1990: Nate Holdren. 4-star QB who came in with Todd Collins, chose MLB, never made it out of the minors.
1991: Craig Randall: 3-star, transferred to Tulane in '92.
1992: Eric Boykin: 4-star out of Ohio. Transferred to West Virginia when Moeller was fired.
1993: Scot Loeffler: Top-100 guy, got injured, now HC of Bowling Green and buddies with Craig Ross
CARR
1996: Jason Kapsner: 5-star out of Minnesota, injured and fell behind on depth chart.
2001 (as jr): Spencer Brinton: Transfer from SDSU after a 2-year Mormon mission. Played some backup snaps.
2006: David Cone: 3-star career backup, gave up promising rap career to become a far-right demagogue.
RODRIGUEZ
2008: Justin Feagin. Had some snaps in an Orji role, got kicked off the team for selling drugs.
2010: Conelius Jones. Unable to enroll, ended up at Marshall.
HARBAUGH
2015: Alex Malzone. Technically belongs to Harbaugh but was recruited by Hoke. Never climbed the depth chart, transferred to Miami (NNTM) after he got his degree.
-----------------STILL PLAYING ELSEWHERE-----------------
2020: Dan Villari. Last-minute addition to the class when their commit had to retire from football and CJ Stroud chose OSU. Now a very good tight end for Syracuse.
2021: Alan Bowman. Transfer from Texas Tech, now the starter for Oklahoma State.
Watching ticket prices and other factors (eg how many sideline passes are available) the games are tiered as follows:
Texas
Oregon, MSU, USC [big gap]
Minnesota, Northwestern
Fresno State
Arkansas State
So I would give the person who doesn't get Texas the next 2 picks (Oregon and MSU?), first choice of Tier 3, and Fresno State to make up for them not getting the Tier 1 game. The guy with Texas should be happy then with one of Oregon/MSU/USC, one of Minnesota/NWern, and Arkansas State. YMMV of course if MSU is a big deal in your family or if you don't like night games or whatever. The value of the games to any one person probably changes the math a lot, so having first choice of tiers 2 and 3 is probably worth more than getting a pair of down Big Ten games instead of nonconference bunnies.
Based solely on your proposal though, I'd personally take Texas & MSU, because the UT game is going to be incredible, MSU is a big deal to people around me, and I think we're going to lose to Oregon.
Leak: Donovan Edwards on Main Cover of College Football 2025 as well
Someone posted a photo link that was trying to draw in a url from EA, which was causing a massive slowdown of the entire site. Had to delete the thread. You're welcome to repost it with a graphic that doesn't try to crash the site. Link a tweet or upload a copy of it to the site if you want; don't do what you did again please (EA is a notoriously unstable site FYI).
The big block in the way of such an idea is you have to negotiate this between entities, and right now there is no entity that represents the athletes. My general idea is to work with Congress to create a new class of employee that recognizes student-athletes as a type of intern that can collectively bargain but isn't due all of the rights due to full employees (like unemployment) and doesn't incur an employee tax. Any educational costs incurred by the employer/school (basically tuition/room/board/stipend) would be treated as scholarships and not taxed as income. The rest would be reportable as non-employee compensation.
Using this structure the NCAA could then collectively bargain with an entity representing the athletes for something close to what's been outlined in the House negotiations--20% of all TV and ticket revenue. The NCAA would also be able to set Divisional scholarship minimums and maximums, and divisionally based minimums of scholarships and sponsored sports, to protect the student-athlete experience.
In the process Congress would also demand certain concessions from the NCAA to protect Title IX and other sports. Simply put, a school would have to maintain a certain number of varsity men's and women's sports to be eligible to count educational costs as scholarships. These levels would be set by divisions, so if you're going to compete in Division I football, either you maintain X varsity sports and Y number of scholarships department-wide, or none of that compensation is treated as scholarships and you have to make them all full employees. This would discourage, say, directional Florida schools from getting rid of all sports except football and rowing.
I would expect ~60 schools to be able to meet the criteria for D-I, but smaller programs would still have the option of running their football programs as full for-profit marketing operations, which would in turn relieve their other sports operations. Many will not be able to support this model, but I would argue they never should have been able to use student fees to prop up their football programs in the first place, and that competing on the top level either requires an acknowledgement that you're doing it for non-educational purposes or a commitment to spend a lot of the money they get back on sponsoring varsity athletics.
Conferences, of course, could also set their own requirements for participation.
As for NIL and collectives, I actually think that will work itself out without major regulations from Congress or the NCAA. The system right now is untenable because there's no way for the schools to compensate better players and there's no way to enforce contracts, so the players can just take donor money then transfer and take somebody else's donor money. As a Michigan fan I don't want donor-milking to be the primary funding mechanism of paying athletes because our donors would rather fund transportation and environmental research or make Mott the #1 children's hospital in America than get Belleville's quarterback to commit, but fundamentally I don't have a problem with rich people paying athletes to play for their favorite teams.
HOWEVER I would like to see part of the federal bill prevent states from racing each other to the bottom on this. Federal regulation could require that all states tax athlete compensation at the rate of the highest state's income tax, with any difference paid into a pool that funds medical care for all former college athletes or something. So for example if the state of Georgia says they won't tax any income earned by athletes, the athletes would still have to pay California income taxes on their post-scholarship earnings, and that money could create a fund that pays any former athlete's medical expenses for treatment of athletics-related injuries (read: lots and lots of joint surgeries).
Not a big factor. Moeller's first class was 1990, and it was much rarer for guys to go to the NFL early, so we are really starting with the state of the NFL in 1994, and by 1995 there were 32 teams, a salary cap, and 7 rounds. There are more picks today because they've added extra picks for various reasons in the late rounds, but there's also a much larger player pool of D-I talent today than in Moeller's time. To get around the vagaries of practice squads etc. I separated Undrafted Free Agents into categories based on whether they made it on the field in an NFL game or not.
I have data for Bo as well but I left him out because the changes in the NFL, and the 85-man scholarship limit, weren't factors for his entire career.
Thanks. It was just such a long column already I didn't want to go chasing down all of the quotes, especially since I find the usefulness of coach quotes to the media not very empirical. I wanted the data to speak.
Yes, the RSS is broken right now. I just have too much else on my plate to go jiggling with it, because you can break 10 other things trying to get it to work.
Oh dang. That was me mid-rewrite of the following paragraph. I meant to find a less clunky way of saying it but I just set that piece back to its original.
There are plenty of busts in the names above, but also a lot of guys who played early and guys who developed late. You have to look at Paige, Hill-Green or further back, Josh Metellus, if you want to talk about major scouting wins relative to recruiting pedigree, but Corum was a different kind of scouting win: Michigan knew from Poggi what kind of guy he was.
I think Harbaugh had some innate characteristics that Moore doesn't, but I also don't think it's a coincidence that the culture shift occurred around the same time they hired Sherrone Moore. Moore can also coast for awhile on Harbaugh's connections--he coached with most of the staff of the Chargers and Seahawks HC Mike Macdonald, and Sherrone also got to know John Harbaugh, so it's not like the NFL is going to forget about Michigan now. But I also think Sherrone is going to go harder into NIL than Harbaugh did, and is going to lean on his own experiences as a highly ranked recruit who chose Oklahoma for the reasons he did, and that's going to produce different results. My guess is the guys Harbaugh recruited are going to do very well by being shaped by both, but that Sherrone's program long-term will end up kind of like Lloyd Carr's or David Shaw's, where the man who shaped it is gone and they're calcifying the way he did things as the Right way.
MSU and OSU are peer institutions, meaning the University of Michigan considers them so. It's not the policies but whether you're willing to bend them for athletes.
They can't be forced but should be at least as reasonable as peer institutions.
There's no interest lately bc they have applicants coming out of their ears. But they race other schools for rankings and alumni satisfaction is a factor in those and also is tied to sports. M
Wanna hear something funny? In high school I was rooting for Seaholm against my own school. I don't regret it; my brother played varsity for the Mapes. But as soon as he graduated I felt I had to make up for lost cheering.
Was the main topic yesterday on my call with HUEL this week. They put in a hotfix that isn't going to be a permanent solution. Drupal depreciated the old WYSIWYG editor so we had to install the new one, but all of the things we'd written for it have to be updated.
The list is the list. Jeremiah Beasley is going to count against Sherrone, Harbaugh will get credit for Evan Link, etc. I wasn't going to start taking guys off for editorial reasons. "Development" is only one part of what's going on here. They found talent, found self-motivators, figured out ways to project guys better (e.g. if their dad played in the NFL), and probably most effectively, they made it a program goal to prepare their players for the NFL. Harbaugh also likely used his connections in the NFL to help his guys. Development is in there somewhere too, but that's not really what we're able to measure. What we can say is Harbaugh-recruited players whose college careers are over were far more likely to be in the NFL than players recruited by former coaches.
I know y'all are being haters but point of fact: Michigan State credits transfer better than literally any other school. They get a lot of MSU transfers, and there's a lot of reciprocity between the school systems to convert each others' programs to credits at one or the other
Some of you weren't reading my 2020 and 2021 recruiting posts and it shows. This was a "Sad Josh" recruitment. As Sam reiterated on the radio today, Michigan was coming in soft for Mangham as a WR/DB athlete, and Mel Tucker's staff started working hard when they came online. Meanwhile Michigan was prioritizing Zeke Berry, found Damani Dent outta nowhere, and were all in on Keon Sabb. They also were fighting MSU for Dillon Tatum, but could afford to lose that battle given the other guys they got.
Now that safety class is at Bama, Charlotte, and nickel, and Rod Moore is out for the year. I guess I'm the official MSU non-hater around here now but I find it ideal--whatever school Mangham went to--if Michigan can just go to the next guy they wanted and steal a starter off a rival.
As for whether there's room, ah yup. Add Sabb and Q-Jo's snaps together from last year and that's the role that's available. Brandyn Hillman came in super-raw but he might be pushing for snaps by the end of the year. The only guy after him is true freshman Oden, who's a better player than people realize but also a true freshman. I'd add Mangham to that group in a heartbeat.
I'd also use the next heartbeat to lament the broken bits from going into the offseason with Rod Moore, Makari Paige, and Keon Sabb as our rotation. That Moore injury may be the suckiest injury at Michigan since...Aidan Hutchinson in 2020? T-Wolf in 2010?
"NCAA fix this" is a strawman. Today's conversation was about how negotiations over a settlement in the House case are an opportunity that the NCAA hasn't had yet to be sitting across from somebody at the other end of the table who is representing player interests. They can't just get out of the lawsuit without presenting a plan, so they can actually create a plan! The problem before was they couldn't negotiate because there wasn't a negotiating partner, and won't be until the players have a union capable of collective bargaining on their behalf.
In RR's slight defense, Hoke's staff didn't do a great job developing guys that Rich Rod and his staff only got through their freshman and sophomore years (he arrived too late in 2008 to build much of a class). And Practicegate and 3-9 and all of that also dampened recruiting, so the bottom of his classes were a lot lower. RR also had a few more guys I might classify as good college player who weren't as valuable to the NFL. Like, we'd recruit Craig Roh, Roy Roundtree, Devin Gardner, and Kevin Koger again, but those guys never made an NFL roster.
But he still had a lot of whiffs. Draft picks:
Name
Round
Taylor Lewan
1st
Mike Martin
3rd
Michael Schofield
3rd
Jake Ryan
4th
Denard Robinson
5th
William Campbell
6th
Mike Cox
7th
Josh Furman
7th
Jeremy Gallon
7th
Jordan Kovacs
UDFA+
Kenny Demens
UDFA
Patrick Omameh
UDFA+
Richard Ash
UDFA+
Fitzgerald Toussaint
UDFA+
4+-stars who weren't drafted:
Devin Gardner Darryl Stonum Dann O'Neill Craig Roh Justin Turner Demar Dorsey Je'Ron Stokes Boubacar Cissoko Cullen Christian J.B. Fitzgerald Tate Forcier Anthony LaLota Quinton Washington Sam McGuffie Marcus Witherspoon Brandon Smith Ricky Barnum Terrence Robinson Brandon Moore Michael Shaw Kevin Koger Marvin Robinson Ricardo Miller
You're making this more dramatic than it is. Yes, I think Warde only half-assedly tried to keep Harbaugh, and that some of the regents were very frustrated by this. But that was happening before Jan 8. After Warde made him sign a cheap deal in 2020 Harbaugh was going to be looking to get back to the NFL. I said as much in HTTV last year. He was more likely to stick around for a NC, but after he won one, the only thing that made it possible for him to return was that the NCAA and Big Ten were doing everything they could to push him out the door.
It's a lot more than optics. Employment agreements exist in all fields of business because a company can't spend all of its time swapping and retraining employees. It behooves both parties to sign an agreement providing stability.
Also the system right now makes players choose between optimizing their value as athletes and receiving a complete education. This incentive structure is backwards, but does competitively benefit the SEC, Ohio State, and most of the G5 schools who aren't providing high-value educations for their athletes (even if the school itself is a good degree). Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, and a lot of high-academic schools that recruit on education have been fighting this at the NCAA level for years.
Just checked his RS status. He burned it both years (meaning he played in more than 4 regular season games). Last year it was 4 snaps against Nebraska that did it.
The portal is weird and unknowable, but taking a cornerback to Oxford MS for a semester then returning him a wide receiver is probably its strangest move yet.
They're both home though? Clemons family lived in Michigan until he was like halfway through HS. Home for most of his life was Lansing. He was good friends with Andrel Anthony.
I'm glad I'm not alone on pnc. They just have so many cool quirks to discover as well. Like fans walking by can see into the bullpen so if you are walking by the river before the game you might see Pedro Martinez warming up.
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Lima!
A few guys you missed:
MOELLER
CARR
RODRIGUEZ
HARBAUGH
2015: Alex Malzone. Technically belongs to Harbaugh but was recruited by Hoke. Never climbed the depth chart, transferred to Miami (NNTM) after he got his degree.
-----------------STILL PLAYING ELSEWHERE-----------------
Watching ticket prices and other factors (eg how many sideline passes are available) the games are tiered as follows:
[big gap]
So I would give the person who doesn't get Texas the next 2 picks (Oregon and MSU?), first choice of Tier 3, and Fresno State to make up for them not getting the Tier 1 game. The guy with Texas should be happy then with one of Oregon/MSU/USC, one of Minnesota/NWern, and Arkansas State. YMMV of course if MSU is a big deal in your family or if you don't like night games or whatever. The value of the games to any one person probably changes the math a lot, so having first choice of tiers 2 and 3 is probably worth more than getting a pair of down Big Ten games instead of nonconference bunnies.
Based solely on your proposal though, I'd personally take Texas & MSU, because the UT game is going to be incredible, MSU is a big deal to people around me, and I think we're going to lose to Oregon.
Leak: Donovan Edwards on Main Cover of College Football 2025 as well
Someone posted a photo link that was trying to draw in a url from EA, which was causing a massive slowdown of the entire site. Had to delete the thread. You're welcome to repost it with a graphic that doesn't try to crash the site. Link a tweet or upload a copy of it to the site if you want; don't do what you did again please (EA is a notoriously unstable site FYI).
The big block in the way of such an idea is you have to negotiate this between entities, and right now there is no entity that represents the athletes. My general idea is to work with Congress to create a new class of employee that recognizes student-athletes as a type of intern that can collectively bargain but isn't due all of the rights due to full employees (like unemployment) and doesn't incur an employee tax. Any educational costs incurred by the employer/school (basically tuition/room/board/stipend) would be treated as scholarships and not taxed as income. The rest would be reportable as non-employee compensation.
Using this structure the NCAA could then collectively bargain with an entity representing the athletes for something close to what's been outlined in the House negotiations--20% of all TV and ticket revenue. The NCAA would also be able to set Divisional scholarship minimums and maximums, and divisionally based minimums of scholarships and sponsored sports, to protect the student-athlete experience.
In the process Congress would also demand certain concessions from the NCAA to protect Title IX and other sports. Simply put, a school would have to maintain a certain number of varsity men's and women's sports to be eligible to count educational costs as scholarships. These levels would be set by divisions, so if you're going to compete in Division I football, either you maintain X varsity sports and Y number of scholarships department-wide, or none of that compensation is treated as scholarships and you have to make them all full employees. This would discourage, say, directional Florida schools from getting rid of all sports except football and rowing.
I would expect ~60 schools to be able to meet the criteria for D-I, but smaller programs would still have the option of running their football programs as full for-profit marketing operations, which would in turn relieve their other sports operations. Many will not be able to support this model, but I would argue they never should have been able to use student fees to prop up their football programs in the first place, and that competing on the top level either requires an acknowledgement that you're doing it for non-educational purposes or a commitment to spend a lot of the money they get back on sponsoring varsity athletics.
Conferences, of course, could also set their own requirements for participation.
As for NIL and collectives, I actually think that will work itself out without major regulations from Congress or the NCAA. The system right now is untenable because there's no way for the schools to compensate better players and there's no way to enforce contracts, so the players can just take donor money then transfer and take somebody else's donor money. As a Michigan fan I don't want donor-milking to be the primary funding mechanism of paying athletes because our donors would rather fund transportation and environmental research or make Mott the #1 children's hospital in America than get Belleville's quarterback to commit, but fundamentally I don't have a problem with rich people paying athletes to play for their favorite teams.
HOWEVER I would like to see part of the federal bill prevent states from racing each other to the bottom on this. Federal regulation could require that all states tax athlete compensation at the rate of the highest state's income tax, with any difference paid into a pool that funds medical care for all former college athletes or something. So for example if the state of Georgia says they won't tax any income earned by athletes, the athletes would still have to pay California income taxes on their post-scholarship earnings, and that money could create a fund that pays any former athlete's medical expenses for treatment of athletics-related injuries (read: lots and lots of joint surgeries).
Not a big factor. Moeller's first class was 1990, and it was much rarer for guys to go to the NFL early, so we are really starting with the state of the NFL in 1994, and by 1995 there were 32 teams, a salary cap, and 7 rounds. There are more picks today because they've added extra picks for various reasons in the late rounds, but there's also a much larger player pool of D-I talent today than in Moeller's time. To get around the vagaries of practice squads etc. I separated Undrafted Free Agents into categories based on whether they made it on the field in an NFL game or not.
I have data for Bo as well but I left him out because the changes in the NFL, and the 85-man scholarship limit, weren't factors for his entire career.
Writing diminishes after 2am.
It's a function we lost with the migration to the new drupal unfortunately.
I will but we have an error in our pts system that i need to fix first.
Kickoff time announced for Fresno State home opener
this is known.
Thanks. It was just such a long column already I didn't want to go chasing down all of the quotes, especially since I find the usefulness of coach quotes to the media not very empirical. I wanted the data to speak.
Yes, the RSS is broken right now. I just have too much else on my plate to go jiggling with it, because you can break 10 other things trying to get it to work.
What was your first CD?
Oh dang. That was me mid-rewrite of the following paragraph. I meant to find a less clunky way of saying it but I just set that piece back to its original.
I think Harbaugh had some innate characteristics that Moore doesn't, but I also don't think it's a coincidence that the culture shift occurred around the same time they hired Sherrone Moore. Moore can also coast for awhile on Harbaugh's connections--he coached with most of the staff of the Chargers and Seahawks HC Mike Macdonald, and Sherrone also got to know John Harbaugh, so it's not like the NFL is going to forget about Michigan now. But I also think Sherrone is going to go harder into NIL than Harbaugh did, and is going to lean on his own experiences as a highly ranked recruit who chose Oklahoma for the reasons he did, and that's going to produce different results. My guess is the guys Harbaugh recruited are going to do very well by being shaped by both, but that Sherrone's program long-term will end up kind of like Lloyd Carr's or David Shaw's, where the man who shaped it is gone and they're calcifying the way he did things as the Right way.
Oops. Fixed it.
MSU and OSU are peer institutions, meaning the University of Michigan considers them so. It's not the policies but whether you're willing to bend them for athletes.
changed title.
There's no interest lately bc they have applicants coming out of their ears. But they race other schools for rankings and alumni satisfaction is a factor in those and also is tied to sports. M
We're aware, but the RSS feed is way low on the priority list. Sorry.
OSU AD Gene Smith: UM wins should have an asterisk
Not a diary
Yes, by "Michigan" I meant LSA Admissions & Dean. This is standard behavior for every comparable university.
In this case Jaden would earn his MSU credits at Michigan.
Here's the agreement. I said it's 10 years old on the show; it's actually now 12 but it took a couple of years for the policy to be in place.
https://www.mitransfer.org/michigan-transfer-agreement
Wanna hear something funny? In high school I was rooting for Seaholm against my own school. I don't regret it; my brother played varsity for the Mapes. But as soon as he graduated I felt I had to make up for lost cheering.
Lox
I just fixed it.
He was definitely a take but didn't think he'd get enough PT.
I don't know what to think about this, so I'm going to wait for Sports Moralizer in Chief Gregg Doyle to tell me.
I was gifted a challenge coin this year from a reader. I have kept it on me since.
Relatedly, ISS passes over Michigan this week.
Was the main topic yesterday on my call with HUEL this week. They put in a hotfix that isn't going to be a permanent solution. Drupal depreciated the old WYSIWYG editor so we had to install the new one, but all of the things we'd written for it have to be updated.
You're one podcast too late.
https://mgoblog.com/content/mgopodcast-1527-your-ring-makes-you-look-fat
The list is the list. Jeremiah Beasley is going to count against Sherrone, Harbaugh will get credit for Evan Link, etc. I wasn't going to start taking guys off for editorial reasons. "Development" is only one part of what's going on here. They found talent, found self-motivators, figured out ways to project guys better (e.g. if their dad played in the NFL), and probably most effectively, they made it a program goal to prepare their players for the NFL. Harbaugh also likely used his connections in the NFL to help his guys. Development is in there somewhere too, but that's not really what we're able to measure. What we can say is Harbaugh-recruited players whose college careers are over were far more likely to be in the NFL than players recruited by former coaches.
Just one time for the title.
I know y'all are being haters but point of fact: Michigan State credits transfer better than literally any other school. They get a lot of MSU transfers, and there's a lot of reciprocity between the school systems to convert each others' programs to credits at one or the other
https://mgoblog.com/category/tags/jaden-mangham
Some of you weren't reading my 2020 and 2021 recruiting posts and it shows. This was a "Sad Josh" recruitment. As Sam reiterated on the radio today, Michigan was coming in soft for Mangham as a WR/DB athlete, and Mel Tucker's staff started working hard when they came online. Meanwhile Michigan was prioritizing Zeke Berry, found Damani Dent outta nowhere, and were all in on Keon Sabb. They also were fighting MSU for Dillon Tatum, but could afford to lose that battle given the other guys they got.
Now that safety class is at Bama, Charlotte, and nickel, and Rod Moore is out for the year. I guess I'm the official MSU non-hater around here now but I find it ideal--whatever school Mangham went to--if Michigan can just go to the next guy they wanted and steal a starter off a rival.
As for whether there's room, ah yup. Add Sabb and Q-Jo's snaps together from last year and that's the role that's available. Brandyn Hillman came in super-raw but he might be pushing for snaps by the end of the year. The only guy after him is true freshman Oden, who's a better player than people realize but also a true freshman. I'd add Mangham to that group in a heartbeat.
I'd also use the next heartbeat to lament the broken bits from going into the offseason with Rod Moore, Makari Paige, and Keon Sabb as our rotation. That Moore injury may be the suckiest injury at Michigan since...Aidan Hutchinson in 2020? T-Wolf in 2010?
Scholarship players. Data are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kXyhlMo2Yzfgv9QGhnyeJp65DL9mUxF…
I said they exist, not that everyone's on one.
"NCAA fix this" is a strawman. Today's conversation was about how negotiations over a settlement in the House case are an opportunity that the NCAA hasn't had yet to be sitting across from somebody at the other end of the table who is representing player interests. They can't just get out of the lawsuit without presenting a plan, so they can actually create a plan! The problem before was they couldn't negotiate because there wasn't a negotiating partner, and won't be until the players have a union capable of collective bargaining on their behalf.
In RR's slight defense, Hoke's staff didn't do a great job developing guys that Rich Rod and his staff only got through their freshman and sophomore years (he arrived too late in 2008 to build much of a class). And Practicegate and 3-9 and all of that also dampened recruiting, so the bottom of his classes were a lot lower. RR also had a few more guys I might classify as good college player who weren't as valuable to the NFL. Like, we'd recruit Craig Roh, Roy Roundtree, Devin Gardner, and Kevin Koger again, but those guys never made an NFL roster.
But he still had a lot of whiffs. Draft picks:
Name
Round
Taylor Lewan
1st
Mike Martin
3rd
Michael Schofield
3rd
Jake Ryan
4th
Denard Robinson
5th
William Campbell
6th
Mike Cox
7th
Josh Furman
7th
Jeremy Gallon
7th
Jordan Kovacs
UDFA+
Kenny Demens
UDFA
Patrick Omameh
UDFA+
Richard Ash
UDFA+
Fitzgerald Toussaint
UDFA+
4+-stars who weren't drafted:
Devin Gardner
Darryl Stonum
Dann O'Neill
Craig Roh
Justin Turner
Demar Dorsey
Je'Ron Stokes
Boubacar Cissoko
Cullen Christian
J.B. Fitzgerald
Tate Forcier
Anthony LaLota
Quinton Washington
Sam McGuffie
Marcus Witherspoon
Brandon Smith
Ricky Barnum
Terrence Robinson
Brandon Moore
Michael Shaw
Kevin Koger
Marvin Robinson
Ricardo Miller
You're making this more dramatic than it is. Yes, I think Warde only half-assedly tried to keep Harbaugh, and that some of the regents were very frustrated by this. But that was happening before Jan 8. After Warde made him sign a cheap deal in 2020 Harbaugh was going to be looking to get back to the NFL. I said as much in HTTV last year. He was more likely to stick around for a NC, but after he won one, the only thing that made it possible for him to return was that the NCAA and Big Ten were doing everything they could to push him out the door.
It's a lot more than optics. Employment agreements exist in all fields of business because a company can't spend all of its time swapping and retraining employees. It behooves both parties to sign an agreement providing stability.
Also the system right now makes players choose between optimizing their value as athletes and receiving a complete education. This incentive structure is backwards, but does competitively benefit the SEC, Ohio State, and most of the G5 schools who aren't providing high-value educations for their athletes (even if the school itself is a good degree). Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, and a lot of high-academic schools that recruit on education have been fighting this at the NCAA level for years.
Just checked his RS status. He burned it both years (meaning he played in more than 4 regular season games). Last year it was 4 snaps against Nebraska that did it.
The portal is weird and unknowable, but taking a cornerback to Oxford MS for a semester then returning him a wide receiver is probably its strangest move yet.
my friend sent this to me with the obvious Ron Mexico joke.
Still "We." If you want to just go by direct ancestry everybody's from everywhere and nobody's from anywhere.
Still a big can of whoop-ass.
They're both home though? Clemons family lived in Michigan until he was like halfway through HS. Home for most of his life was Lansing. He was good friends with Andrel Anthony.
Priebe's at LG.
Don't see any issues?
I'm glad I'm not alone on pnc. They just have so many cool quirks to discover as well. Like fans walking by can see into the bullpen so if you are walking by the river before the game you might see Pedro Martinez warming up.