Sam Webb out at 247?
So, Sam Webb hasnt posted on wolverine247 since Saturday and mentions of him or his articles are being immediately deleted from the board. Anyone know anything about this? Did Lorenz win the power struggle or did Rivals pony up to get the best man in the biz? It will be interesting...
September 6th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
Don’t know, but I like Sam.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:32 PM ^
Sam is good but he’s no Mineral King.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
He's not even mineral king's backup.
September 7th, 2018 at 1:29 AM ^
I'm hoping MK does not need a backup this season.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:14 PM ^
Has anyone ever seen Sam and Mineral King in the same room? JUST ASKING QUESTIONS
September 7th, 2018 at 1:36 AM ^
I’m picking up what you’re putting down......
Sam is Shea.
boom!!!! Mission accomplished
September 7th, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^
here's a reddit gold for that one.
related: i hope we keep sam on the beat regardless of who writes his paycheck. dude is plugged in.
also related: if he's indeed out, maybe it's time for BRIAN to PONY UP and GET SAM ON MGOBLOG
September 7th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
or skypanther
September 6th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^
I didnt know there was a power struggle between sam and steve. Weird.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
Apparently there has been bad blood between the two for years and it led to a physical altercation in South Bend over the weekend. Kirk Gibson had to do the Recruiting Roundup.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^
Are you kidding?
September 6th, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
of course he's kidding. . .
It was Rick Leach
September 7th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
Like they would ever let a Sparty do the recuiting round up......It was Barry Larkin.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
This is a reference to Mario and Rod from FSD/Tigers
September 7th, 2018 at 8:18 AM ^
Gibby put both of them to sleep by just talking...
September 8th, 2018 at 4:32 PM ^
I've never laughed so hard at a random internet comment in my life. 5 minutes and I'm still dying here.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^
He posted on Sunday. One of the mods today said he was helping him put together articles, Sam was just in Oklahoma to interview Daxton Hill last week and then went straight to the game. Seems unlikely that he'd be out.
September 7th, 2018 at 7:53 AM ^
Yeah at some point this week he was talking about articles.
He's talking about articles on the air right now.
I'm sure Don from Ann Arbor will call in to get to the bottom of this.
September 7th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^
Anyone else find it weird that there is a budget to fly Sam out to Oklahoma, or elsewhere, to interview a high school kid that might come to Michigan? I'm sure there's much better content gathered in person, but who is quantifying the value of getting these hot quotes from teenagers?
The kid must know this Ann Arbor radio guy flew all the way down there and back up north just to talk to him. And we wonder why kids like Aubrey Solomon have these ego's
September 6th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^
Heard that Sam had issues with how 247 let bucknuts shame Courtney Smith and how Steve Wiltfong more or less tweeted in support of domestic violence. Don't blame the guy.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:49 PM ^
That one OSU writer that has a history of writing some sexist and misogynistic shit should have been gone, easily. If it was a newspaper, he’d have been gone in a heartbeat. I think it was Dave Biddle.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^
It was fun when Ace owned Biddle on Twitter
September 7th, 2018 at 4:08 AM ^
Please share
September 7th, 2018 at 9:45 AM ^
https://twitter.com/AceAnbender/status/1032477060239974400
Does anyone know how to embed the tweet directly? I would like to learn that skill on the new site.
September 7th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
After clicking the <>Source button, type <oembed> then the link to the tweet (not the embed link), then </oembed>.
Like this:
<oembed>https://twitter.com/AceAnbender/status/1032477060239974400</oembed>
September 7th, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^
didn't your site scrub a thread containing some appallingly sexist comments by you and one of your writers recently or was that another Bucknuts? do you disclose that when discussing the Meyer situation? it's far more relevant. https://t.co/Txz8UyDFiq
— Ace Anbender (@AceAnbender) August 23, 2018
September 7th, 2018 at 6:07 AM ^
Anyone know which Lorenz tweet this is about?
September 7th, 2018 at 6:47 AM ^
Steve Wiltfong, not Lorenz. I did the same thing at first. Took like three times before my brain stopped inserting "Lorenz" after "Steve" and I read the whole name.
September 7th, 2018 at 9:10 AM ^
My mistake. I saw Lorenz in the OP and assumed same Steve. You’re right, I stopped reading after Steve.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:41 PM ^
The last year or two I’ve felt that Sam has gotten too close to the inner coaching circle to a point where his relationships impact his ability to be critical of the team. Prior to joining with 247, the preseason Scout fluff the last couple years has been on overdrive. It creates overly high expectations from the fan base that shits themselves when they realize it was just propaganda. I am uncertain to how this gets remedied. Rivals and ESPN are much worse so you keep handing over that $10 a month.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:49 PM ^
Jon Jansen saying how improved the O Line is was much worse than anything I heard from Sam. He had me hook, line, and sinker.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^
I mean, they were definitely improved vs last year. Not exactly a high bar to beat though.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:59 PM ^
So Runyan was better than Cole... got it
September 6th, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^
Yes because one position totally defines the entirety of the overall performance of the entire OL!! Genius!
September 6th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
I think they are better at 3 positions this year and will soon be better at 4 once Ruiz gets another game or 2 under his belt. The big question is can that overcome the downgrade at LT.
Regarding RT, last year the coaches could scheme around JBB. They don’t have that luxury this season. OTOH, our opponents are going to attack our LT this season, so maybe JBB won’t have to deal with their best rushers so often.
Can Saturday just get here already, please?
September 6th, 2018 at 10:14 PM ^
Runyan isn’t the line...
September 6th, 2018 at 10:30 PM ^
The line is only as strong as its weakest link, or lineman in this case. This time last year Nolan Ulizio was the face of the horrible OL, this year it is John Runyan.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:55 PM ^
Here is my (hot?) Takes
1. Tomorrows UFR shows runyan was not that bad (worse OT performance ever ... nope)
2. Hy end of the year runyan is Cole lite.
You heard it hear first !
September 6th, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
Why don't you tape it
September 7th, 2018 at 9:46 AM ^
I was going to say that would be a pleasant surprise, but it would actually be a huge surprise bordering on miraculous. I'm all for that happening. I feel bad for Runyan; he's a good athlete and I assume a Michigan Man through and through, and he is playing out of position. I'm rooting for the guy.
September 6th, 2018 at 11:21 PM ^
Well if you want a cold dose of reality, listen to Doug Skene's breakdown from Saturday's game at rivals (not paywalled, either). Do NOT, however, listen to it if you are easily depressed or want to stay out of the BPONE.
September 7th, 2018 at 12:49 AM ^
Skene is 100% correct. I will look for his insight in the future. Thanks for the heads up.
September 7th, 2018 at 6:47 AM ^
Doug Skene is the best of all the "experts". I subscribe to both rivals & 247/scout. No one comes close to his knowledge, critical analysis, & unvarnished truth. Example: after ND he is the only one noting deficiencies at right guard.
September 7th, 2018 at 7:22 AM ^
Huh.
I paid $10 for 5 months.
Remind me to cancel In December!!
September 7th, 2018 at 9:04 AM ^
I didn't get that feeling from Sam, but I did feel that it was put out there by the program. Between Runyan and Dwumfor hype, basically, I'm in the spot now where I think that there is no way I can trust whatever comes out of Schembechler hall. It's either all North Korean type propaganda 'John Runyan played golf and got a hole in one on every hole!' or they are seeing him play well in practice and then poorly on game day.
I still believe in the coaching staff. They are all good. But I think the situation prior to them coming in was worse, we paid through the nose for a couple of coaching changes in terms of recruiting cost, and the current staff had a longer time to get up to speed in terms of O line recruiting than I would have hoped.
My future would be to keep Harbaugh and let him work it out.
But at this point I see like a 7-8 win season with two more losses to the rivals. Maybe we beat MSU, and that could help, but I don't know.
Unless we can start blocking gap again and actually be good enough at it to make our offense have a pulse we are in a shit storm. Too bad, kind of a waste of a good defense.
September 7th, 2018 at 9:36 AM ^
Sam has always been a shill for the program, its how he gets his inside info. But it is still valuable information as long as you recognize that everything he reports is exactly what the coaches and program want out in the world. And his recruiting inside info is a good sense of how the coaches think, though he parrots the under the radar loved him the whole time bullshit about lower rated recruits we get after whiffing on higher rated ones.
And the reality is the oline was not that much improved. Runyan was clearly worse than Cole, Ruiz missed a bunch of line calls and stunts and Onwenu had a mediocre game which is exactly what he did last year and was getting pushed in fall practice.
September 7th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
“Michigan feels good about where they stand with him” was a death sentence from Sam with regards to Michigan’s chances with a recruit the past couple years.
September 6th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^
If that's the only evidence you have then I doubt it. Sam usually goes for long periods without posting. He would have announced it if he were gone. Also his Twitter bio hasn't changed.
September 6th, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^
I heard Rod Allen choked him.