OT - Grobe - "Unbelievably, I’ve had people tell me they don’t think they dealt with it strongly enough."
"The problems that we’re dealing with at Baylor or have dealt with at Baylor to this point are probably problems at every university in the country,” he said. “I hate to say every one, but I’m guessing most universities are having some of the same issues we’ve had at Baylor. You can make a call as to whether you think Baylor was too strong in the way they dealt with it. Unbelievably, I’ve had people tell me they don’t think they dealt with it strongly enough. But I think going forward, do we want to learn from our past mistakes? We absolutely want to learn from our past mistakes, and we’re doing that.
for morally bankrupt universities.
Butch Jones and Tennesse want in!
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Don't ignore what Tom Izzo is doing. We know he has enabled and "smoothed things over" for Cleaves, Green, Payne and Appling, three of whom have shown they aren't any better citizens as "adults" than they were as "student-athletes" putting their fellow students at risk on campus. Dantonio appears to have cleaned up his act, but Izzo is every bit as bad as Briles and Jones.
Everyone here loves to hammer PSU, UT and Baylor; why not pay more attention to the school closer to home? Is there anyone naive enough to think that, just because Payne and Appling have graduated, Izzo isn't still "erasing" assaults as they happen making sure noboby ever knows how much of a threat some of his players are to women on "his" campus?
To get some proof. I know the thing here is to just scream that everyone besides Michigan is evil, dirty and pays players, BUT HOLY SHIT you just threw up a mountain of conjecture.
I don't know how guys like you sleep at night with all that shit clogging up your psyche.
I thought it was the other way around. I remember reading the police suggested to press charges and the prosecutor declined. Either way, still shady.
You have to be right. The police investigate and make a recommendation, then the DA, or equivalent, decides whether to press charges. Just like they say at the start of Law and Order.
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Or they could just join the SEC. Either way, really.
Ding-dong! Oh, look: SMU of the 80s is here and wants in, too.
These schools might well displace the Ivy grads on Wall Street and K Street. Even psychopaths must admire them.
First thing that came to mind:
Lousy beatniks...
today's comments were a mistake. There is no need to comment about Art Briles, and there's no need to comment about the scandal itself.
"I expect my team to work hard and compete in 2016 and that is what the fans should expect to see too. Anything related to Briles/Starr/et cetera is not my issue and I'm spending 100% of my time focused on doing my job and leading the Baylor Bears."
Penn State fan: "Whatever you do, don't acknowledge institutional failures in addressing sexual assault."
which was 2 days after the NCAA sanctions were announced. O'Brien went through an hour of questioning while saying "Paterno", "Spanier", "NCAA", "Freeh", "Sandusky" and "Emmert" a grand total of zero times.
He did say "sanctions" once. As in "the sanctions are what they are, it's time to get up and going."
I thought most people liked how O'Brien handled things in 2012-2013. But maybe I'm wrong --- what do I know?
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/big10/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2012…
look for anyone outside of Happy Valley to give credit to anyone associated with the program. Maybe he should have told the fan base that they had cheered for pedophiles and assholes for decades.
Surely that would have solved many of our problems.
Yes, sir, may I have another?
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One thing I will give Penn State credit for is there was a level of transparency, at least after the fact. With the public release of the Freeh report, O'Brien didn't need to say anything, and he was starting with a new staff.
At Baylor, nobody except the Board of Regents (and of course the people who put together the Pepper Hamilton Report) know specifics on the multitude of wrong doings. Since even in the the vague printed summary that was released football coaches or coaching staff are mentioned, Grobe does owe an explanation as to how he has vetted his staff and whether the Board of Regents gave him full details about every member of his staff. Grobe has shown no reason to believe he knows any more about what went on with the football team and staff in the past as far as covering up rapes and sexual assaults than you or I, or anyone else. And since he is retaining that staff he does owe an explanation. He can't just say with any credibility that it's a new day and he's only focusing on the present and future.
the best, Johnson and Vanderlinden. Otherwise, I completely agree.
The talent level there is falling fast.
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Ever notice how assholes try to get out of trouble by suggesting everyone else is also doing something wrong?
Basically the motto of this blog?
I mean the "Everyone else is wrong" part...
How many other websites do you go to in order to pick fights? Get a life.
Baylor shouldn't have a football program and they don't deserve one. Get rid of it.
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“I hate to say every one, but I’m guessing most universities are having some of the same issues we’ve had at Baylor. You can make a call as to whether you think Baylor was too strong in the way they dealt with it."
Right. Most universities developed a systemic way within their own administration to protect those accused of sexual assault and to deny victims the chance to speak, even going so far as to shame and psychologically terrorize them for daring to report such crimes. I am sure they like to believe this in Waco.
Wow. The learning curve at Baylor is a flat line.
Rape itself is most definitely an institutional problem at universities across the nation. I believe it is 1 in 4 women who attend college are physically assaulted in some way. So if we were to give him the benifit of the doubt, it is entirely possible that he was making a statement about rape on college campuses nationwide and not necessarily the complicity of the schools themselves.
of view, other to question where he is coming from. He came from retirement after having failed to win consistently in Winston-Salem. I have no idea what the campus experience is like at Wake Forest but I'm guessing it was less tolerant about sexual assault than Baylor, so I'm wondering what comparison he's trying to make, having not coached another program since this issue became one.
I mean if you get hired to coach at a place as the lesser of any other evil because you're mostly available and willing to take a tainted job, how can you comment on what's been done to get you there as a measure of internal control other than to say you plan to point the program under your management in a refreshed direction? Grobe is not too bright for an ACC guy.
Honestly, saying college campuses don't handle sexual assaults as well as they should is a true statement in most cases. But arguing that Baylor of all places has handled it adequately is insane.
was a reasonable replacement for RR.
that Baylor self-imposed.
+1 to you sir and Fuck Penn ST!