Interesting RUMOR on Paul Finebaum involving Michigan
Yesterday on Paul Finebaum, an interesting rumor ws talked about, involving Michigan. It was stated, that Michigan coaches and Nick Saban have had discussions about Urban Meyer, and how to prepare for him. They have also made plans to meet this off season, and go over strategy. A lot of this coincides with the meeting next fall as well, but there's a mutual dislike between Saban and Meyer. I seem to recall hearing this from another source about a week ago, but can't remember where. The caller who reported this, is apparently a regular caller, who has broke quite a few stories. If this is true, it's quite interesting, and goes to show you how much the SEC dislikes Urban Meyer.
Disclaimer: I am NOT stating this as fact, just thought it was a rumor that the community would be interested in. I take every rumor I hear from SEC country with a grain of salt, as should the rest of you.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
Seeing as how we're going to be playing against Saban first in 2013 I'd be happier if the coaches sat down with Meyer to learn how to game plan against Bama.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^
Meh, I'd rather beat Ohio State than Alabama. Alabama beats us and I'll just blame oversigning. Ohio State beats us and I'll be so upset that it will bother me daily for months.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:58 PM ^
Id rather beat Ohio too, but we'll have all next year to prepare for them, watching every game they play, but our new look front 7 will be lining up against Alabama right out of the gate next year so Saban concerns me more.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^
We'd just call Les Miles for that. He's still friendly with Michigan I hope.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
As long as we can keep it secret this time.
/3&out
December 21st, 2011 at 4:39 PM ^
Last I checked Bill Martin was not the AD any longer
December 21st, 2011 at 5:09 PM ^
Uncle Les may not be willing to help if we can't offer him a snack.
December 21st, 2011 at 6:18 PM ^
Saban is to defense as Rodriguez/Meyer are to offense. I have friends throughout the college coaching ranks that all study his philosophies. Most, if not all, have something in their gameplans that is Sabanesque. Any amount of time picking Saban's brain is time well spent. As a defensive coordinator myself, I would kill to be a fly on the wall of that film room. Mattison/Saban = the Aristotle/Plato for meatheads.
December 21st, 2011 at 6:14 PM ^
yeah but who's Meyer going to sit down with to learn how to game plan against Bama?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
The enemy of my enemy is my friend - Old Proverb.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^
Yes, but if Alabama and Ohio are both our enemies and eachothers enemies, then what does that make them? Frienemies?
In all seriousness, it's hard for me to imagine a Saban/Hoke collusion against Urban Meyer. Doesn't Saban have better things to do with his time than settling old scores? Coaches do visit each other's camps and share info sometimes, but a planning session to really get a particular coach seems far fetched.
Also, wouldn't Mattison be the best source of info for stopping Urban's offense. He saw it live every practice for a year.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:32 PM ^
We've always been at war with Urban Meyer.
We've always been aligned with Nick Saban.
Ignorance is strength. War is peace. Brian loves MANBALL.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
You have been all over this blog the last couple days. Appreciate the info.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
Wouldn't Borges already know about Urban to some extent? And um.,..Mattison too?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^
This was what I thought, but this story seems to be gaining some traction.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:39 PM ^
Yeah, I guess I should not be that surprised. Coaches share '"info" a lot. I know it is pretty customary that colleges coaches will visit with the NFL dudes a lot. Interesting nonetheless though. Good to see the coaches at least listening to thoughts about Urbanmania.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^
Mattison should know everything about Urban that Seban does.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
I don't see why Mattison would have ever had a full gameplan against Meyer's offense while he was at Florida. I think that is where the advantage of talking to Nick Saban comes into play. Sure Mattison will have valuable input about Meyer's general tendencies as a head coach, his decision making on both sides of the ball etc.
Coaches talk all the time.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^
the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
nope, don't care, hate saban
December 21st, 2011 at 2:36 PM ^
lol I'm not worried about urban, Carr had his number already.
Now lets meet with the Madd Hatter of Louisiana to discuss shop about Saban
December 21st, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^
I hear what you're saying, but the "Carr beat Meyer" meme is a bit overstated. Michigan beat Florida once in Carr's last game where Michigan was clearly more motivated to win and send its beloved coach out on a high note. Michigan threw all of its tendencies out the window, spread Florida out. To say that Michigan should not worry about OSU because Carr beat Meyer once in a bowl game years ago is a bit silly.
But I like your enthusiasm!
December 21st, 2011 at 3:12 PM ^
Understated is how much talent we had on that team. Damn you, Chad Henne's Shoulder.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
Saban himself wants us to beat Meyer!? First we sell Michigan hats in Arkansas and then we find an unlikely collaborator. We live in interesting times.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^
The tide is really turning.
harhar.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:09 PM ^
Wait, are you talking about the Tide or "the tide"?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
No you see, we're going to take what Saban tells us about Urban and how to prepare for Urban's offense/defense, and then devise our own schemes to counter Saban's schemes. Therefore, we will defeat both Alabama AND Urban.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:38 PM ^
Seems to me Mattison would be fairly familiar with U Meyer
December 21st, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^
Nobody likes or gets along with Saban.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^
especially marginal players who are taking up a scholarship spot.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^
The rumor I heard was that the best way to stop Meyer was to send a young co-ed his way. It gives him indigestion and forces him to retire for "health" reasons
December 21st, 2011 at 4:26 PM ^
The co-eds in Columbus have nothing in common with those in Gainesville other than plumbing. Meyer won't be tempted. That's probably why his wife Shelley gave him the OK to coach there.
December 21st, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^
Those are common side effects.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^
OP: If there is a MgoPrize for most posts that are actually merit reading and generate decent discussions you'd win the award going away.
In other words....if posts were baseball you'd be Rod Carew or Tony Gwinn. Nothing flashy and not a lot of home run pop but man o man can you hit singles an doubles all day long.
Nice work - thanks for keeping the board updated and alive during this slow period.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:44 PM ^
yeah this is pretty common. The Harbaugh brothers got together last week to discuss beating the Steelers cause it helped out both of them.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^
By our choice of DC, we can consult half of Meyer's mind as it is actually. Still, it is interesting to see that there is open chatter about Urban Meyer and how to best him. Perhaps asking questions about Alabama vs. Florida through the years would be most useful, of course - two birds, one stone? One can hope, even in vain.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:53 PM ^
I thought Saban hated UofM since his time at MSU. Maybe he got over it, or Maybe he hates Urban that much. Hes not the first guy I would've guessed would help UofM.
December 21st, 2011 at 4:09 PM ^
Saw the game in Dallas as his idea of revenge, try to clobber us and say SEE WHAT I CAN DO WITH EQUAL TALENT!!!!!
Then he put us like 9th in his final coaches poll, and shanked Sparty. Now this. I hate him less, I can't help it.
December 21st, 2011 at 9:56 PM ^
The talent on the field in Dallas will be far from equal.
December 21st, 2011 at 2:53 PM ^
THANKS PAAAWWWLLLL!!!
December 21st, 2011 at 2:54 PM ^
December 21st, 2011 at 2:54 PM ^
how to beat Meyer when Mattison worked for Meyer for years?
December 21st, 2011 at 2:56 PM ^
is sad
Oh and did I mention Paul Finebaum is awwwwwful!
December 21st, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^
I don't know whats more disgusting, that guy or his wife...
December 21st, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^
Not really because it makes no sense.
1. We have no idea what Urban's offense will look like at OSU.
2. Meyer has never had a QB like Braxton Miller
3. I don't think we can deploy this defense. "Here's what you do you line up your 11 5 star players........" Uh I have N. Brink in my 2 deep. "Nevermind"
4. This stuff doesn't happen.
Staffs trade ideas all the time so the rumor isn't crazy but they never trade ideas with teams they are playing in the next few years.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^
I'm with you 100%! Hell while we're at it, let's stop Michigan from watching tape ever again. Makes no sense to me! Just because they played one way against a team, doesn't mean out opponent will do the same things against us, am I right?!?! Also, I'm going to write a letter to Hoke and request that he not use a scout team in practices leading up to the bowl. I mean, who knows how much V-Tech's schemes will change during the break between games.
And the bottom line going back to a coach on a new team with different personnel is, why in the world would they bother coaching the same way they always have when they're in a different enviroment. Just look at a small sample of all these coaches that have drastically changed their styles when they coached elsewhere: RichRod (WVU vs U of M), Paul Johnson (Navy vs GaTech), Urban Meyer (Bowling Green vs Utah vs Florida)...
...or maybe it was those guys who didn't change a damn thing about their coach style...hmm, well, you know what I am getting at anyways!
/s
December 21st, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^
this is a mindset I don't get. We beat Alabama next year, we are on the hunt for a national title. At a certain point, our goals have to reach beyond OSU into the realm of national relevance. Beating a marquee SEC powerhouse in the regular season would put us back on the map.
ergo, I'd rather use meyer to beat Saban. and then use saban to beat meyer. fuck em both.
i certainly hope the team doesn't take the general fanbase's attitude towards that game in texas stadium next fall. don't sit there thinking... eh, we'll probably lose.... whatever.
December 21st, 2011 at 3:36 PM ^
Yes, beating Alabama puts is in the hunt for the title game if we went out.
However at the end of the year we'll playing a tOSU team for whom "The Game" is also their bowl game. Next year is likely one of the worst years to look past that school in Ohio.