Jabrill traded to NYG for Beckham jr
Per Adam schefter.
God damn!
[edit: mgowill] Title somewhat misleading.
Browns get Beckham.
Giants get Cleveland’s 1st round pick (No. 17 overall), the second 3rd round pick this year and Jabrill Peppers.
The trade cannot be made final until Wed. at 4 p.m. ET.
NYG also receives two draft picks this year. Good for Peppers to get out of Ohio.
A first and Brown's 2nd third round pick
And to think he's going to such a well managed organization as the New York Giants!
Although, as a long-time Giants fan, I’m not thrilled with the deal, I’m also a relatively recent Michigan Wolverines fan. The Giants may be testing the theory of whether a decent college football team with a veteran quarterback and a superstar running back could compete against NFL teams this coming season.
But I’m thinking – what if . . .(a) the Giants were to trade the sixth pick in the 2019 draft to the Raiders for the Raiders’ first-round picks at 24 and 27 and their first round pick in 2020 and an extra pick in 2021, so the Raiders could take Dwayne Haskins to back up Derek Carr with the sixth pick AND (b) the Giants then were to take Rashan Gary with the 17th pick they got from Cleveland, Devin Bush, Jr. with the 24th pick they got from Oakland, a good wide receiver with the 27th pick they got from Oakland, Chase Winovich with the 95th pick they got from Cleveland and David Long with one of their picks in the fifth round (142 and 143), IF those players still were available at those spots?
Looking to the future, I might be okay with a Giants defense that included Rashan Gary, Chase Winovich, Devin Bush, Jr., Jabrill Peppers and David Long.
yeah thank god he doesn’t have to play with Baker, Chubb, Hunt, Laundry, Garret, I could keep going but it would be pointless. I don’t get the whole “good thing he’s not playing in Ohio Anymore.” Argument. The browns will be a playoff team this year while the giants won’t win more than 4 games for the foreseeable future.
I think BB is disparaging the state of Ohio, not the state of the Cleveland Browns football team.
This made me laugh
Misleading headline. OBJ traded to the Browns for a 1st rounder, 3rd rounder, and Peppers. Never thought I'd say it, but sucks for Peppers to be going from Cleveland to NYG. Those teams have really traded places in the league hierarchy.
Browns definitely have been making win now moves. Giants are basically going nowhere. As a culture fit though, I'm happy that Peppers got out of Ohio. Ohio fans seem to really dislike Peppers for no particular reason.
“No particular reason”
On the other hand, I hate Chris Spielman as a Buckeye, I love him as a Lion. Sometimes you have to get over the past.
Don't be a fan of an nfl team (especially the lions) and you can hate on every Ohio state player even after they're done playing school. Win win.
Unless they hit a woman or do really scummy shit, I don't even really wanna bother hating any Ohio State players in the NFL. I'm happy when they secure the bag, they're still really young men achieving a life long goal. I have plenty of time to hate them in the 36-60 months they live in Columbus.
Unless they hit a woman or do really scummy shit, I don't even really wanna bother hating any Ohio State players in the NFL. I'm happy when they secure the bag, they're still really young men achieving a life long goal. I have plenty of time to hate them in the 36-60 months they live in Columbus.
Spielman is a bad example of that, because he is literally the ONLY example of an Ohio State alumnus who Michigan fans admire. I honestly can't think of anyone else, as far as CFB/MBB players who went on to pro Detroit teams or any other teams.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:30 PM ^
Tom Skladany was a Pro Bowl punter for the Lions in the late seventies.
March 13th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
You expect us to believe that "Skladany" is a real name?
March 13th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
Fair point.
I was a Spielman fan for awhile as a kid before I realized he was an OSU alum.
As an adult, I read his book.
All the evidence out there right now suggests the guy is a hell of a human being. I'm a fan.
Alumnus: Jesse Owens, but wrong sport.
Specifically CFB/MBB: ?
If he produced more, they would’ve gotten over it.
But he really hasn’t lived up to a first round billing in his two years with the league.
"But he really hasn’t lived up to a first round billing in his two years with the league."
Yep. And I think anyone who looks at his college results without maize-colored glasses would say the same thing about those partial years.
Strongly disagree. He started off slow on an 0-16 team but most of last season showed why he was a first-rounder. NYG just got themselves a difference maker and potential D/ST cornerstone here.
I'd say he played extremely well in his 2016 campaign. Lack of INTs aside, he did just about everything else you could've asked him to do.
My lone frustration with him wasn't even really his fault. He was woefully mis-used on offense. Anytime he got on the field, you knew one of two things was going to happen. Jabrill gets a direct snap and runs left, or Jabrill gets a direct snap and runs right. By the end of the season, he was so easy to gameplan for because Harbaugh/Drevno refused to utilize him in any other way.
No misdirections, screens, zone reads, jet sweeps, lining him up in the backfield as a RB. Even just the perceived threat of him touching the ball was enough to keep defenses off-balance. But teams like OSU had no reason to fear him on offense because they knew exactly what he was going to do when he got the ball.
March 13th, 2019 at 11:47 AM ^
Yup. Jabrill ran into a stacked box all year. In 2015 we actually put him in space and that really opened things up for our offense. Why we abandoned that is still baffling to me.
March 13th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
He looked lost during his rookie season because his DC, Gregg Williams, had him line up as a deep safety 20 yards off the line. As we know, Peppers is much more valuable in the box as a tackler and blitzer.
Beat it, troll
March 12th, 2019 at 11:52 PM ^
Fuck Braylon.
I definitely rushed my thread title. Made you click though!!
Good god you whiny bitch. Misleading headline complaint? Were you tricked into clicking on a post that you weren’t interested in reading and commenting on? Fucking pussies everywhere.
Good god you whiny bitch. Misleading headline complaint? Were you tricked into clicking on a post that you weren’t interested in reading and commenting on? Fucking pussies everywhere.
Why god damn? Browns fan? Hate the Giants? I need to know more.
Moreso a reaction to the immense news. Crazy start to the football offseason
That’s horrible for Pepper! Dude was building something in Cleveland and they dumped his ass! To bad for him
March 13th, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^
It's so bad that he's been knocked down to a singular Pepper.
Browns just got more interesting for next season.
He's a NJ guy. I'm sure he'd rather play in a major market closer to home, than be stuck in Shithole Ohio.
He better knock off that gun bullshit though, since NY doesn't mess around.
Just ask Plexico...
"First of all, you people probably don't know anyone who’s been shot. I, however, know lots of people who’ve been shot. I know lots of people who claim they want to shoot me, and some of those people are technically my friends. So that’s why I carry a gun.
Second, you people probably trust the government, and you probably trust it because your personal experience with law enforcement has been positive. I’ve had the opposite experience all my life. I’m afraid of the government. I’m afraid of the world, and you can’t give me one valid reason why I shouldn’t be. So that’s why I did not apply for a gun license.
Third, I shot myself in the leg, which is both painful and humiliating. What else do I need to go through in order to satiate your desire to see me chastised? The penalty for carrying an unlicensed weapon is insane. How can carrying an unlicensed firearm be worse than firing a licensed one? I broke the law, but the law I broke is a bad law. Would you be satisfied if the penalty for unlawful gun possession was getting shot in the leg? Because that already fucking happened!" - Plax
March 12th, 2019 at 10:16 PM ^
Yep - Meadowlands Stadium is probably only 15 miles from his hometown of a East Orange. Probably a childhood dream to play there.
Peppers showed very well this year, but Cleveland has some assets on the back end and OBJ is a real difference-maker.
A trade like this is always risky. And Cleveland’s locker room might be a bit of a tinderbox, especially with the ownership being what it is.
But Baker looks like he’s for real, and his fiery personality could be perfect for OBJ if they can mesh well on the field.
Exciting time to be a Browns fan.
Haven't heard those words since, well, I'm too young to have seen Jim Brown play.
The Browns were a force in the late 80s, this narrative is so fucking stupid.
A force that always found a way to fuck up and not actually win anything.
So...not much of a force.
If going to the AFC championship game 3 out of 4 years and having records like 12-4 is "not much of a force" in your mind what is?
Those Browns are the Ravens
These Browns are an expansion team that adopted the old history of the former team. But all of what they built is actually in Baltimore.
Someone didn't like this comment, but you're completely right.
Seems like an example of the ship of Theseus thought experiment.