CC: which sources are credible/not?
As you are all assuredly aware, there's a TON of noise about our coaching search. So I thought this could be a place where we discuss the relative credibility of sources--especially the ones who make the strongest assertions (e.g. Football Scoop, GH, etc.).
So who do you find credible/not credible and why?
December 8th, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^
I haven't been active that long here so I don't know the full implication of this, but I like it.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^
I think what he's saying is, "Oh God, not this again..."
December 8th, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^
It's simple. Just lip-read what the monkey's saying and you'll have the identity of our new coach.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^
cuz all I'm getting is, "Oh fuck Oh fuck Oh fuck Oh fuck Oh fuck...."
December 8th, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^
I F5 every CC post looking for this from you. It's almost as addicting as F5'ing for the announcement of our next coach.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^
the de facto symbol of our current coaching search.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^
I thought it represented this FB season and part of 2013 as well.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^
Jim Harbaugh.
December 8th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
You sir are correct.
December 8th, 2014 at 2:13 PM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^
Hackett as the only credible source on the day that the new coach is announced. Period. End 'o story.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 10:07 AM ^
Are usually the ones who are least credible.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:07 AM ^
Bert is more credible than Ernie
December 8th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
But that is totally true. I was watching them with my daughter the other day and Bert is a grumpy whiner, but he is honest. Ernie just likes to f with people.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^
I like Brian. He's measured and logical. Doesn't throw shit out just to get people going. Tells what he knows, logically considers others' pov (with links). He's done a good job with this wildfire.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
THE_KNOWLEDGE, just based on track record.
My hope otherwise is that no source is credible, because I'd love for Michigan and its search firm to keep the process under wraps - so long as they produce a great coach. Florida and Nebraska did a pretty good job of keeping it quiet, but they did not undergo particularly long search periods.
If Michigan is able to keep the good info out of the public's awareness during a more protracted search, I view that as evidence of best practices. Loose lips ... .
December 8th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
The ones that are right.
The "non-credible" sources are the ones that are wrong.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
If it didn't come from me, the rumor isn't worth the paper it's written on. -RDT
December 8th, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^
Wow. Didn't know RDT was still around.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:46 AM ^
It.
Is.
Aliiiiiiive.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:50 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
It's quite simple.
Credible:
Jim Hackett
Jim Harbaugh
Not credible (people hearing things from people):
Everyone else.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
Colin Cowherd is obviously not credible. What an idiot.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^
Must be nice to get paid to be a troll.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 12:57 PM ^
been pretty accurate. In examining credibility, you have to judge the purpose of the leak or report. It's a current hot take, lots of clicks.
But the perameters of credibility are based on logic and timing. Most of the reports that have recently surfaced with the most credibility are coming out of Michigan, not the West Coast. Most the reports denying Harbaugh's interest are coming from industry observers, mean NFL industry people.
I thought hiring a head-hunting firm was a very smart move on the part of Hackett because it would aid him in acting behind the scenes with little fanfare and greater disguise
You don't have to be an insider to figure this crap out. The longer Michigan waits, the more likely Harbaugh comes to Ann Arbor. If he were out of the picture, they could move immediately on somebody else. The college season is over. So, contract availability is the primary issue along with remaining games for pro coaches.
I believe this: Harbaugh is somewhat reluctant to leave the NFL, the highest level of football competition. However, he knows that going to Michigan now has to happen or this opportunity may not come again. That is his dilemma along with family-related concerns.
But the key is this, as long as you don't hear Harbaugh say he's out or Michigan changes timeline course, then Harbaugh remains the top choice with first refusal rights. After that, it's a guessing game.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:48 AM ^
Credible: The ones that say what I want to hear
Not Credible: The ones tht don't say what I want to hear.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:26 AM ^
This is the obvious answer. Hell, JH (either one) isn't credible if he says that Harbaugh isn't coming.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
Apparently the University of Michigan just fired a guy named Joke.
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December 8th, 2014 at 10:59 AM ^
As someone who's been a working journalist for 33 years, most of the old rules about sources still apply, even in the digital age.
--Whoever is closest is usually the most reliable. In the case of Harbaugh, the best two sources are the coach and Hackett. And then the working beat reporters for the 49ers. Notice I said "reporters," not "columnists." Who is more trustworthy, Wojo or Sharp?
--Does the rumor or tidbit sound plausible? Read all of this stuff with your BS detector set on "stun." Others have warned about clickbait, and that's bang-on. The journalists who are working today are being driven by their bosses to provide this kind of thing, and it's more important than truth, follow-through, fairness or many other attributes. If your analytics don't look good, you're gone.
--In the blogosphere, where you still go with proximity and plausibility. Then factor in track record, and here's where Brian goes to the head of the class with this old ink-stained wretch. He's well-sourced, fair and careful about what he posts; therefore, what he says carries additional weight.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^
I am not credible.
I am incredible.
Seriously, though, everyone is full of poo except Jim Hackett.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
Even Jim Hackett is occasionally full of poo.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^
it seems pretty obvious that no one knows anything, and we won't know anything until a hire is confirmed by the University and/or the new coach.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^
I accidentaly tuned into Cowherd this morning and he brought up Michigan again and his "sourced" candate.
I get the feeling he is talking about Sean Payton.
December 8th, 2014 at 3:21 PM ^
He's having one down year. They'll storm back to winning 10-13 games next season.
Harbaugh is a more likely candidate than Payton. And I'm a guy who believes there's about 0% chance that Harbaugh comes back.
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December 8th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
There are no credible sources. There are however, a lot of click-whores.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:58 PM ^
...that's who you should trust.
December 8th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
He is prime dumbazz on the hoof. He is what he is. I don't even care if a portion of what he says might be true, because after this is over he will claim he got it mostly right. Listen to him at your peril.
December 8th, 2014 at 3:04 PM ^
"Sources closest to Jim" - not credible
"Former teammates of Harbaugh and former players close to the program" - credible
"NFL sources" - not credible
"Brian" - credible
"Sam" - not credible
"Cowherd" - nevermind. you get the idea.
December 8th, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^
...was that credible? or incredible?
December 8th, 2014 at 5:23 PM ^
Sam's waistline - like mine - is incredible.