Sam Webb on CC Timeline
Sam just said on WTKA that if the search extends past Christmas that we should assume that things with JH are going in a really positive direction. He does not expect that Hackett would wait for Harbaugh past Christmas if things were not progressing. 2.5 weeks until we get a clearer picture I guess.
As for JH and the 49er's firing him, there is no way the Niners would fire him unless he really did something bad between now and the end of the season. There is too much money involved.
I predict Michigan to make its serious push on Jimmy when the Niners are officially eliminated from playoff contention.
Sam was also advocating for Jim Mora if Harbaugh falls through.
I guess this thread can serve as the Monday Jim Harbaugh Thread.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
That's music to my ears. I think he'd be a great fit, both in the short and long terms. Glad to hear at least on insider has Mora as a second choice.
Thanks for posting this.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
The more I hear about Mora (no pun intended) the more I like him. He'd be a good choice beyond JH, imo.
But the frustrating part is having to wait...and that good news with JH gets better the longer we wait...but I hate waiting. But we're told that we should wait if we want Harbaugh.
Wait a second...
December 8th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^
To me it seems like they lose a game or two every year that they should not, often in blowout fashion. I haven't studied them much but that's how it appears to me. And he tried this stunt to "toughen up" the team this year that involved them wearing face paint to a game, which, i'm sorry, was kinda ridiculous. And the discipline on that team is not really what you'd call top notch either.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^
Also, would he use us as a stepping stone back to the NFL.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 12:15 PM ^
Double post
December 8th, 2014 at 12:16 PM ^
a vagabond to date. 3 years in ATL. 2 in Seattle. Would leave UCLA pretty quickly if he left for UM at this point. Not crazy about his "Washington is my dream job" fiasco either. Good coach. Just don't think a long term solution.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^
Yeah. Mora turning down Texas signals to me that he isn't finished with the NFL as he doesn't want to become entrenched anywhere. I definitely think he'd use the Michigan job as a stepping stone to get back into the NFL, which is his ultimate goal.
December 8th, 2014 at 12:53 PM ^
did Bo Schembechler lose a game that he wasn't supposed to lose...the 1976 game to Purdue, the 1977 game to Minnesota, the 1986 game to Minnesota...
While it is a significant factor that USC has been down since the the sanctions, he has beaten USC every year, the last two in blowouts.
I want Harbaugh (like everyone else) but Hackett would get my applause if he got Mora.
December 8th, 2014 at 3:06 PM ^
And that was one of the most frustrating things about Bo's tenure. That, the bowl record and the fact that he never won a national championship. Bo was an amazing coach and did amazing things for the program, but that doesn't mean that just because Bo lost games he shouldn't have it's not an issue that Mora seems to have that penchant.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^
"HE'S NOT A JR." rant
December 8th, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
(Thanks, Yost. One more thing I learned today.)
December 8th, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
I don't care...don't give your kid the same name minus the middle name and expect that no one makes the mistake of calling him Jr. is what I say.
But people get REALLY touchy about it, so I figured I'd make light of it.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:44 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:50 AM ^
Falafel King is in Westwood - I wouldn't leave, either.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:32 AM ^
Jose Bernstein's? Best Kosher Mexican takeout east of the 405.
December 8th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^
Regarding Mora turning down Texas and Washington last year I think the script looked like this:
1. Team was poised for big things with a lot of returning talent, Stanford and Oregon visiting UCLA and, crucially, the final year of Brett Hundley(the most talented UCLA QB since McNown).
2. Lots of momentum from the crushing at the end of the season of both USC and Va. Tech.
3. A fresh promise from the administration to upgrade the facilities and a demonstration of commitment by raising Adrian Klemm's salary and allowing for the hiring of Kennedy Polamalu as an RB coach.
Add in the fact that he had only been at UCLA for two years and I doubt too many coaches would have left.
Now for this year:
1. Hundley's gone and the Stanford and Duck games are on the road which he has to go into with either a freshman Rosen, Neuheisel's kid, or one of two poor man Hundley's that the team recruited at the last minute.
2. UCLA is still on a postage stamp and just dealt with a huge water main break which may mean promised upgrades may never happen or get unacceptably delayed.
3. The batshit wing of the UCLA fanbase is already starting to turn, worrying that Mora may have a ceiling(never mind this ceiling is a better three year run of success than the program has ever had).
4. The reality of UCLA being a basketball school in a USC city may just be getting to him a little bit and he may jump at the chance to go to a football school that can be the big dog program.
Seems like a better situation to leave now.
Personally, I like Mora a lot and I think he'd be a shot in the arm. He turned around a similar situation at UCLA in which a lot of underachieving talent had been stockpiled. He's a good recruiter and has been very good about establishing fan relations.
Here's what I worry about; both Oregon and Stanford have basically been kryptonite for him and given that the Ohio State=Oregon and MSU=Stanford parallel's exist in terms of style of play and program profiles, I wonder if he can turn the rivalries around as quickly as we'd like. That said, there's no doubt that UCLA has been up for the USC game every year and that was a rivalry in which the Bruins had been owned for years(and embarrassingly so, the only close game was the one the Bruins improbably won a few years back).
TL:DR There was a lot to keep him in Westwood last year that I don't think is repeatable this year. Don't necessarily take his turning down Texas and Washington as signs he's looking to stay in Westwood or leave for the NFL.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^
Doing a quick look, Mora has done VERY well on the recruiting trail since he set foot on campus. He has KLS in his class already this year, as well as Josh Rosen (5* QB). Obviously, California has many quality prospects to choose from...and it's not like we have been lacking for good recruits either. But good to see that we could plug someone in and, hopefully, not skip a beat.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
>>there is no way the Niners would fire him unless he really did something bad between now and the end of the season.
Like lose to the Raiders?
December 8th, 2014 at 10:11 AM ^
Losing to the Raiders is bad but I'm thinking Harbaugh exploding in a press conference or commenting on the front office is what causes the Niners to fire him.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^
It's a huge uphill climb for the Niners to get in the playoffs. Ride it out for three more weeks, then try and trade JH and get something in return. Plus buyouts and all that fun stuff. I would not think firing JH is a good business decision.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^
Totally agree. I also think Michigan is going to keep their distance on JH until they are eliminated from playoff contention. Hackett won't want to be a distraction to JH trying to do his job.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:42 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^
I thought the 2 Jim's already met. I was told yesterday by a buddy with AD connections, (yeah I know, everyone has a buddy with insider info these days, (cough cough Sam Webb cough Cowherd cough cough) that Jimmy was offered $5 million a year with a $30 million bonus if he stays 10 years. I have not seen this posted and do not have a name to drop as a reference so take it with a mine of salt. But they are pushing hard already for Jimmy. There is no waiting.
December 8th, 2014 at 2:31 PM ^
it is a really smart way to structure the contract
December 8th, 2014 at 10:28 AM ^
The Niners have to face my Seahawks next week and there is no way they win that game at Clink Stadium. It's a rivalry game, the fans are going to be rabid and the Hawks are rollin.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
Agreed but there's always a chance in a rivalry game.
However, if the 49ers do lose next weekend then I think they'll be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I know they will be in terms of the NFC spot and I think they would be for a wildcard spot too.
It would depend on maybe one or two other results but there is a good chance they are done next weekend. Maybe the 49ers, Michigan, and Harbaugh can make some kind of deal. I don't think really anybody knows currently.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^
There is a good chance that with a 7th loss, they'll be eliminated from the playoffs, no?
With two games to go, they'd be at least three games behind both Seattle and Arizona, locking them out of the division title possibility, as well as one of the wild cards.
Green Bay could put themselves out of reach compared to a 7-loss 49ers' reach with a win tonight vs. Atlanta at home (or at Buffalo next week).
Dallas and Philly play eachother, so the loser won't be able to eliminate the Niners just yet, as SF holds the potential 9-7 tiebreaker (having beat them both), but Detroit could nonethless eliminate the 49ers with a home win over the Vikings.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^
You were going to be bitching either way...whether it be because Hoke wasn't being fired as soon as the OSU game ended or because the search was going to take a month or so.
This is precisely why I said, make some shit up but leak a date..."Hoke will be evaluated on Thursday, December 11th."
Why? Again, make some shit up, "this is the customary timeline (2 weeks) for the head coach and his assistants to hold end of the year individual evaluations with each players and units."
Now everyone knows what's going on and knows the timeline...they may not like it, but you know "okay, the 11th or 12th an annoucement will be made." You also understand that they're not saying they're keeping Hoke, just allowing for general end of the year stuff that he'd have even if he were returning.
Saves the heartache for fans, and more importantly, buys you more time and less media attention.
Fire Hoke this Friday, knowing that you've already started to evaluate your options.
Now you have a shorter window, less impatience, and you're not going to piss these coaches off who have to answer Michigan job questions every day while they're preparing for their seasons to end. You also may get lucky and hold on to more commits with a later/shorter timetable.
You get the bowl seasons started which deflects attention, you get the Christmas holiday which does the same. You could hire Harbaugh on 12/29 and that's just 2 weeks in your transition time, less Pepto and TUMS for everyone.
But I'm not AD, so heartburn is what we all have. Also with a hell of a lot more competance running the seach (I hope).
December 8th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^
nothing wrong with a little Harbaugh to get your morning started.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
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December 8th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^
I've got believe any prospective coach would understand us going for Harbaugh, and not being second choice to him.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^
knows that Harbaugh is our first choice. I don't think our time frame is any secret either. Michigan would have reason to make it clear to any agent they contact. If he's interested in our job, then he's interested under those circumsatnces.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^
why would he come to Michigan? At this point, I am now convinced JH is not coming to Michigan. Mullen will get an extension and we will be left outside looking in at getting a "big time" coach.
Start thinking in terms of a FL or Nebraska type hire.
December 8th, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^
Agreed. He's a great coach who we should be happy with. Only downside to him is he's as big of a flight risk to the NFL as any coach we're considering.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^
If that is actually a realistic back-up plan, than that is a homerun of a backup plan.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
The more I think about it, and take a step back from the Harbaugh crack, Mora is a great option 1B.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
JH needs to go all George Costanza to get fired early. Maybe wear Montana's pants to a meeting and get some jelly doughnut on it. Then drag the super bowl trophies around in the parking lot and then top it off with him running around the field in a body suit with security in pursuit.
December 8th, 2014 at 10:28 AM ^
December 8th, 2014 at 11:07 AM ^
"Nice guy... bit of a close talker"
December 8th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^
Aaronow: Yes. I mean are you actually talking about this, or are we just.
Moss: No, we're just.
Aaronow: We're just "talking" about it.
Moss: We're just speaking about it. (Pause.) As an idea.
Aaronow: As an idea.
Moss: Yes.
Aaronow: We're not actually talking about it. Moss: No.
Aaronow: Talking about it as a.
Moss: No.
Aaronow: As a robbery.
Moss: As a "robbery"?! No.
Aaronow: Well. Well.
Moss: Hey. (Pause.)
Aaronow: So all this, um, you didn't, actually, you didn't actually go talk to Graff.
Moss: Not actually, no. (Pause.)
Aaronow: You didn't?
Moss: No. Not actually.
Aaronow: Did you?
Moss: What did I say?
Aaronow: What did you say?
Moss: Yes. (Pause.) I said, "Not actually." The fuck you care, George? We're just talking.
Aaronow: We are?
Moss: Yes. (Pause.)
Aaronow: Because, because, you know, it's a crime.
Moss: That's right. It's a crime. It is a crime. It's also very safe.
Aaronow: You're actually talking about this?
Moss: That's right. (Pause.)
December 8th, 2014 at 12:53 PM ^
because coffee is for closers. Close the deal first, Hackett, then you can have some coffee.