OT-Tigers trade Verlander to Astros at 11:59 pm deadline
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Parish left as a free agent at age 30 and played till he was 39. Gibson left as a free agent around that time as well.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:55 AM ^
And Gibson's most famous moment is arguably as a Dodger.
September 1st, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
Arguably? That clip is still shown often every baseball season. It is probably a top 5 most iconic moment in baseball history.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^
I guess growing up in an era when guys like Trammel, Parrish, and Whitaker played all or most of their careers for one team ruined me for spin-the-bottle baseball.
I hate to break it to you, but that "golden" era of sports (Trammell/Whitaker/Parrish/Petry, Zeke/Laimbeer/Joe D, Stevie/Nik/Ozzie, Bird/Magic, Maddux/Glavine, Fouts/Joyner, I could go on all day) is long gone and has been for years. Free agency has "broken" just about every sport. Hell, LeBron is about to leave Cleveland for the SECOND time.
I blame the Millenials.
September 1st, 2017 at 2:17 PM ^
all wanting to get paid what they're worth. Ruin everything.
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September 1st, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^
The Tigers aren't going to be spending money until Verlander's contract is up anyway. They're going to try to move the other veterans too. They aren't going to spend money to restock this team until their prospects start producing.
If the choice was between eating a lot of Verlander's salary or taking lesser prospects, I vote for the former. That's their best possible use of that money now.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
No sense in paying more money than necessary to lose.
But moving Fulmer, as has been recommended by some heads (like Henning) makes no sense to me. He's PART of the rebuild.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
That won't stop sports writers and talking heads trying to get responses. Now maybe in a few years if the rebuild is floundering, you move Fulmer and kick the can down the road. But that's really a worst case scenario for the team.
September 1st, 2017 at 6:04 AM ^
Unconfirmed report said Detroit kicked in $10 million.
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September 1st, 2017 at 12:45 AM ^
No one knows. And I probably read the same things that you did.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:42 AM ^
September 1st, 2017 at 12:55 AM ^
in baseball for the three years from 2011-2013. They didn't win a WS because baseball playoffs are a crapshoot and they ran into an absurdy lucky even year Giants team in 2012 and gave up that f$%#^& grand slam to the Red Sox in 2013.
They had to overpay people to have those stacked rosters and there was always going to be a day of reckoning in which we paid for those down the road. That day came in 2015 and it would have been worth it if we got one of those title we should have had in one of those 3 seasons.
September 1st, 2017 at 1:01 AM ^
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to big contracts that were certainly going to be bad towards the end of the contract in order to lock them down at the time, but I don't think they signed anyone to a bad contract after said guy was still useful, did they?
September 1st, 2017 at 1:14 AM ^
I'll give this one to you, my friend. +1 insightful
September 1st, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
You could argue that V-Mart's current contract was obviously likely to be less than useful. When it's said and done, they're probably gonna get one good season of the four on the contract. Plus he's plugging the DH hole which we could have used to keep Cabrera healthy this year.
But in general I agree with you--the JV and Cabrera deals were not as much of an overpay as everyone makes them out to be.
September 1st, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^
Jim Leyland was a great clubhouse guy, but he made some bonehead tactical decisions. AKA, he was great for a long-haul regular season, but when it came to winning one game in the playoffs, he wasn't the best guy to have around. He often cost us a game right at the worst possible time.
Now, maybe the team isn't even IN that position without him. He was an overall very good manager. But some of his playoff moves just made me scratch my head.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:47 AM ^
Good luck to JV and thanks.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:52 AM ^
If the Tigers really want to, they can really blow this thing up next spring. It's not completely crazy to see the Tigers only bring back 3 everyday position starters: Miggy, Mahtook, McCann.
Kinsler is 35-36, and there's an option/buyout on his deal after this year
Iggy is arbitration eligible. One of these two is likely to be supplanted by Machado.
Castellanos could be traded, as he's a butcher at 3B and isn't likely to be any better in the outfield.
RF and LF are now officially gaping holes. Two of JaCoby Jones, Mike Gerber and Christian Stewart are going to be called upon. One of them is going to hit about .168, while another of the three could be serviceable. One of them will flame out badly.
The rotation, on the other hand, is a train wreck full of flaming dumpsters. Michael Fulmer is your #1 now....but who is your #2? And where is the back end of this rotation? If you want to put Sanchez and Buck Farmer in the rotation for the end of the season, you're going to need to call up about 2-3 more relievers to come in and pitch the 4th inning on a regular basis. And that does nothing to solve next year's major rotation issues.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:56 AM ^
September 1st, 2017 at 1:03 AM ^
We'll always have 2011, JV.
And 2006, the only special year, because after that we all got spoiled and bitchy and forgot about the Decade of Darkness and now we're going to have to remember.
And now I know how Emily Yuen feels.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:30 AM ^
You pulled that out of the misty past.
September 1st, 2017 at 1:14 AM ^
This is a huge bummer. Verlander is obviously not the Cy Young winner he once was but he was still a great pitcher who was let down by a lackluster offense.
Cabrera is currently an albatross for this team finacially and offensively.
I've watched a lot this season and I just can't anymore. JD, Upton, and Verlander were some of the more enjoyable parts of this season, and getting rid of them for a payoff 3 or 5 years down the road is disheartening.
Fulmer and Mahtook are good and building blocks for the future, but I just don't see a reason to watch for a few years now.
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September 1st, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
Cabrera isn't going anywhere and he may have had a bad year but to say he is an albatross offensively shows just how spoiled fans around here have become. It's laughable really. The guy could have 5 more years exactly this bad and he would end up with around 600 home runs, 2000 RBI, and 3300 hits. Those are astronomical numbers that if he retires as a Tiger the organization will get back financially and then some. So the notion that his contract is one that is so troublesome for the Tigers shows me that many don't know much about business. The baseball guys do know this though and that is why he isn't going anywhere.
September 1st, 2017 at 1:21 AM ^
I thoroughly enjoyed some of the fantastic things you did for the Tigers. That said, can we keep Kate Upton??
September 1st, 2017 at 1:59 AM ^
Sucks. Loved Verlander.
September 1st, 2017 at 3:59 AM ^
even more. But JV seemed a class act. Best of luck to them both.
September 1st, 2017 at 2:01 AM ^
This is just so... weird.
I was at Comerica for his first no-hitter, and it perhaps could be the greatest sporting event I've ever seen live. What a player. This is going to be a tough one.
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September 1st, 2017 at 6:01 AM ^
Verlander's been a big part of Tigers success over the last 13 years, and I wish him well with the Astros.
The return is good too - Perez looks like the real deal and the others are solid prospects from a deep system. (Also points up the difference between rental players in Upton and Martinez and someone who can play beyond the balance of the year.)
Hopefully this will be a win-win.
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but man, I'm sad.
September 1st, 2017 at 6:44 AM ^