Just doing some reading over there havent kept up because WE HAVE JUST WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP but it appears Miami (YTM) and Oregon bought their best defensive line players lol. Miami isn't even a good program - hell MSU beat them a few years back. And Oregon is now a conference rival. How insulting.
Whatever players they do find of any value will be bought by others. Going to be hilarious if Chiles is any good - he is going to be bought by someone else. As will any other player who is decent. LOLz
Welcome to being a feeder program despite "top 25 in revenue and facilities" - Valenti
Stop feeling bad for them, ironically or not. You apparently dont remember the tunnel when they assaulted multiple players from our program. Multiple posters on RCMB were hoping the plane would have crashed when UM bb had airplane issues about 8 years ago. Its a disgusting fan base.
You don't remember a lot of things if you ironically feel bad.
How many winning seasons do they have again this decade????
BUT BUT BUT Johnny3x7x7xx says Michigan cannot win 7 games every year because of the loss of talent and the mentalstate guy says if every other team would not hold MSU on every play they would have been 15-0 the last 30 seasons
These suck and I am not old man yelling at clouds guy - I love the alternative Detroit Lions uni and helmet! These are like Michigan's bumble bees. Pathetic.
Real talk - outside of DE and Loveland name me a singular player on offense who will be drafted next year or the year after. Dont give me Semaj nonsense or the transfer from Northwestern.
This really goes against what Michigan is mostly doing. I realize they have gotten 3-4 dudes out of the portal annually but they have been relying on NILing their home grown talent mostly. Now many of these guys won't be sticking around long enough to wait their turn to be a home grown talent.
His game in the Big 12 championship was crazy. More impact on a game than most guys have in a year.
Suh had one of the great games in Big 12 championship game history, producing a career-best 4.5 sacks among his team-high 12 tackles -- seven of which were for a loss.
I would want Mel there as long as possible. In retrospect he was a total loser and a bad coach who got lucky 1 year. MSU got a get out of jail free card (or relatively free) and could hire someone with basic ethics. It would have been much better to see another 5 years of Mel and then a sad buyout 75+ million in, circa 2030.
When ZZ broke his leg three guys from OSU stood near him much closer than the rest of the OSU team and looked genuine concerned helmets off. JT, Hall, and I forgot the third.
Anthony Carter would like a word. As would about 8 other people.
Woodson on his own island than Desmond near that island and about 10 people in the other 3 spots. I am not old enough to know lor view the film of one Tom Harmon.
A lot of people would hold a closer bond if they were in an era of social media, constant information flow, and/or their team went 15-0 vs 9-3. Jake Long would be in that latter camp.
Offensive minded coach, best WR in the NFL, adequate OL, have a veteran to take the beatings in year 1 ahead of him but not a veteran who is going to be around long to compete against etc. A lot better situation than the others although Chicago has a chance to make a big jump if they hit on their picks.
Lions gave up a lot to move up. Every trade value chart said that it was more appropriate to give up a mid to late 4th.
That said if Arnold is an All Pro no one will care. And we don't know if he is the best corner, the guy from Toledo was taken 2 picks in front of him. And some guy in the 3rd may turn out to be the best in 2 years.
Henne was a 2nd rounder. He started his age 24, 25, and 28 seasons. Career backup from there - 7 seasons, played 17 games total in those 7 years.
His bank account is a winner that's for sure.
Reminds me a bit of rich man's Jim Sorgi who backed up Manning in Indy for 6 years - greatest job in the world, get paid and do nothing while traveling the US and having fun. Guy threw like 150 passes in his career.
Yes look at the 21 draft. Lawrence was "generational" - best QB since Luck but got stuck with Urbz. After that every other QB drafted in the FIRST round has been booted by his team in 3 years!!
They literally have two safeties on the roster lol. Campbell literally said "they are not done at safety" a few weeks ago. The veteran guys in the market want to get paid and not be a backup.
Guys there are injuries in the NFL! One of our starters has 6 games of starter experience! Someone like Joseph they won't be able to afford on contract 2, with all the $$ coming down the pike for Hutch, Laporta, (hopefully) McNeil, and Goff. Branch too, and probably Gibbs.
You can never have enough of secondary players! Especially cheap ones on first year contracts.
Yep! Glasgow had a great year but you never know when a guy tails off in the 30s. Don't see how they retain Decker with the salary cap unless he is willing to do one of those 3 year deals under mkt which is really 2 years and you know you are being cut at age 32 but it gives you 2 years to hang with your buddies Ragnow and Glasgow. Sewell being paid as the top left tackle in the league but playing right tackle long term wouldn't make sense.
Also Ragnow is a friggin warrior, when you read about what he has been going thru injury wise the past few years but he is a retirement risk really any year with how his body has been wrecked. The guys like the one from Duke and Oregon who have that center / guard flexibility would be great for the Lions - if only they had three first/second round picks :D
Lions fans for first time have to confront what these elite franchies like Steelers Ravens Packers have to deal with - you need to pick and choose who you keep and bloodlet the rest and find cheap replacements on first contract deals for all but 6-8 guys on the roster.
Plenty were mocked in 20s across many authors. Most were guys who could be center and guard hybrids.
ZZ was never one of them. Even pre injury he wasn't considered in that echelon when the early mocks were out last fall. But yeah you are going to get a steady 10 year veteran ala Backus type (diff position) I think with Zinter.
Their CB room empties out in a year - this overhaul was for a year. Arnold only guy guaranteed to be back in a year.
And a lot of Campbell talk of hybriding Branch as a safety this offseason. They wanted to not inundate him last year with 2 positions but he sounds a bit like the Chauncy plan - play both.
Mikey is both team captain material and a pure play maker. One of the current starting safeties has all of 6 games of starting material on film. (a good 6 games but just that) and no depth behind it. One gets hurt you move Branch there and Mikey into slot etc. Probably moot as I don't see him falling even to late 2nd round but you never know.
Bigger picture you gotta keep recycling young guys in as the way they are structured with massive spend on OL, WR1, QB, and soon DL & TE you gotta have "cheap" positions too and it looks like it's got to be the secondary and linebackers with how the team is built. Not going to be able to afford a CB1 on the free agent market.
I would like to see them drop out of the 2nd and pick up additional picks. After pick 61 they don't draft until 100 picks later. Can't see them moving up in the 2nd as they don't have draft capital of value unless we are talking 2025 inventory. If they can translate that late 2nd to an early to mid 3rd and an early 4th or something like that it would be positive. Someone like Zinter or equal interior OL value could drop to them in early 4th for example.
Even with our great GM 5th to 7th round picks are generally low probability to pan out. Last year are Colby Sorsdal and Antoine Green, prior year Rodrigo which was a camp phenom but really a special team player on a real team, Houston and Chase Lucas, and first year was Jermar Jefferson. So out of those 3 drafts you have a 7 game run by Houston and cameo by Rodrigo on a really bad roster at the time. Sorsdal was a developmental pick from a small school, so we'll see if he becomes anything in time.
And yes I know Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, and a host of guys who turn into stars as UDFAs or late rounders but it's not the probability vs guys in the 2nd thru 4th.
Yeah JJ gonna drop to #29 and/or give up the next two years of first round picks and a second to move up 24 spots for unproven JJ and get rid of the first guy to win a playoff game for the franchise, and in fact 2. Also a team leader.
Hand over a NFC champion game team to a guy without a single throw in the NFL.
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Just doing some reading over there havent kept up because WE HAVE JUST WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP but it appears Miami (YTM) and Oregon bought their best defensive line players lol. Miami isn't even a good program - hell MSU beat them a few years back. And Oregon is now a conference rival. How insulting.
Whatever players they do find of any value will be bought by others. Going to be hilarious if Chiles is any good - he is going to be bought by someone else. As will any other player who is decent. LOLz
Welcome to being a feeder program despite "top 25 in revenue and facilities" - Valenti
Stop feeling bad for them, ironically or not. You apparently dont remember the tunnel when they assaulted multiple players from our program. Multiple posters on RCMB were hoping the plane would have crashed when UM bb had airplane issues about 8 years ago. Its a disgusting fan base.
You don't remember a lot of things if you ironically feel bad.
How many winning seasons do they have again this decade????
BUT BUT BUT Johnny3x7x7xx says Michigan cannot win 7 games every year because of the loss of talent and the mentalstate guy says if every other team would not hold MSU on every play they would have been 15-0 the last 30 seasons
I thought you meant 6-8 as our record on first glance..
These suck and I am not old man yelling at clouds guy - I love the alternative Detroit Lions uni and helmet! These are like Michigan's bumble bees. Pathetic.
Maybe go with the orange if nothing else.
It's cute but WR recruiting is going against us due to the narrative that is working unfortunately.
Real talk - outside of DE and Loveland name me a singular player on offense who will be drafted next year or the year after. Dont give me Semaj nonsense or the transfer from Northwestern.
Its a fucking mock a year out in which half of the first rounders wont even be in the first round.
JORDAN POOLE IS A FOOL FOR LEAVING EARLY - ALL OF MGOBLOG
"Looks at Jordan Poole's contract"
Uhh.....
I think we all know his Heisman win will get him in the top 6. We just dont want to say it out loud because some accuse us of arrogance.
Marvin "Alligator" Harrison wouldnt compete for the first catch because he acted a bitch and was afraid of getting hit.
BUT HE IS TOUGH
Remember Maserati's alligator arms on the first INT?? He was so "tough" as Lou Holtz told us.
HAHA
This really goes against what Michigan is mostly doing. I realize they have gotten 3-4 dudes out of the portal annually but they have been relying on NILing their home grown talent mostly. Now many of these guys won't be sticking around long enough to wait their turn to be a home grown talent.
This era sucks.
Chuck Gaidica just called!
Games on WDIV - can you imagine that now?
Bless you boys!
I do believe the DVR does erase after a certain period tho.
Tigers have an amazing PBP baseball announcer too so it's not missing - you get the best of both worlds.
He is not that well known outside of Michigan circles and college football nuts. Will get more playing time and notice this year.
His game in the Big 12 championship was crazy. More impact on a game than most guys have in a year.
Yeah I mean every man in an acrimonious divorce is just shoveling money towards his ex in court proceedings.
Mel is a mother tucker but gosh most guys are trying to protect assets from the person they are trying to run from.
I disagree
I would want Mel there as long as possible. In retrospect he was a total loser and a bad coach who got lucky 1 year. MSU got a get out of jail free card (or relatively free) and could hire someone with basic ethics. It would have been much better to see another 5 years of Mel and then a sad buyout 75+ million in, circa 2030.
Mondays are for croots! Can't wait til MBB adds another 3 guys next Monday!!
When ZZ broke his leg three guys from OSU stood near him much closer than the rest of the OSU team and looked genuine concerned helmets off. JT, Hall, and I forgot the third.
Can we still have subs tho???
So we tampered then?? :)
No players were good before 1997?
Anthony Carter would like a word. As would about 8 other people.
Woodson on his own island than Desmond near that island and about 10 people in the other 3 spots. I am not old enough to know lor view the film of one Tom Harmon.
A lot of people would hold a closer bond if they were in an era of social media, constant information flow, and/or their team went 15-0 vs 9-3. Jake Long would be in that latter camp.
Team captain in 2 years.
I love requests!
It's great to root for players who stay in college for 6 years.... but at 4 schools.
Offensive minded coach, best WR in the NFL, adequate OL, have a veteran to take the beatings in year 1 ahead of him but not a veteran who is going to be around long to compete against etc. A lot better situation than the others although Chicago has a chance to make a big jump if they hit on their picks.
Lions gave up a lot to move up. Every trade value chart said that it was more appropriate to give up a mid to late 4th.
That said if Arnold is an All Pro no one will care. And we don't know if he is the best corner, the guy from Toledo was taken 2 picks in front of him. And some guy in the 3rd may turn out to be the best in 2 years.
But he is a good Christian boy - aren't you aware of his public persona?
Boy good question
Henne was a 2nd rounder. He started his age 24, 25, and 28 seasons. Career backup from there - 7 seasons, played 17 games total in those 7 years.
His bank account is a winner that's for sure.
Reminds me a bit of rich man's Jim Sorgi who backed up Manning in Indy for 6 years - greatest job in the world, get paid and do nothing while traveling the US and having fun. Guy threw like 150 passes in his career.
Yes look at the 21 draft. Lawrence was "generational" - best QB since Luck but got stuck with Urbz. After that every other QB drafted in the FIRST round has been booted by his team in 3 years!!
They literally have two safeties on the roster lol. Campbell literally said "they are not done at safety" a few weeks ago. The veteran guys in the market want to get paid and not be a backup.
Guys there are injuries in the NFL! One of our starters has 6 games of starter experience! Someone like Joseph they won't be able to afford on contract 2, with all the $$ coming down the pike for Hutch, Laporta, (hopefully) McNeil, and Goff. Branch too, and probably Gibbs.
You can never have enough of secondary players! Especially cheap ones on first year contracts.
Yep! Glasgow had a great year but you never know when a guy tails off in the 30s. Don't see how they retain Decker with the salary cap unless he is willing to do one of those 3 year deals under mkt which is really 2 years and you know you are being cut at age 32 but it gives you 2 years to hang with your buddies Ragnow and Glasgow. Sewell being paid as the top left tackle in the league but playing right tackle long term wouldn't make sense.
Also Ragnow is a friggin warrior, when you read about what he has been going thru injury wise the past few years but he is a retirement risk really any year with how his body has been wrecked. The guys like the one from Duke and Oregon who have that center / guard flexibility would be great for the Lions - if only they had three first/second round picks :D
Lions fans for first time have to confront what these elite franchies like Steelers Ravens Packers have to deal with - you need to pick and choose who you keep and bloodlet the rest and find cheap replacements on first contract deals for all but 6-8 guys on the roster.
Plenty were mocked in 20s across many authors. Most were guys who could be center and guard hybrids.
ZZ was never one of them. Even pre injury he wasn't considered in that echelon when the early mocks were out last fall. But yeah you are going to get a steady 10 year veteran ala Backus type (diff position) I think with Zinter.
Their CB room empties out in a year - this overhaul was for a year. Arnold only guy guaranteed to be back in a year.
And a lot of Campbell talk of hybriding Branch as a safety this offseason. They wanted to not inundate him last year with 2 positions but he sounds a bit like the Chauncy plan - play both.
Mikey is both team captain material and a pure play maker. One of the current starting safeties has all of 6 games of starting material on film. (a good 6 games but just that) and no depth behind it. One gets hurt you move Branch there and Mikey into slot etc. Probably moot as I don't see him falling even to late 2nd round but you never know.
Bigger picture you gotta keep recycling young guys in as the way they are structured with massive spend on OL, WR1, QB, and soon DL & TE you gotta have "cheap" positions too and it looks like it's got to be the secondary and linebackers with how the team is built. Not going to be able to afford a CB1 on the free agent market.
I would like to see them drop out of the 2nd and pick up additional picks. After pick 61 they don't draft until 100 picks later. Can't see them moving up in the 2nd as they don't have draft capital of value unless we are talking 2025 inventory. If they can translate that late 2nd to an early to mid 3rd and an early 4th or something like that it would be positive. Someone like Zinter or equal interior OL value could drop to them in early 4th for example.
Even with our great GM 5th to 7th round picks are generally low probability to pan out. Last year are Colby Sorsdal and Antoine Green, prior year Rodrigo which was a camp phenom but really a special team player on a real team, Houston and Chase Lucas, and first year was Jermar Jefferson. So out of those 3 drafts you have a 7 game run by Houston and cameo by Rodrigo on a really bad roster at the time. Sorsdal was a developmental pick from a small school, so we'll see if he becomes anything in time.
And yes I know Tom Brady, Brock Purdy, and a host of guys who turn into stars as UDFAs or late rounders but it's not the probability vs guys in the 2nd thru 4th.
Hutch v JJ twice a year.
OSU and Georgia have 5 stars sitting on the bench so no it's not all CFB.
A rookie playing a difficult position but still made it to the starting lineup by mid season. Yeah what a punk.
Nothing good ever comes out of Belleville for Michigan.
Rumor is ishbia paid him half a million to get on campus and U of Miami laughs at that
MSU is Miam's bitch (farm system)
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Yeah JJ gonna drop to #29 and/or give up the next two years of first round picks and a second to move up 24 spots for unproven JJ and get rid of the first guy to win a playoff game for the franchise, and in fact 2. Also a team leader.
Hand over a NFC champion game team to a guy without a single throw in the NFL.
Jesus.
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