4* OL Riley Norman commits to Michigan State for track, not playing football
Riley Norman, a 4 star OL out of Cadillac, MI, just committed to Michigan State, but to do shotput, not play football. He was a consensus 4 star recruit, and part of the Rivals Top 250. It had rumored for a while that he was not planning on playing football in college, but had not been confirmed until now. He was considered to be a heavy MSU lean, so him going to MSU is no suprise.
If he ever decided to play football at MSU, he would not be allowed to walk-on and use the track scholarship. The scholarship would be shifted over to football, and count against MSU's 85 scholarship limit.
Edit: http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-R…
http://247sports.com/Player/Riley-Norman-13717
http://michiganstate.scout.com/a.z?s=175&p=8&c=1&nid=5680725
It's Norman, not Normal mods. Thanks for incorrectly editting my OP.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:07 PM ^
I did some digging for you and got this from the original post:
If he ever decided to play football at MSU, he would not be allowed to walk-on and use the track scholarship. The scholarship would be shifted over to football, and count against MSU's 85 scholarship limit.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^
He also quit his HS football team, so I think he's done for good.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:40 PM ^
"When there's a two sport athlete, the scholarship is given to the higher grossing sport money wise, which is football over track."
Not that I doubt you or anything, but where exactly does it say that? I wasn't aware of that rule.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:58 PM ^
Rules for multi-sport athletes
The NCAA also has rules specifying the sport in which multi-sport athletes are to be counted, with the basic rules being:[18]
- Anyone who participates in football is counted in that sport, even if he does not receive financial aid from the football program. An exception exists for players at non-scholarship FCS programs who receive aid in another sport.[19]
- Participants in basketball are counted in that sport, unless they also play football.
- Participants in men's ice hockey are counted in that sport, unless they also play football or basketball.
- Participants in both men's swimming and diving and men's water polo are counted in swimming and diving, unless they count in football or basketball.
- Participants in women's volleyball are counted in that sport unless they also play basketball.
- All other multi-sport athletes are counted in whichever sport the school chooses
So I actually may have mispoken by saying it goes to the highest grossing sport in all circumstances as the last bullet point says the schools may choose in some instances, but in this and most other instances that's how it works.
August 15th, 2012 at 10:06 PM ^
Not sure where you are getting your info, but he didn't quit his HS team.
August 15th, 2012 at 10:45 PM ^
Tweet directed towards Josh Helmholdt;
@JoshHelmholdt I coach lacrosse in Cadillac and he quit the team (freak athlete) to focus fully on throwing. This has been expected.
August 15th, 2012 at 10:49 PM ^
I take that as he quit lacrosse, not football.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^
Not as a walkon, but if there is room the scholarship can move over to football.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:10 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:30 PM ^
Why you no like wet towels?
August 16th, 2012 at 10:00 AM ^
Yes, I'd much rather play for a man with eloquence and intelligence.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^
This seems cool to me. I respect kids who like the old classics like discus and shot. If that's your bag, then climb into it right? edit: unless it's fantasy gaming. No one can do that and be right.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:18 PM ^
What do you mean?
August 15th, 2012 at 9:59 PM ^
whatever
August 15th, 2012 at 9:17 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:26 PM ^
Why would he go to football camps and compete when he hasn't loved football in some time?
August 15th, 2012 at 9:29 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:42 PM ^
Teams don't usually waste their time recruiting and offering a kid who has no interest in them. If Norman was to play football, he was going to do it at MSU. Also he's a quiet kid you never gave interviews, and the kids are the ones that report scholarships, so its possible he just never reported any.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:22 PM ^
Oh shit, my bad on the thread edit. Mea culpa.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:34 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:37 PM ^
that this is a play on the football national recruiting meme, but the kid is an in-state kid. Surprised they took him considering how close that is to EL
August 15th, 2012 at 9:40 PM ^
Total troll move bro. Nice one.
August 15th, 2012 at 9:54 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 9:57 PM ^
Since it doesnt matter to us at all... lets give a congrats to Mr. Norman for his track committment... and lets laugh at the Sparties who are crying
August 15th, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^
Norman.....that name rings a bell. Isn't his brother a former player from a recent team of theirs?
August 15th, 2012 at 10:26 PM ^
Three time Olympian Reese Hoffa threw 63' 9.5" as a senior in high school. In London he won a bronze medal to go along with his two world championships. He is sponsored by Nike, gets to travel the world looking at hot track chicks and probably does OK for himself financially. His "dream is to compete in a bear suit, being brought onto the track in a cage." which suddenly makes him one of my favorite athletes.
Riley Norman has a PB of 61'2.5" set as a junior last year. The kid obviously has talent and with a lot of hard work and what not could make it to an Olympics or two as well. When I ran in circles for the Maize and Blue it appeared to me that the weight throwers certainly had to work hard but they could have a pretty normal college life, probably much more so than a football player. Also, I never heard of one getting concussed and a few got a free education. Good luck to the kid (except when he competes against UofM of course).
August 15th, 2012 at 11:40 PM ^
August 15th, 2012 at 11:16 PM ^
There is always the risk of being impaled by a stray javelin, but otherwise, track and field has gotta be healthier.
More seriously, thanks for the comparison betweenNorman and Hoffa. Do you (or anyone else) know how much good shot putters tend to improve in a year? In other words, how likely is it he goes fro, just over 61 to nearly 64 this coming year?
August 15th, 2012 at 11:29 PM ^
I've never done, nor do i follow shot put, but what i've heard is that with more training and technique coaching that most people get better as they get older.
August 15th, 2012 at 11:49 PM ^
August 16th, 2012 at 12:21 AM ^
Here was I expecting jabs at State's inability to reel in linemen for whatever reasons. Not slamming a high school kid for choosing shot put over football.
Although I guess it's not the worst for MSU. Since Dantonio is hiding in the weeds, all the linemen thad didn't commit obviously don't have the needed pad level to see him, right?
August 16th, 2012 at 10:26 AM ^
Many of us play sports when we are younger for the fun of it and for the love of the game. High School sports become more serious depending on your school or conference. College it becomes a job regardless if you are DI or DIII. I would see all my friends having fun when I had to go to practice and study hall. I wanted to have fun in college and never loved baseball, so I quit the college team. I regret it more now (20 years later), but I still never wanted baseball to be my life. The regret though is more in the contacts you earn by being on the team and being a part of the athletic program. Norman will still get all those things while doing the sport he loves.
August 16th, 2012 at 11:44 AM ^
/cool starry brah