target rate. That was Michigan's Shea Patterson, who had an on-target rate of 75.2 percent while completing only 56.2 percent of his passes for a 19 percent difference (so maybe it wasn't his fault at Michigan, either).

Per this article Michigan WRs had the worst catch rate in the country. If this caused you to do a double-take we are on the same page. I went back to UFR charting through 11 games and that does not line up with my takes, to say the least. A guy on twitter summed it up:

Routine catches make up a majority of charted attempts so I am nowhere near that.

The same service tossed some individual numbers to Tom Fornelli and ah yes there it is:

All those balls that dinked off Bell's fingernails apparently count. (Also how does Michigan have a catch rate of just 75% if Bell, who got the most targets, is the worst guy in the country with an 83% catch rate?)  Are we filing this as a drop?

I'm not. This is why UFRs have clips and context.

[After THE JUMP: the dirtiest player in the game]

Uche moving up. He did well for himself at the Senior Bowl:

Josh Uche, Edge, Michigan: More coming on Uche next week and a bit further down in this post (double teaser!), but he had an excellent week. “He’s helped himself as much as any player here,” a source told The Athletic after Wednesday’s workout. Speaking during Tuesday’s media day, Uche said he thought he’d surprise people with what he could do in coverage — “I’m quick enough, I’m fast enough to keep up with a lot of guys, and I’m ready to show what I can do” — and then backed that up.

That's the Athletic's Chris Burke, who touched on the local guys at the Senior Bowl before writing an in-depth piece on what the Lions will do. Ben Bredeson also got some positive mention; Patterson, Hudson, and Metellus not so much. Uche was also featured by Dane Brugler:

After I post a mock draft or prospect rankings, I often hear from friends around the league with feedback about what they agree with or where they might disagree. After I posted my latest top-100 board earlier this month, I heard from two scouts who thought I had Uche too high at No. 60 overall, seeing him more as a late third-rounder. However, I received a text from one of those scouts late this week: “You might be right about that #6 at Michigan.” It was predictable that Uche would be a standout in one-on-one’s because of his explosive speed to undress blockers in space. But it was the way he progressed throughout the week dropping into coverage and playing the run that really left a lasting impression. Uche had a money-making week.

Patterson came for some harsh takes, with Bleacher Report's Matt Miller saying it was a surprise he even made the Senior Bowl:

Shea Patterson was the least impressive of the quarterbacks in Mobile for the week and routinely struggled to hit passes accurately both in the practices and games.

Patterson did hit a nice wheel-route throw for an easy run-in touchdown during the game, but he followed it up with a bad misfire overthrow that led to a pick by the South's Kindle Vildor. Patterson, who came to the Senior Bowl with major accuracy questions, continued to struggle throughout the week.

It was a surprise to most analysts when Patterson was invited to Mobile, and the week did not help his case to be drafted.

In a way this is good news: once Gattis settled in he was able to get good production out of an inconsistent quarterback who is barely on NFL radars. In a way not so much: Harbaugh's reputation as a QB whisperer takes a major hit with Patterson's regression.

Add it to the Dad Bravison list. Major Wisconsin schadenfreude last night as Iowa stormed back from a 12 point deficit with a 21-2 run over the last seven minutes. They were significantly aided by this Brad Davison flagrant foul for cup-checking an opponent on a screen:

Davison was called for the same thing last year against Marquette and has gotten away with it many times. And then there was this last year against Minnesota:

Time to suspend the guy. Possibly from the rafters.

Yiiiiiikes. The Davison incident was only the second most cringeworthy thing about the Davison incident thanks to Graham Couch:

There are many many suburban basketball players across the country and only one of them is running around whanging guys in the yinkles. Whatever's wrong with Davison wouldn't be fixed by… the implication black people are more violent? How does this guy have a job again?

BONUS: Former MSU beat guy Joe Rexrode fled to the relative sanity of Nashville and is now free to let his Couch related feelings known:

Ain't the bourbon's fault.

I feel like they write this article every three years. Elvis Grbac was once People's Sexiest Man Alive because someone confused him with Rich Gannon, resulting in a legendary self-negating article ("…his wife Lori, who had the last line: 'His personality makes him sexy.'") and a cottage industry in explaining how this came about. This edition is from the Athletic:

“We were as surprised as anyone else,” Moore said. “But I would suppose the most surprised person was Elvis.”

A red-faced Grbac met with reporters after the magazine hit newsstands and sheepishly said, “There’s guys in that locker room that are 10 times better-looking than I am.” He was, he admitted, “dumbfounded” by the whole thing. He had no idea why or how he’d been picked. When reporters informed Marty Schottenheimer, the Chiefs coach, that his quarterback had been named the sexiest athlete in America, Schottenheimer replied, “Who, Gannon?”

As in Rich Gannon, Grbac’s backup.

I look forward to revisiting this in 2023, the 25-year anniversary of this occurrence.

What on earth. Were people clamoring to hire Bo Pelini?

1) Pay the players, 2) pay the players, 3) don't cheap out on assistants if you're Michigan and the players have not yet been paid.

More on Bordeleau and Brisson. The SBN Predators site has an in-depth scout of Thomas Bordeleau:

In the clip below, you may not see electrifying speed but this is a next-level sequence from Bordeleau, #9 in blue. First, although he doesn’t win the draw outright, he forces his opponent to hand over possession through the tie-up. Bordeleau then immediately jumps the zone as the third forward and provides excellent puck support; he makes a quick move that helps the defender commit to a passing lane then dishes a beautiful backhand pass under the latter’s stick to set up a goal.

I noted in the scouting report above how strong Bordeleau can be with the puck. Despite his smaller frame, he can cut through stick obstructions with astonishing ease when he doesn’t have the jump on his stride.

Meanwhile, Brendan Brisson snuck into the tail end of this first round mock ("dominating the USHL with an impressive blend of quickness, puck skills and quick thinking) and this one ("a high end play driver, with sublime vision in the offensive zone, capable of taking the puck to the net himself, or dishing off creatively for a linemate"), both to Boston.

Brisson and Bordeleau both drew mentions at the Hockey News after an NTDP/USHL all-star game the above clip is taken from:

Thomas Bordeleau, C (NHL CS Rank: 26)
… playmaking center might be the best passer in the country and easily one of the best playmakers in the draft, as shown by a few crafty give-and-go plays Monday. A smart two-way center, Bordeleau has improved his strength over the past few years. He doesn’t get knocked around as often as he did back in midget AAA.

Brendan Brisson, C (NHL CS Rank: 31)
…best player at the World Junior A Challenge … Not a big kid at 5-foot-11, Brisson showcased excellent speed and skill with the puck and had a few nice rushes in the first half of Monday’s battle. It would be great if he had a bit more size, but Brisson has raw talent.

Nice to have players who seem to be moving up as their enrollment date approaches. Seems like the opposite has been far more common over the last several years.

Etc.: Football adds Fresno State to the 2024 schedule. Michigan has a game at Texas that year so expect the third game to be another guarantee. IU QB Peyton Ramsey is in the portal since he'd be behind Michael Penix again this year. Isaiah Todd is (probably) Michigan's first McDonald's AA in 18 years. No I'm not just linking this article because he's driving on CHET CHET CHET CHET in the lead image.

Comments

DutchWolverine

January 28th, 2020 at 3:20 PM ^

Also (honest question here), can a ball be "on target" but still get tipped by a defender?  So it would be considered "catchable", but not technically a drop?  If you throw into tight coverage, it may be on target but still end up as an incompletion, but the WR didn't drop it.  I don't know how they figure these stats exactly.  But if this is the case, the numbers all wouldn't add up to 100% necessarily. 

rice4114

January 28th, 2020 at 3:14 PM ^

“Whatever's wrong with Davison wouldn't be fixed by… the implication black people are more violent? How does this guy have a job again?”

Because its a compliment. Saying thug but in a good light is perfectly fine. Stereotypes and the like that flatter and compliment are perfectly acceptable.

-Society

Kevin14

January 29th, 2020 at 6:36 PM ^

Don't we have one of the highest head coach + assistant pools in the country?  If there was someone we REALLY wanted, I'm sure we'd go get them.  Any implication that we're too cheap to pay assistants probably has more to do with how badly we really wanted them in the first place (no inside knowledge).  

bronxblue

January 28th, 2020 at 3:51 PM ^

I thought the drop rate for his WRs from that report was a bit high, but all year I argued that people (including in the UFR) tended to grade the WRs more favorably/gently, and Patterson more harshly, on some questionable plays.  DPJ in particular had a number of drops and failures to hold onto the ball that I think the UFR tended to view as contested balls but other services may view as expected catches for a guy touted as an elite WR.  

I do agree that their particular rankings do seem to focus on "did you get a finger on it", but at the same time it applies across all teams and there were *shockingly* even less accurate QBs out there than Patterson.

bronxblue

January 28th, 2020 at 6:01 PM ^

Patterson always struck me as a backup NFL guy.  He's not that tall, he doesn't have a rocket arm or amazing athleticism, and the big thing coming out of HS was he was really accurate.  People referred to him as a rich man's Tate Forcier, and that sort of held up.  And at no point did Forcier seem like a guy who could work in the NFL.

My point isn't to argue that Patterson is above blame for the offense's struggles this year; far from it.  He struggled throwing the ball throughout the year, and it probably didn't help he was injured early on and never seemed to get right.  But at the same time, I got so tired of people saying "this NFL-level WR corp is being misused" when, at best, only Collins played like a guy who seemed destined for the NFL.  Black transferred and struggled all year, likely a result of an accumulation of injuries.  DPJ, for all his athleticism, rarely was all that consistent out there and dropped a number of catchable balls.  Complain to me all you want about QB issues but guys in way worse conditions crack 100 yards receiving in a game at least once in his career.  DPJ never rose above "pretty good" at UM, and that inconsistency absolutely hurt the offense as much as Patterson's accuracy issues.  

JPC

January 28th, 2020 at 9:02 PM ^

Patterson always struck me as a backup NFL guy.  He's not that tall, he doesn't have a rocket arm or amazing athleticism, and the big thing coming out of HS was he was really accurate

Backup NFL quarterbacks are really fucking good. Patterson might not even get drafted. 

bronxblue

January 29th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^

I don't know if he'll get drafted; the 3rd-day/UDFA route wouldn't surprise me.  But there are a number of guys who are "backups" in the NFL who probably won't ever see the field but just sort of hang around for a couple of years.  I mean, Christian Hackenberg was drafted in the 2nd round in the NFL and hung around on NFL rosters for a while.  So Patterson could absolutely be a guy who is smart and competent enough to hang around for a year or two at the end of a bench.  That's all I'm saying.

hartattack26

January 28th, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^

Quote from a Bleacher Report reporter?? Seriously Brian? I get the hate from the underwhelming Bama game but the guy threw for 3,000 yards and put up 28 tds with a Top 5 strength of schedule. Name a better season for a Michigan QB not named Denard. 

abertain

January 28th, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^

I mean, the wr in question was at the other end of a lot of almost catches. I think Shea struggled with accuracy, but he I sure as hell remember a lot of throws to the slot that could have been pulled in. Is it possible that the truth lies somewhere in the middle? Ie, qb struggled with accuracy and the wr struggled to bring in catches? 

kurpit

January 28th, 2020 at 5:10 PM ^

You can argue that CBS is incorrectly labeling off-target passes as drops, but it's not like they're skewing the numbers to trash on Michigan. Even if Michigan isn't the singular worst, they are likely among the worst if they used the same criteria when judging all teams.

MFanWM

January 28th, 2020 at 7:34 PM ^

Patterson was off this year.  Even in several games where he was “on” receivers had to adjust, rarely caught passes in stride and many diving catches that also should have had big YAC if he just connected in stride with a receiver.

Gucci Mane

January 28th, 2020 at 8:30 PM ^

Couch sucks. But yes, basketball in the hood is more violent than the YMCA. Punch a guy in the dick and you are gonna get your ass kicked, maybe worse. 

OkemosBlue

January 28th, 2020 at 8:56 PM ^

Not every city playground is full of African-American kids.  Plenty of them are tough non-African-Americans, but we all think African-American don't we?  Being charitable that the commentator was implying that city kids would pay back Davison in kind and as they should until he stopped, it's hard to know whether that's good or bad.  But the racial stereotypes are running wild for sure.

pdgoblue25

January 28th, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^

So white guys don't play on city courts?  I think you're the one who took the leap there.  Let me start by saying I dont know Graham Couch or anything about his history. 

To me all he was saying is Davison is a guy who growing up should have gotten the shit kicked out of him so he would stop doing crap like this, but for some reason he never did.  You're the one who mined racism out of that. 

Kevin14

January 29th, 2020 at 6:39 PM ^

Wasn't Patterson supposed to be a 4-5th round pick last year if he entered the chance?  What a bummer.  I always hate when kids come back to play another year for Michigan and end up hurting their stock.  Last one I can really remember was GR3.  Luckily, he's had a nice career in the league - career season so far this year!  Hopefully Patterson can do the same and make an NFL roster.