Who Is Going to Work Tomorrow?
Mates,
Seems like we have a wide variety of occupations and locations. Some would be 'ordered' either by a gov't agency or by their employer to stay home, some are just asked to stay remote, some are laid off, some are going in.
Question: Are you going to work tomorrow, and whether the answer is 'yes' or 'no', why?
Be safe,
XM
I'll be working from home yet again, haven't left my house in over two weeks. Also hoping Saudi and Russia chill out for a minute so my dearly beloved oil prices can rebound.
Saudi Arabia vs. Russia is like watching OSU vs. Sparty.
Seriously, this is my favorite comment on MGoBlog in 5 years. Asteroids all around!
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^
Hey now...
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:33 AM ^
Russia wants to sink our fracking and oil production. $20.00 per barrel will do the trick, then our next president is anti-fracking. Eventually our oil production will drop, then oil prices will then rocket back up by next summer!
Well since we are about to enter another great depression, I'll be working on the ole homestead.
Everyone freaked out over a virus and now we're all fucked for a looong time.
You realize that everyone freaking out about the virus isn’t what’s causing the depression, right? I would argue we didn’t freak out about it soon enough
Is it? Do you know that for sure? That's really easy for anyone to say whose family income and, oh the income of 20 other families doesn't rest on your shoulders.
You are showing your ass here, Brutus. Perhaps your wife’s emergency vet service would be open if our national leaders reacted like Taiwan and not like Italy.
thats the point he’s making.feel free to neg, but bro is making sense
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:10 PM ^
You're going to feel really fucking stupid when you knock on our door because your dog was hit by a car but no one is there to answer.
But it's okay because your username has "Commie" in it and we will feel better if we just whine about capitalism.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:18 PM ^
Dude, go back and re-read. The comments are supportive of your situation, they are critical of dumbass politicians who have been lying for weeks. My “showing your ass comment” is illustrative if your attacking another user with red herrings for making a cogent point about our nation’s leadership failure. That’s really undebatable.
my user name is “Commie _high96” cause I graduated from Community High in 1996. My being a communist is unrelated to that (actually I am a libertarian socialist)
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:25 PM ^
Okay, fair enough, and I'm sorry if I misunderstood your comment. I'm looking at my numbers tonight and really don't know what will happen in the coming weeks. I understand that my specific situation isn't automatically everyone else's, but if people aren't spending money for one reason or another it's going to hurt all of us. Maybe I'm wrong though? I truly have no idea. I just worry about overreacting one way and causing our entire economy to collapse.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^
Brutus, it is fine to be freaked out. I’m freaked out. I’m just starting with being happy my fever this week didn’t put me on a ventilator or a stat on MLive, things suck but they are worse for lots of others.
my mother doesn’t have a spleen so she can’t leave her house for like 6 months. There are always less fortunate people in these times
Dude, pack up your wife and kids and head to VA. I have 8 dogs, 6 cats, three birds, a few dozen chickens, ducks, and geese, and a turtle. I'll keep your wife employed through this shit...
But seriously, I know in VA vets are considered critical infrastructure. My vet will be taking curbside visits only for a while. Meaning that they will come to your car door and take (or give you) your animal, so that you don't have to come inside. This limits contact quite well. Any consideration of that in Michigan?
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:30 PM ^
actually I am a libertarian socialist
That's just a euphemism for social anarchist... which is what gives rise to communism, which interestingly enough "commie" is part of your username (even if it means your HS).
True Libertarians belive that peaceful people should be free to live their lives the way they choose, as long as they don't cause harm to others... and that means the goverment doesn't get to legislate that peace... whether one leans left or right otherwise.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^
Jeez, no. Libertarian Socialism is about pure democracy in all forms. Every corporation, nation society votes and majority rules. True “libertarianism” is a philosophy for children as it Leeds to A corporate dictatorship (think Company store coal mining town).
Uptin Sinclair described the libertarianism you are talking about, Ayn Rand’s books are more like Tolkien.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:06 PM ^
I don't think you understand any of the terms you're using: Libertatrian, Socialism or Democracy
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
Brutus, my daughter and I took her cat to the vet today. They would not allow anyone in the building, they came out to the car, tech takes animals inside, we waited in the car, doctor called us with explanation, then tech brings pet out to car and takes payment. Seems like it worked ok, not quite the same as usual but functional I guess. Could this work for her practice?
I'm really tired of sanctimonious assholes signalling their virtue by saying "everyone should be happy to stay home to stop the spread of the flu". Dicks.
No, just for you I am signaling to start licking NYC subway poles.
im not saying you should be happy. Let’s get the pitchforks and torches and go find Senator Burr!
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^
I'm sick of everyone being so judgmental of others. These are unprecedented times. No one quite knows how to handle any of this. We are all guessing on what's right and doing our best to have some resemblance of a normal life. I think we should all cut everyone else some slack and remember how hard this can be for some. Ultimately everyone has to do what's best for their situation and we don't quite understand how anyone else feels.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:13 PM ^
Exactly. Judgement by certain leaders for political gain is the bigger problem.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
I agree 100%.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^
1) It's not the fucking flu.
2) If I seem judgy it's because people's decisions in this situation can have an impact on other people, up to and including killing them.
Thank you and agreed. Someone else's "I want to have a semblance of normal life over the next few weeks" is what may very well kill my parents. This is very personal -- and there are right ways to respond, and catastrophic ones.
I agree there has to be common sense used. However, my gut reaction is to say that your parents (in your example), have the right to stay in their house and away from everyone. They exercise their choice to be safe, and I exercise my choice to go to work and not fall into financial ruin.
Not really sure there is a good answer for all this. IDK? We’ll just have to pick a path and roll with it as a country.
I think there's a big difference between going to work and enjoying the beach. If you're one of the selfish idiots enjoying the beach, or the cherry blossoms in DC, then you are the fucking idiot that everyone is complaining about that may kill someone else. The guy going to work is doing what he has to do to get by. That is excusable, and nobody will complain about it...
Someone else's "I want to have a semblance of normal life over the next few weeks" is what may very well kill my parents.
No one can kill your parents. If they get infected because they leave the house that's on them. So, again it's up to everyone to make their own choices based on their own values. Respect others. If you want to be safe, stay home. No one can hurt you. If you need to get out to maintain your own mental or physical health, do so as needed. Understand this is very hard for everyone. No one wants to hurt others, but no one also wants to be miserable. Do what you must to protect yourself and keep yourself mentally and physically healthy and be kind to each other.
Well nobody is doing this for the "flu," so we don't have to interrogate this comment any further.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
Everyone has to quarantine and everything is shutting down because we don’t know who has it because we don’t have enough tests. We don’t have enough tests because certain people didn’t think it was important for the first month we knew about it and compared it to the common flu. I am not saying your specific situation doesn’t suck because I understand a lot of people’s lives are going to suck during a depression, but it isn’t because people freaked out.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^
B4L has it 100%. You can hem and haw about it, but you grandkids are going to read about how badly our leaders cratered this, much like the Iraq war.
Who’s being “judgmental” here?
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^
So when we banned flights from China around 2/1 we were moving too slow huh? Not saying Trump is perfect, dude definitely isn’t even close. Tired of the political people sitting on the sidelines playing Monday morning QB. He has done some good things and some bad. Also, he’s one dude. State and House impact decisions as well.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^
yeah, he’s the one dude lying to the country for 6 weeks. I’m not a democrat, so it is 6-1, 1/2 Dozen situation, but you really can’t sound like a serious educated person and defend the actions of the executive.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:59 PM ^
Dude, don't defend him. He fucked this up royally from the beginning. More concerned about the stock market than human lives.
We had months to prepare and did jack shit.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:11 PM ^
which 'months' are you referring to? if you assail him, then nearly every other executive of any other nation or any of our separate states deserves the same abuse if there is any objectivity in the monday morning QB'ing.
and at the end of january when he said to ban flights from china what was the reaction? did he get a lot of support for that, or was he called all manner of names?
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
China lied and misinformed for 3 months, along with not allowing our doctors in, so that's the first and most damaging political move to exacerbate the situation.
In early January, Trump and republican leadership, along with the "Dear Leader" echo chamber of Faux News called it a "Hoax" and the Democrats creating a crisis for political gain. Go back and watch interviews of Trump and clips from sycophants like Hannity and compare what they said then to now.
Sorry but anyone who thinks Trump called the virus a hoax is lacking integrity with the truth or just plain gullible. He said the Democrats would use it as a “hoax” to criticize him which has proven true. He was called xenophobic for closing travel to China which absolutely saved lives and slowed the spread. Shutting down Europe also helped albeit late.
Clearly he misjudged the threat as did most everyone in the world. Our political leaders on both sides right now are so divided it’s gotten in the way of getting results. It’s shameful.
China is guilty. People have their bias.
edit.
XM - agree 100%. But it’s pointless trying to speak sense to some people. As bad as Fix news is, MSNBC/CNN are just as bad. I haven’t watched news for anything besides weather for a few years. Made a point in watching both “sides” recently to try and get a grip on reality...
I’ve given up. Instead I look at numbers and draw my own conclusions. And when I say numbers I mean ALL OF the numbers - not just NEW CASES or DEATH TOTAL.
Some irrefutable facts are the death rate is down to around 1% and the number of new cases is growing at a rate consistent with the testing increase.
https://covidtracking.com/data/
There were people on this blog predicting that once people started dying it would double on a daily basis. If that were true we’d be over 55,000 dead in the USA.
My biggest worry is people who think ZERO deaths is the target. The governor of NY said that, while he realized it was going to devestate the economy and ruin lives, if it saved one life it would be worth it. I really hope he didn’t mean that.
I also wonder if anyone on this blog agrees with that position?
I do agree. Curve flattening makes sense to me (i.e. let's not swamp the hospitals). Trying, at all costs, to prevent any fatalities does not (yes, this is Cuomo's stated goal).
I am looking for some sign of cost:benefit thinking in the politicians' decision-making. Somewhat along the lines of what presently occurs with the flu in the US. Apparently, the benefit of a robust US economy is worth the cost of ~35K lives lost to the flu each year. We could greatly reduce the spread of the flu if we all stayed 6' away from each other - or didn't go in to work. But, we've decided it isn't worth the "cost".
Bringing the global economy to a abrupt, grinding halt, to me, seems politically purposeful.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:53 PM ^
You forgot the "Obama didn't stop flights during the Swine Flu" part of your talking points.
The problem isn’t that he banned flights from China. That would have been a good start if he followed it up with quite literally anything other than “this is similar to a common flu and most people will be fine and some people will even get better while going to work.” Banning flights-good. Everything following to downplay how serious it is-the reason everyone has to quarantine and the stock market crashed and the reason we will probably go into a recession, etc... Acting as though banning flights is the only thing Trump needed to do is why we are where we are at today
You don't think we should criticize a president who until 2 weeks ago was still calling a deadly coming pandemic a hoax and, instead of mobilizing tests and medical gear, assured the country that everything was "under control" and would "just disappear like magic?" The country is still woefully short on supplies and many Americans, heeding Trump's advice, still aren't taking this seriously. The China flight restriction was the one reasonable thing he did among countless idiotic ones. He was warned and warned months ago -- by the CDC, by his own intelligence services. But he just kept wishing it away because he feared it would hurt his political numbers.
And national emergencies are the domain of the federal government, not state governments. That's why we have FEMA etc. Now, by trying to fob everything off on states, Trump is forcing individual states to bid against each other for supplies -- jacking up prices and leaving the poor states fucked. That's now how it's supposed to fucking work!
be intellectually and factually honest in your arguments. he said the dems would use it as a hoax, not that the issue was a hoax.
and no leader anywhere sounds the panic button - first word in leadership. any leader that flipped out in public would be rightfully shamed.
March 23rd, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^
There's a big, huge difference between 'flipping out' and taking something seriously. He still doesn't take it seriously.
The quotes above are real, as is all of the other information in that post. If you want to focus only on the "hoax" quote - then be sure to include that he called the whole thing a hoax. He compared a virus that had already killed thousands to a hoax identifiable with foreign election interference. What person with a sound brain would do such a thing?
But at least admit that everything else in that post is 100% accurate. You should stop trying to defend the indefensible.
You cant reason with them, either they will claim that this strategy worked and humanity barely survived because of it or that we didnt go far enough. Next time we will institute draconian measures because people are dying.
Oh and everyone still gets sick anyway, now we just do it with an economic depression.
In other news 150,000 die today globally because of stuff that ain't coronavirus...where is the alarm, the compassion, the humanity?
Bingo. Same amount of people are going to get the Kung Flu whether the curve is flattened or not. You can't even quantify how many lives will be saved by said flattening, or if it will even flatten. If the cowards are right and this is the most deadly, infectious thing known to man, there is no way any of these measures will work at all. We can, however, quantify the economic catastrophe this will cause by hiding behind our sofas. How far along the safety vs jobs are good line do you want to fall on?
And yes, I used Kung Flu. Deal with it Mad Hatter. You had months to prepare.
March 23rd, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^
I'm fine and well prepared. I don't have to leave my house for months. And I don't give a fuck what you call it. Call it slant eye virus if it makes you feel better.
Cunt.
March 23rd, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^
Man, I love this guy.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^
Hatter that gave me a full out loud belly laugh. Let’s try and keep up that level of civility please.