Right. And because Caddyshack is a fictional comedy film, the characters have made up names that are meant to be funny, you dumb fuck. And considering what fictional Mitch was expelled for in the fictional movie, the name was meant to be funny.
My joke apparently was not funny to a lot of people. However, the interpretation of it being racist is the dumb shit moronic thing. How in the flying fuck is it racist? Is semen racist? Or am I being racist to white people?
This board is mgolive these days. You and "remdog" are wonderful contributors to it being that way.
GOOD LORD TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS!
The joke involved a pearl necklace (a white object) and a poster named "CUMstein." (a made-up name poking fun at a white substance). With the emergence of the term "white privilege" and how it relates to this discussion, it was meant to be a JOKE. Nothing about race whatsoever.
How can you possibly construe this as racist? If I prayed enough, I would save a prayer for you and all others of your faux morally outraged mindset.
Good lord! It's a joke (albeit maybe a really bad one), not a comment! Do you think Mitch CUMstein is a real name?
I'm sure more than a few negs are because people found what I wrote politically or morally offensive. Welcome to MgoBlog these days.
Oh, and by the way. If even one other person (other than myself) upvotes my post, then your comment (not mine) is technically "unequivocally stupid." Because that would mean someone likes my post, which would negate your opinion that my post is "unequivocally stupid" (as in, absolutely no one liked my post)
There are a number of posters on this thread that don't post a lot but you'll find them in threads like this one trying to make UM look bad, probably as a way of defending Sparty from this, that and the other. "Esanch" is one of them. I think "jbrandimore" is less obvious but also a Sparty troll.
This story is not going to get the attention that Nassar or Sandusky's did. Sparties would tell you it's the old "Blue Wall" at work again. Right. It certainly wouldn't have anything to do with things like the magnitude of the abuse, the victim profiles or the fact that the perp has been dead for a long time. Oh no, it's gotta be the "Blue Wall." That damn Blue Wall stretches across the world and if it didn't exist, the public outrage over this story surely would have demanded it be on the front page of ESPN.
Thank God we have Tracy Wolfson and Dana Jacobson keeping the lid on this one. /s
EDIT: I just poked over to RCMB to confirm what I expected which is they have a thread about this "UM Football doctor investigated for multiple sex abuse complaints" that has 36,162 views and 834 comments at the time of this writing. Many of which are making the Blue Wall argument, crying for justice, etc. Do they really not know that this is exactly why they're Little Brother? If the general public really cared as much about this story, or the OSU doc that abused wrestlers for example, the story would blow up. It's not because there's a media conspiracy. Heck, I haven't even felt compelled to read either the UM or OSU doctor abuse stories because the crimes were dated and a lot of the victims were male athletes that you could argue were not as vulnerable.
People are just naturally more interested and empathetic about a story that spans two decades long involving the abuse of thousands of adolescent girls with a horrible cover-up that has university faculty resigning and trying to avoid jail time.
Probably already posted somewhere, but I couldn't help but pop over to RCMB after the floor slap. Takes a lot for them to figure out and admit when something isn't working for their team and school.
I wrote a post saying that maybe Teske didn't actually play well, and I just didn't see it because I was watching my kid, having a glass of wine, enjoying a blowout with lots of good defense in the paint and no Teske jacked up 3's (that I could remember seeing)...but then my computer froze and I couldn't send.
But here I am retyping it. I guess Teske didn't play well from the gist of this thread and I stand corrected.
I see the similarities, but for us older folks, "Big Country" will always be Bryant Reeves from Oklahoma State. Plus, it's kind of a recent Gus Johnson adaptation and I don't like him anymore because he gets too excited about OSU when we play them in football.
I didn't intend it to be a humblebrag but rather an acknowledgement that the majority of my posts are negative, almost always about the refs, and I was feeling overwhelmingly happy about the entire game -- the refs, Teske, Brooks, Simpson -- and I couldn't understand how anyone could take any aspect of this particular game to task.
But you're right about the disconnect. What does complaining about the refs have to do with complaining about Teske? I think I was just upset that the OP "jbrandimore," who ardently defended the refs in Michigan's 3 losses to MSU last year, was now saying bad things about Teske's performance. I remember telling jbrandimore last year after our 3rd loss to MSU to take a swim in the Detroit River with a heavy stack of signed Cassius Winston game programs because he couldn't help but profess his admiration for Winston and his ability to carry MSU to wins against us. And here he was complaining about Teske on a night we dominated.
I thought Teske played well. And I like Teske, even if he seems to be playing worse than he did in the Bahamas (and perhaps last year). I would take Teske over Davis and Castleton any day when it comes to minutes.
I think my original comment came from a place of wanting to show that I am not always negative, despite how my comments might come across. Tonight was a perfect example to show that I can be positive! (see exclamation point)
Are there any shrinks out there that could help me advance my self-analysis?
Wow, Stig, that's an amazingly positive interpretation of Capron's comments. Hopefully others will read that article and come to their own conclusions.
I'm not saying that Capron cannot have an opinion about Harbaugh's sideline behavior being childish (he's human after all), but this is/was THE BIG 10's MARQUEE REFEREE. For him to 'dis on Harbaugh and Michigan fans in a published interview, in which the only other negative things he has to say are about Bo Pelini and the Georgia fan base, neither of which are current members of the B10, is wrong on so many levels. He can harbor those feelings all he wants but to come out and say it during an interview with the Chicago Tribune? It's bullshit. It should be embarrassing for Bill Carollo and the B10 office.
Michigan fans "whine and cry" (your words) about the refereeing because it is atrocious and affects the outcome of games. Self-righteous dicks like you enable it to continue by trying to make people who point it out look like the unhinged ones.
Capron notes in the article that the lead line judge in the OSU-Michigan game from 2016 was from the state of Michigan.
"The head linesman — from the state of Michigan, not that it matters — (assessed the penalty). …"
By him pointing that out, he is acknowledging he knows there a lot of people who are rightfully pissed about several of the other refs being from the state of Ohio. Perhaps you didn't see the articles that people dug up on those Ohio refs where they had professed to being OSU fans growing up. As anyone who has lived in Ohio can attest, almost the entire state is unified around the Buckeyes because they are the only collegiate show in town. In Michigan, it is quite divided, which means a ref from the state of Michigan might not have grown up a fan of UM. For example, the ref that called the phantom hold on Higdon vs. NW two seasons back was from Western Michigan, and did not grow up a Michigan fan.
Why complain? Why waste time on this shit? Because when our fans laid it on John O'Neill and his crew after the bogus DPI during the ND game this year, in a way I have never seen before, I believe it made a difference in the way they officiated the rest of the game. We didn't continue to get screwed like we have in the past.
For fans to want to believe they can make some small difference is not ridiculous. It's part of being a fan, like making noise at a game. If an official does not like a coach or a fan base, as much as I would love to believe that he can still remain impartial, again, they are just humans after all. If you deep down do not like someone or a group of people, you are more likely not to give them the benefit of the doubt in a game of inches (e.g. a DPI call, first down spot, etc.)
When you are a fan of a team that gets screwed over the course of multiple decades, sure you could choose just to become apathetic. Or maybe you could try to do something about it. If the latter, collectively acknowledging the problem seems like a logical first step. Once you're over that hurdle you gotta figure out what to do with it next. Booing the heck out of specific individuals that consistently screw your team might make them think twice when a nationwide audience is watching.
I don't give a flying fuck that you think I am a whiner. Just like you don't care that I think you are a giant douchebag for attempting to reprimand fans who have had their fill of shitty, biased B10 refereeing and are trying to do something about it. When we stop regularly seeing shit like this week's ridiculous F1 on Simpson that cost us the game against OSU or yesterday's 17-2 FT advantage in favor of MSU, I will stop trying to track it and call it out.
In the meantime, fuck you for trying to make people like me feel bad about doing so.
Alludes to Harbaugh having the mindset of a 4th grader
...yet "He’s (Harbaugh) still not the worst coach."
Obviously also hates Michigan fans."You know, you were talking about the Michigan fan base. Well, they’re pikers compared to the Georgia fan base. I was getting emails, texts. It was ugly, vile."
Has respect for Meyer, Dantonio, most others in B10.
Seems like confirmation to me that he wasn't ever going to be doing UM any favors.
Links to the articles or videos that jog one's memory do help...
Joe Bolden bullshit targeting (it's the very end of the play where they call Bolden #35 when Cook is on the ground, not Desmond Morgan, #3 when he comes over the top). Shocker that John O'Neill was officiating this pivotal 2015 game in the Jim Harbaugh era.
"Michigan coach Red Berenson said he was not given a reason why Lynch's goal did not stand.
"That's a tough one to swallow," Berenson said. "There's a loose puck in the crease and the referee blew the whistle because he was calling a penalty on them and yet, we had control - or were about to have control - of the puck."
The disallowed goal was just part of a dominating overtime performance when the Wolverines - who appeared gassed for much of the third period - outshot Miami 20-6. Besides Lynch's controversial disallowed goal, Rust hit the crossbar with a shot - all part of a collection of chances the Wolverines had to end the game and move on to their 24th Frozen Four appearance."
Trey Burke making the cleanest, most beautiful block of a layup in NCAA history but gets whistled for a foul during a critical, end-of-game situation.
Gene Steratore taking an incredible 4 minutes and 25 seconds of review time to say that there was "indisputable evidence" that Purdue hit the ball off Matthews hand to give the game to Purdue, and take away any chance a 33 win Michigan team had of winning a regular season B10 championship.
These are just the iconic memorable screw jobs. There are many atrocious moments that are forgotten because they occurred in the early stages of games where the outcome would boil down to plays and possessions much later in the game.
Plays like the phantom Higdon hold or the fake DPI against ND:
These relatively insignificant bullshit calls against Michigan pre-populate in Google searches!
And will continue on. Look no further than last month when Juwan picked up his second technical foul of the season because he was fed up. This, following a two-game stretch where Michigan was on the other side of a FT attempt differential that totaled -27 (!) and 25 (!) in favor of Minnesota and Iowa respectively!
Of course that nothing compared to the -38 FT differential Michigan had to deal with vs. MSU in all 3 of its losses to them the year before. You know, the same year when referees Paul Szelc and Lewis Garrison ejected John Beilein for the first time in 4 decades because he raised two fingers at them for a blatant missed blocking call against Simpson at the end of first half of a game vs. PSU:
The "common sense crowd" always makes themselves feel better (and you and I to some extent) by saying, "yeah but, we should have shot the ball better, and if the receivers wouldn't have dropped so many passes, and if Michigan would have just buried that breakaway..."
Screw that shit. B10 officials hate UM. And yes, it did start with Bo calling Delaney a crook. That grudge has been passed along for 4 decades now. And will carry on as long as Delaney appointees like Bill Carollo and Rick Boyages are able to hire and assign the same cancerous group of B10 officials to our games.
Only way to stop it is to unify as a fanbase and boo the hell out of the officials until everyone notices and starts talking about it. Sadly, the names of "John O'Neill" and "Dan Capron" and "Terry Wymer" and "DJ Carstensen" and "Paul Szelc" and "Lewis Garrison" don't resonate with 95% of our fans who'd like to believe there is no bias because referring is something they cannot control.
Boo and boo often. Get salty. Don't give a shit what the "Michigan fans are whiners" and "you gotta play above it" crowd has to say.
Posted this on Carstensen thread on the Board. Forgot about Szelc, who had a major hand in the FT disparity in the MSU games last year.
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I've been saying it for a long time. Terry Wymer is a crook. Inducted into the State of Ohio Hall of Fame.
And the head of B10 basketball officiating, Rick Boyages was a former assistant coach for Ohio State.
In huge games that matter, Terry Wymer always shows up. Screwed us against Houston in the NCAA's but we overcame on the Poole buzzer beater. Screwed us at the end of the 1st Half against Villanova in the NC that year and we couldn't overcome. Him and Carstensen and Lewis Garrison and several others all regularly officiate games where Michigan gets screwed. Remember the huge FT differential against MSU last year in all 3 games.
That F1 decided the game tonight. In my decades of watching basketball, I've never seen that call before. In other words, they set a precedent with that call. That an offensive player, while in the act of shooting gets fouled, can somehow still commit an F1 while falling to the ground. That is unheard of... unthinkable.. impossible until tonight. Which should tell anyone watching this play, what a joke B10 officiating is when it comes to our games. Everyone should write [email protected] (and cc: WardeManuelAD@umich. edu) and tell Boyages to go f* himself. Obviously Warde ain't gonna do shit but if enough fans show the B10 office they're paying attention, maybe something will change. It cannot get worse.
If you don't think you can make a difference, remember when John O'Neill's crew called that incredibly awful DPI on Michigan in the ND football game last Fall and the entire stadium went nuts? Fans booing and throwing shit at the officials? Michigan fans knew that was the critical moment that their team has been regularly screwed by the officials in all sports over the years. That pivotal moment which turns the momentum back to the opposition in a game Michigan had been dominating. With the spotlight shining brightly on the crooks in zebra stripes, Michigan used that moment to turn things in their favor. They dominated ND after that.
The booing needs to become so great that the officials cannot hide and continue their B.S. antics. A few of you may remember the 1988 Class B Basketball state championship where the the state's Mr. Basketball, Matt Steigenga of GR's South Christian High School was whistled for 4 personal fouls in the first half of the state championship game. Most of the calls were bullshit. The boos rained down on the refs as they left the court at the end of the half because people had come to watch Steigenga and he and his team were getting screwed. The refs swallowed their whistle in the second half and Steigenga carried them to the championship. The fans made a difference.
Boo the f* out of Wymer, Carstensen, Garrison and all the assholes that keep screwing us. It can change. Don't let the BPONE convince you otherwise.
I've been saying it for a long time. Terry Wymer is a crook. Inducted into the State of Ohio Hall of Fame.
And the head of B10 basketball officiating, Rick Boyages was a former assistant coach for Ohio State.
In huge games that matter, Terry Wymer always shows up. Screwed us against Houston in the NCAA's but we overcame on the Poole buzzer beater. Screwed us at the end of the 1st Half against Villanova in the NC that year and we couldn't overcome. Him and Carstensen and Lewis Garrison and several others all regularly officiate games where Michigan gets screwed. Remember the huge FT differential against MSU last year in all 3 games.
That F1 decided the game tonight. In my decades of watching basketball, I've never seen that call before. In other words, they set a precedent with that call. That an offensive player, while in the act of shooting gets fouled, can somehow still commit an F1 while falling to the ground. That is unheard of... unthinkable.. impossible until tonight. Which should tell anyone watching this play, what a joke B10 officiating is when it comes to our games. Everyone should write [email protected] (and cc: WardeManuelAD@umich. edu) and tell Boyages to go f* himself. Obviously Warde ain't gonna do shit but if enough fans show the B10 office they're paying attention, maybe something will change. It cannot get worse.
If you don't think you can make a difference, remember when John O'Neill's crew called that incredibly awful DPI on Michigan in the ND football game last Fall and the entire stadium went nuts? Fans booing and throwing shit at the officials? Michigan fans knew that was the critical moment that their team has been regularly screwed by the officials in all sports over the years. That pivotal moment which turns the momentum back to the opposition in a game Michigan had been dominating. With the spotlight shining brightly on the crooks in zebra stripes, Michigan used that moment to turn things in their favor. They dominated ND after that.
The booing needs to become so great that the officials cannot hide and continue their B.S. antics. A few of you may remember the 1988 Class B Basketball state championship where the the state's Mr. Basketball, Matt Steigenga of GR's South Christian High School was whistled for 4 personal fouls in the first half of the state championship game. Most of the calls were bullshit. The boos rained down on the refs as they left the court at the end of the half because people had come to watch Steigenga and he and his team were getting screwed. The refs swallowed their whistle in the second half and Steigenga carried them to the championship. The fans made a difference.
Boo the f* out of Wymer, Carstensen, Garrison and all the assholes that keep screwing us. It can change. Don't let the BPONE convince you otherwise.
I don't watch Michigan games when Terry Wymer refs them. As I've said before, he's the B10's equivalent of John O'Neill to us. But it is interesting to read the increase in the usage of the word "ref" in posts as the game goes along.
How about this is MgoBlog and I'll take a roster that included Woodson, Griese, Brady, Hutchinson, Jon Jansen, Tai Streets, Dhani Jones, Jeff Backus, Ian Gold, Aaron Shea, Glen Steele, Jay Feely, Jerame Tuman, Sam Sword and Anthony Thomas.
How about that was the greatest college football team of All-time? We'll never know. But I'd bet on that team over anyone that came before or after.
Signed in just to upvote. Great post. Wholeheartedly agree. Following another Harbaugh defeat, we see 10 positive posts about how "Harbaugh haters" should consider this and that and how next year will be different. Blah blah blah. Supporting shit results has been the prevailing sentiment since I have been reading commenters on this blog and it dates back to 2003-2004. I had an account deleted by a Mod ("Mom" - maybe BiSB) a couple years into the Hoke-Borges debacle for being prematurely negative about how terrible they both were.
Dear Mom's. I am Pranta. I was the original pygmy marmoset. Re-activate my account so I can prove that all my early posts about Hoke & Borges turned out to be correct even though I had people like Mr. Rogers (avatar) telling me what a miserable person I was for being down on Hoke & Borges. It is for that reason that this Board is so painful to read often times.
Michigan vs. Illinois basketball in the Beilein era:
Overall: 16-7
Home: 7-1
Away: 4-5
B10 Tourney: 5-1
Points differential in games between Michigan & Illinois at State Farm Center (formerly Assembly Hall) is less than 1 on average.
In other words, this should come down to the wire and be a toss-up. Hoping for a win but not expecting one. Would be great for Juwan to win his first road game in the B10 but even Beilein lost his first 3 at Assembly Hall.
Michigan vs. Illinois basketball in the Beilein era:
Overall: 16-7
Home: 7-1
Away: 4-5
B10 Tourney: 5-1
Average points differential in games between Michigan & Illinois at State Farm Center (formerly Assembly Hall) is less than 1.
In other words, this should come down to the wire and be a toss-up. Hoping for a win but not expecting one. Won't be disappointed one bit if Juwan and team don't come out with a win. Will be really encouraging if he does win his first B10 contest on the road. Even Beilein lost his first 3 at Assembly Hall.
Smokescreen by the NFL to make people forget about the atrocious referee screw job last night by Jerome Boger and his crew. Two TD's taken away from the Pats. Terrible spot on a 3rd & 4 that cost Belichick a crucial Coach's Challenge. Blatant DPI at end of the game on Dorsett.
The NFL is becoming like the NBA in the 90's when the refs turned it into the WWF. When Brady retires, I won't watch another NFL game. Regardless of whether the officiating is rigged or just incompetent, it has made watching an NFL game painful.
If you read into Spygate and Deflategate enough, you will find both were bullshit.
Terry Wymer is the basketball equivalent of John O'Neill for us in the B10. He supplanted Gene Steratore when it comes to most cringe-worthy when you see him officiate one of our games.
Never forget that in the 2018 Nat Championship game he called Michigan for 9 fouls in an 8-minute stretch from the 12:06 point in the first half until 4:07. (Compared to Villanova getting called for 3 fouls in those 8 minutes) Michigan had a 7-point lead (21-14) which turned into a 9-point deficit by the end of the half (28-37). Michigan lost all rhythm as well as any momentum they came out with at the start.
Terry Wymer also officiated that horribly out-of-sync grinder game that we won against Houston in the same 2018 tourney on the miraculous Jordan Poole buzzer beater. Despite Michigan being ranked #26 in least amount of fouls per game and Houston being ranked #328 that year (2017-2018), we still managed to out-foul them 22-19.
Thank God that's the last time we ever have to see Jim Delaney on a B10 Football Championship podium. He soiled himself talking about OSU. Disgusting bunch there at the B10 office. Head of B10 officials for basketball is a former OSU asst coach (it's true, look it up).
Kind of feels that way. If we're being honest about it.
When UM beat Washington State in the 1998 Rose Bowl, I remember it being a feeling that I've never felt before in my lifetime. Perhaps never since.
Brooks, Johns and Wagner were, uhh... really not good tonight. But especially Johns (and why so much PT?). Simpson hurt us a lot more than he helped too. All around off night for everyone.
At least it didn't feel like the refs were jobbing us.
(EDIT: for those who don't think this game meant much, I don't disagree with you as it relates to the entirety of this particular season. But how many times has either our football or basketball teams been ranked #1 in the regular season in the last 25 years? You don't get too many cracks at that chance. It'd be nice to win one of those games).
Lloyd Carr most likely would have never been promoted to Head Coach if Moeller wouldn't have made an ass out of himself. He was Defensive Coordinator material at a Power 5 school, not Head Coach.
His offenses were boring, predictable and his teams often played to the level of his competition. When having to compete against teams with better coaching he often lost. Tressel owned him. His team was responsible for the most embarrassing loss in our program's history: Appalachian State.
He frequently underutilized talent and even pissed off Tom Brady so much, that he used that as motivation to become the greatest QB in NFL history. Belichick is on record saying that he couldn't understand why Brady's coaches at Michigan weren't saying better things about him prior to the Draft.
I don't understand why people cannot separate Lloyd Carr, the excellent man from Lloyd Carr, a mediocre to poor head football coach. And I don't give a shit if he was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. I watched every one of the games he coached and if Charles Woodson wouldn't have saved his butt in 1997, the program might be in a completely different and better spot than it is now.
People often forget that Harbaugh applied for the QB coach position at UM after his playing days were over but Carr gave the job to Loeffler instead. Scot fucking Loeffler has had atrocious results everywhere he is gone. Imagine getting a fiery, uninhibited Jim Harbaugh at the start of his prime, instead of giving it away to San Diego, Stanford and San Francisco? You can thank Lloyd for that too.
Let me get this straight. Maryland has beaten Holy Cross, Rhode Island, Oakland, Fairfield, George Mason, Temple (narrowly), Harvard (tight game) and Marquette.
And Maryland is ranked ahead of us? We have beaten UNC and Gonzaga as well as a good Creighton team (that just beat Texas Tech) and a decent Iowa State team that routed Alabama before narrowly losing to a good Seton Hall team that is ranked #16.
Stupid fucking AP voters. They got it so wrong in the pre-season, apparently by placing UM at #1 or #2 (where they belong), it would injure their pride too much.
You're probably right Don. The longevity of someone's profile on MgoBlog ultimately determines whether they could possibly have a reasonable take or know what they're talking about. Your 84,000 points are a badge of honor and something you must be truly proud about. Consider a custom t-shirt.
Lloyd Carr lost regularly to teams he shouldn't have. He offenses were stale and predictable. The fact that people look back on his tenure with fondness says more about how bad we have been since. He should have never risen to a level higher than Defensive Coordinator. His underutilization of Tom Brady -- the greatest QB in football history -- as well as the worst loss in program history (App State), and him being owned by Tressel speak more to Lloyd Carr's coaching ability than all of his so-called achievements, including 1997 when Charles Woodson (a Moeller recruit) carried the team on his back to the program's first National Championship in the modern era.
Carr was a great program ambassador. Not to be confused with a good coach.
Lloyd Carr lost regularly to teams he shouldn't have. He offenses were stale and predictable. The fact that people look back on his tenure with fondness says more about how bad we have been since.
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Right. And because Caddyshack is a fictional comedy film, the characters have made up names that are meant to be funny, you dumb fuck. And considering what fictional Mitch was expelled for in the fictional movie, the name was meant to be funny.
My joke apparently was not funny to a lot of people. However, the interpretation of it being racist is the dumb shit moronic thing. How in the flying fuck is it racist? Is semen racist? Or am I being racist to white people?
This board is mgolive these days. You and "remdog" are wonderful contributors to it being that way.
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RACIST? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
GOOD LORD TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS!
The joke involved a pearl necklace (a white object) and a poster named "CUMstein." (a made-up name poking fun at a white substance). With the emergence of the term "white privilege" and how it relates to this discussion, it was meant to be a JOKE. Nothing about race whatsoever.
How can you possibly construe this as racist? If I prayed enough, I would save a prayer for you and all others of your faux morally outraged mindset.
Good lord! It's a joke (albeit maybe a really bad one), not a comment! Do you think Mitch CUMstein is a real name?
I'm sure more than a few negs are because people found what I wrote politically or morally offensive. Welcome to MgoBlog these days.
Oh, and by the way. If even one other person (other than myself) upvotes my post, then your comment (not mine) is technically "unequivocally stupid." Because that would mean someone likes my post, which would negate your opinion that my post is "unequivocally stupid" (as in, absolutely no one liked my post)
Good questions Mitch. I got one for you.
What did the pearl necklace say to Mitch Cumstein? Check your white privilege.
Incredible highlights (only missing where he made the last 3 FT's to force OT)
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28833097
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Is that…
vs. Wisconsin.
Is that Lewis Garrison?
There are a number of posters on this thread that don't post a lot but you'll find them in threads like this one trying to make UM look bad, probably as a way of defending Sparty from this, that and the other. "Esanch" is one of them. I think "jbrandimore" is less obvious but also a Sparty troll.
This story is not going to get the attention that Nassar or Sandusky's did. Sparties would tell you it's the old "Blue Wall" at work again. Right. It certainly wouldn't have anything to do with things like the magnitude of the abuse, the victim profiles or the fact that the perp has been dead for a long time. Oh no, it's gotta be the "Blue Wall." That damn Blue Wall stretches across the world and if it didn't exist, the public outrage over this story surely would have demanded it be on the front page of ESPN.
Thank God we have Tracy Wolfson and Dana Jacobson keeping the lid on this one. /s
EDIT: I just poked over to RCMB to confirm what I expected which is they have a thread about this "UM Football doctor investigated for multiple sex abuse complaints" that has 36,162 views and 834 comments at the time of this writing. Many of which are making the Blue Wall argument, crying for justice, etc. Do they really not know that this is exactly why they're Little Brother? If the general public really cared as much about this story, or the OSU doc that abused wrestlers for example, the story would blow up. It's not because there's a media conspiracy. Heck, I haven't even felt compelled to read either the UM or OSU doctor abuse stories because the crimes were dated and a lot of the victims were male athletes that you could argue were not as vulnerable.
People are just naturally more interested and empathetic about a story that spans two decades long involving the abuse of thousands of adolescent girls with a horrible cover-up that has university faculty resigning and trying to avoid jail time.
MSU has a corner on the perv and perj markets.
And here I was starting to like ASU after what they did to ranked Sparty teams in back-to-back years.
Probably already posted somewhere, but I couldn't help but pop over to RCMB after the floor slap. Takes a lot for them to figure out and admit when something isn't working for their team and school.
https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/board/93/Contents/stop-slapping-the-phucking-floor-143863662/
Abby Snyder has a bright future in the field of sports journalism.
Austin Davis is the most improved player on the team. Upvote my ass if you agree, and downvote Michigan Stan's post above to drive home the point.
I wrote a post saying that maybe Teske didn't actually play well, and I just didn't see it because I was watching my kid, having a glass of wine, enjoying a blowout with lots of good defense in the paint and no Teske jacked up 3's (that I could remember seeing)...but then my computer froze and I couldn't send.
But here I am retyping it. I guess Teske didn't play well from the gist of this thread and I stand corrected.
Still love ya Big Sleep.
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Ace, love your writing.
I see the similarities, but for us older folks, "Big Country" will always be Bryant Reeves from Oklahoma State. Plus, it's kind of a recent Gus Johnson adaptation and I don't like him anymore because he gets too excited about OSU when we play them in football.
I didn't intend it to be a humblebrag but rather an acknowledgement that the majority of my posts are negative, almost always about the refs, and I was feeling overwhelmingly happy about the entire game -- the refs, Teske, Brooks, Simpson -- and I couldn't understand how anyone could take any aspect of this particular game to task.
But you're right about the disconnect. What does complaining about the refs have to do with complaining about Teske? I think I was just upset that the OP "jbrandimore," who ardently defended the refs in Michigan's 3 losses to MSU last year, was now saying bad things about Teske's performance. I remember telling jbrandimore last year after our 3rd loss to MSU to take a swim in the Detroit River with a heavy stack of signed Cassius Winston game programs because he couldn't help but profess his admiration for Winston and his ability to carry MSU to wins against us. And here he was complaining about Teske on a night we dominated.
I thought Teske played well. And I like Teske, even if he seems to be playing worse than he did in the Bahamas (and perhaps last year). I would take Teske over Davis and Castleton any day when it comes to minutes.
I think my original comment came from a place of wanting to show that I am not always negative, despite how my comments might come across. Tonight was a perfect example to show that I can be positive! (see exclamation point)
Are there any shrinks out there that could help me advance my self-analysis?
Or how about, it doesn't need to be said?
I complain all the time on here (about the refs), but not a peep tonight. Great team win all around! Enjoy it.
Wow, Stig, that's an amazingly positive interpretation of Capron's comments. Hopefully others will read that article and come to their own conclusions.
I'm not saying that Capron cannot have an opinion about Harbaugh's sideline behavior being childish (he's human after all), but this is/was THE BIG 10's MARQUEE REFEREE. For him to 'dis on Harbaugh and Michigan fans in a published interview, in which the only other negative things he has to say are about Bo Pelini and the Georgia fan base, neither of which are current members of the B10, is wrong on so many levels. He can harbor those feelings all he wants but to come out and say it during an interview with the Chicago Tribune? It's bullshit. It should be embarrassing for Bill Carollo and the B10 office.
Michigan fans "whine and cry" (your words) about the refereeing because it is atrocious and affects the outcome of games. Self-righteous dicks like you enable it to continue by trying to make people who point it out look like the unhinged ones.
Capron notes in the article that the lead line judge in the OSU-Michigan game from 2016 was from the state of Michigan.
"The head linesman — from the state of Michigan, not that it matters — (assessed the penalty). …"
By him pointing that out, he is acknowledging he knows there a lot of people who are rightfully pissed about several of the other refs being from the state of Ohio. Perhaps you didn't see the articles that people dug up on those Ohio refs where they had professed to being OSU fans growing up. As anyone who has lived in Ohio can attest, almost the entire state is unified around the Buckeyes because they are the only collegiate show in town. In Michigan, it is quite divided, which means a ref from the state of Michigan might not have grown up a fan of UM. For example, the ref that called the phantom hold on Higdon vs. NW two seasons back was from Western Michigan, and did not grow up a Michigan fan.
Why complain? Why waste time on this shit? Because when our fans laid it on John O'Neill and his crew after the bogus DPI during the ND game this year, in a way I have never seen before, I believe it made a difference in the way they officiated the rest of the game. We didn't continue to get screwed like we have in the past.
For fans to want to believe they can make some small difference is not ridiculous. It's part of being a fan, like making noise at a game. If an official does not like a coach or a fan base, as much as I would love to believe that he can still remain impartial, again, they are just humans after all. If you deep down do not like someone or a group of people, you are more likely not to give them the benefit of the doubt in a game of inches (e.g. a DPI call, first down spot, etc.)
When you are a fan of a team that gets screwed over the course of multiple decades, sure you could choose just to become apathetic. Or maybe you could try to do something about it. If the latter, collectively acknowledging the problem seems like a logical first step. Once you're over that hurdle you gotta figure out what to do with it next. Booing the heck out of specific individuals that consistently screw your team might make them think twice when a nationwide audience is watching.
I don't give a flying fuck that you think I am a whiner. Just like you don't care that I think you are a giant douchebag for attempting to reprimand fans who have had their fill of shitty, biased B10 refereeing and are trying to do something about it. When we stop regularly seeing shit like this week's ridiculous F1 on Simpson that cost us the game against OSU or yesterday's 17-2 FT advantage in favor of MSU, I will stop trying to track it and call it out.
In the meantime, fuck you for trying to make people like me feel bad about doing so.
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Interesting read...
Retiring B1G ref, Dan Capron -- the head ref of the UM-OSU game in 2016 - did an exit interview with the Chicago Tribune.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-dan-capron-big-ten-referee-20200208-k4s5uw4iujb5naot76qjj2eufe-story.html
Has respect for Meyer, Dantonio, most others in B10.
Seems like confirmation to me that he wasn't ever going to be doing UM any favors.
Links to the articles or videos that jog one's memory do help...
Joe Bolden bullshit targeting (it's the very end of the play where they call Bolden #35 when Cook is on the ground, not Desmond Morgan, #3 when he comes over the top). Shocker that John O'Neill was officiating this pivotal 2015 game in the Jim Harbaugh era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4f0U7xnkiQ
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/10/17/controversy-as-michigans-joe-bolden-is-ejected-for-targeting-michigan-states-connor-cook/
https://twitter.com/YahooSportsCFB/status/655483025040494592
Junior Hemingway catch (definitely a catch):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwa7WcRx_G4
DPJ catch ruled incomplete (it's close but left foot looks down):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEd7NP_2Ka0
Oops. 3 decades of screw jobs. Feels like 4 though.
Desmond…
So true my friend.
Desmond getting blatantly tripped in the end zone with a #1 ranking on the line.
http://umgoblue.com/Old/HTML/Football/90/90UMMSU.htm
Spartan Bob giving MSU an extra second to throw the game winning TD.
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2014/10/24/spartan-bob-michigan-state-michigan/17818671/
Referee John Gravelese whistling dead an OT goal by Michigan that would have sent them to the Frozen Four over Miami.
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-hockey-teams-run-ends-in-3-2-double-overtime-playoff-loss-to-miami-ohio/
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/i-have-friend-who-hockey-east-referee
"Michigan coach Red Berenson said he was not given a reason why Lynch's goal did not stand.
"That's a tough one to swallow," Berenson said. "There's a loose puck in the crease and the referee blew the whistle because he was calling a penalty on them and yet, we had control - or were about to have control - of the puck."
The disallowed goal was just part of a dominating overtime performance when the Wolverines - who appeared gassed for much of the third period - outshot Miami 20-6. Besides Lynch's controversial disallowed goal, Rust hit the crossbar with a shot - all part of a collection of chances the Wolverines had to end the game and move on to their 24th Frozen Four appearance."
Trey Burke making the cleanest, most beautiful block of a layup in NCAA history but gets whistled for a foul during a critical, end-of-game situation.
www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2013/4/9/4204318/final-four-2013-louisville-referee
The OSU-Michigan "Spot Game" and overall screw job in 2016 at the Shoe
www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/11/26/michigan-football-harbaugh/94481220/
Gene Steratore taking an incredible 4 minutes and 25 seconds of review time to say that there was "indisputable evidence" that Purdue hit the ball off Matthews hand to give the game to Purdue, and take away any chance a 33 win Michigan team had of winning a regular season B10 championship.
www.mlive.com/wolverines/2018/01/inside_the_final_seconds_of_mi.html
These are just the iconic memorable screw jobs. There are many atrocious moments that are forgotten because they occurred in the early stages of games where the outcome would boil down to plays and possessions much later in the game.
Plays like the phantom Higdon hold or the fake DPI against ND:
www.mlive.com/wolverines/2018/10/jim_harbaugh_big_ten_admitted_1.html
https://sportsnaut.com/2019/10/watch-bogus-pass-interference-call-negates-michigan-int-leads-to-notre-dame-td/
or the overturned Ronnie Bell catch:
www.12up.com/posts/video-refs-totally-screwed-michigan-with-bogus-incomplete-pass-call-against-wisconsin-01dnadf4n8hz
These relatively insignificant bullshit calls against Michigan pre-populate in Google searches!
And will continue on. Look no further than last month when Juwan picked up his second technical foul of the season because he was fed up. This, following a two-game stretch where Michigan was on the other side of a FT attempt differential that totaled -27 (!) and 25 (!) in favor of Minnesota and Iowa respectively!
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2020/01/18/michigans-juwan-howard-foul-disparity-iowa-its-very-frustrating/4512880002/
Of course that nothing compared to the -38 FT differential Michigan had to deal with vs. MSU in all 3 of its losses to them the year before. You know, the same year when referees Paul Szelc and Lewis Garrison ejected John Beilein for the first time in 4 decades because he raised two fingers at them for a blatant missed blocking call against Simpson at the end of first half of a game vs. PSU:
https://twitter.com/bigtennetwork/status/1095510426417274881?lang=en
It's fucked up people. Wake the fuck up.
The "common sense crowd" always makes themselves feel better (and you and I to some extent) by saying, "yeah but, we should have shot the ball better, and if the receivers wouldn't have dropped so many passes, and if Michigan would have just buried that breakaway..."
Screw that shit. B10 officials hate UM. And yes, it did start with Bo calling Delaney a crook. That grudge has been passed along for 4 decades now. And will carry on as long as Delaney appointees like Bill Carollo and Rick Boyages are able to hire and assign the same cancerous group of B10 officials to our games.
www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1990-08-16-9003080807-story.html
www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-01-12-sp-489-story.html
Only way to stop it is to unify as a fanbase and boo the hell out of the officials until everyone notices and starts talking about it. Sadly, the names of "John O'Neill" and "Dan Capron" and "Terry Wymer" and "DJ Carstensen" and "Paul Szelc" and "Lewis Garrison" don't resonate with 95% of our fans who'd like to believe there is no bias because referring is something they cannot control.
Boo and boo often. Get salty. Don't give a shit what the "Michigan fans are whiners" and "you gotta play above it" crowd has to say.
Posted this on Carstensen thread on the Board. Forgot about Szelc, who had a major hand in the FT disparity in the MSU games last year.
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I've been saying it for a long time. Terry Wymer is a crook. Inducted into the State of Ohio Hall of Fame.
And the head of B10 basketball officiating, Rick Boyages was a former assistant coach for Ohio State.
In huge games that matter, Terry Wymer always shows up. Screwed us against Houston in the NCAA's but we overcame on the Poole buzzer beater. Screwed us at the end of the 1st Half against Villanova in the NC that year and we couldn't overcome. Him and Carstensen and Lewis Garrison and several others all regularly officiate games where Michigan gets screwed. Remember the huge FT differential against MSU last year in all 3 games.
That F1 decided the game tonight. In my decades of watching basketball, I've never seen that call before. In other words, they set a precedent with that call. That an offensive player, while in the act of shooting gets fouled, can somehow still commit an F1 while falling to the ground. That is unheard of... unthinkable.. impossible until tonight. Which should tell anyone watching this play, what a joke B10 officiating is when it comes to our games. Everyone should write [email protected] (and cc: WardeManuelAD@umich. edu) and tell Boyages to go f* himself. Obviously Warde ain't gonna do shit but if enough fans show the B10 office they're paying attention, maybe something will change. It cannot get worse.
If you don't think you can make a difference, remember when John O'Neill's crew called that incredibly awful DPI on Michigan in the ND football game last Fall and the entire stadium went nuts? Fans booing and throwing shit at the officials? Michigan fans knew that was the critical moment that their team has been regularly screwed by the officials in all sports over the years. That pivotal moment which turns the momentum back to the opposition in a game Michigan had been dominating. With the spotlight shining brightly on the crooks in zebra stripes, Michigan used that moment to turn things in their favor. They dominated ND after that.
The booing needs to become so great that the officials cannot hide and continue their B.S. antics. A few of you may remember the 1988 Class B Basketball state championship where the the state's Mr. Basketball, Matt Steigenga of GR's South Christian High School was whistled for 4 personal fouls in the first half of the state championship game. Most of the calls were bullshit. The boos rained down on the refs as they left the court at the end of the half because people had come to watch Steigenga and he and his team were getting screwed. The refs swallowed their whistle in the second half and Steigenga carried them to the championship. The fans made a difference.
Boo the f* out of Wymer, Carstensen, Garrison and all the assholes that keep screwing us. It can change. Don't let the BPONE convince you otherwise.
I've been saying it for a long time. Terry Wymer is a crook. Inducted into the State of Ohio Hall of Fame.
And the head of B10 basketball officiating, Rick Boyages was a former assistant coach for Ohio State.
In huge games that matter, Terry Wymer always shows up. Screwed us against Houston in the NCAA's but we overcame on the Poole buzzer beater. Screwed us at the end of the 1st Half against Villanova in the NC that year and we couldn't overcome. Him and Carstensen and Lewis Garrison and several others all regularly officiate games where Michigan gets screwed. Remember the huge FT differential against MSU last year in all 3 games.
That F1 decided the game tonight. In my decades of watching basketball, I've never seen that call before. In other words, they set a precedent with that call. That an offensive player, while in the act of shooting gets fouled, can somehow still commit an F1 while falling to the ground. That is unheard of... unthinkable.. impossible until tonight. Which should tell anyone watching this play, what a joke B10 officiating is when it comes to our games. Everyone should write [email protected] (and cc: WardeManuelAD@umich. edu) and tell Boyages to go f* himself. Obviously Warde ain't gonna do shit but if enough fans show the B10 office they're paying attention, maybe something will change. It cannot get worse.
If you don't think you can make a difference, remember when John O'Neill's crew called that incredibly awful DPI on Michigan in the ND football game last Fall and the entire stadium went nuts? Fans booing and throwing shit at the officials? Michigan fans knew that was the critical moment that their team has been regularly screwed by the officials in all sports over the years. That pivotal moment which turns the momentum back to the opposition in a game Michigan had been dominating. With the spotlight shining brightly on the crooks in zebra stripes, Michigan used that moment to turn things in their favor. They dominated ND after that.
The booing needs to become so great that the officials cannot hide and continue their B.S. antics. A few of you may remember the 1988 Class B Basketball state championship where the the state's Mr. Basketball, Matt Steigenga of GR's South Christian High School was whistled for 4 personal fouls in the first half of the state championship game. Most of the calls were bullshit. The boos rained down on the refs as they left the court at the end of the half because people had come to watch Steigenga and he and his team were getting screwed. The refs swallowed their whistle in the second half and Steigenga carried them to the championship. The fans made a difference.
Boo the f* out of Wymer, Carstensen, Garrison and all the assholes that keep screwing us. It can change. Don't let the BPONE convince you otherwise.
I don't watch Michigan games when Terry Wymer refs them. As I've said before, he's the B10's equivalent of John O'Neill to us. But it is interesting to read the increase in the usage of the word "ref" in posts as the game goes along.
Who the hell knows? Stupid subjective questions.
How about this is MgoBlog and I'll take a roster that included Woodson, Griese, Brady, Hutchinson, Jon Jansen, Tai Streets, Dhani Jones, Jeff Backus, Ian Gold, Aaron Shea, Glen Steele, Jay Feely, Jerame Tuman, Sam Sword and Anthony Thomas.
How about that was the greatest college football team of All-time? We'll never know. But I'd bet on that team over anyone that came before or after.
Signed in just to upvote. Great post. Wholeheartedly agree. Following another Harbaugh defeat, we see 10 positive posts about how "Harbaugh haters" should consider this and that and how next year will be different. Blah blah blah. Supporting shit results has been the prevailing sentiment since I have been reading commenters on this blog and it dates back to 2003-2004. I had an account deleted by a Mod ("Mom" - maybe BiSB) a couple years into the Hoke-Borges debacle for being prematurely negative about how terrible they both were.
Dear Mom's. I am Pranta. I was the original pygmy marmoset. Re-activate my account so I can prove that all my early posts about Hoke & Borges turned out to be correct even though I had people like Mr. Rogers (avatar) telling me what a miserable person I was for being down on Hoke & Borges. It is for that reason that this Board is so painful to read often times.
"Feels like they've been in the bonus for 10 minutes... they've made a living on the line" - Robbie Hummel
Lewis Garrison, Keith Kimble and Bo Borowski take a bow.
Of course we only get terrible camera angles on these out-of-bounds plays when it could reverse a call in our favor.
Lewis Garrison meet karma.
Michigan vs. Illinois basketball in the Beilein era:
Overall: 16-7
Home: 7-1
Away: 4-5
B10 Tourney: 5-1
Points differential in games between Michigan & Illinois at State Farm Center (formerly Assembly Hall) is less than 1 on average.
In other words, this should come down to the wire and be a toss-up. Hoping for a win but not expecting one. Would be great for Juwan to win his first road game in the B10 but even Beilein lost his first 3 at Assembly Hall.
Go Blue!
Michigan vs. Illinois basketball in the Beilein era:
Overall: 16-7
Home: 7-1
Away: 4-5
B10 Tourney: 5-1
Average points differential in games between Michigan & Illinois at State Farm Center (formerly Assembly Hall) is less than 1.
In other words, this should come down to the wire and be a toss-up. Hoping for a win but not expecting one. Won't be disappointed one bit if Juwan and team don't come out with a win. Will be really encouraging if he does win his first B10 contest on the road. Even Beilein lost his first 3 at Assembly Hall.
Go Blue!
Smokescreen by the NFL to make people forget about the atrocious referee screw job last night by Jerome Boger and his crew. Two TD's taken away from the Pats. Terrible spot on a 3rd & 4 that cost Belichick a crucial Coach's Challenge. Blatant DPI at end of the game on Dorsett.
www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/controversial-calls-patriots-chiefs-signify-larger-issue-nfl-officiating
The NFL is becoming like the NBA in the 90's when the refs turned it into the WWF. When Brady retires, I won't watch another NFL game. Regardless of whether the officiating is rigged or just incompetent, it has made watching an NFL game painful.
If you read into Spygate and Deflategate enough, you will find both were bullshit.
"The Truth About Spygate: Punishing Success and Promoting Parity" https://bleacherreport.com/articles/199345-the-truth-about-spygate-punishing-success-and-promoting-parity
"MIT Professor Debunks Deflategate" (of course Brady went on to play in the next 3 Super Bowls)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxXsEltyas
Terry Wymer is the basketball equivalent of John O'Neill for us in the B10. He supplanted Gene Steratore when it comes to most cringe-worthy when you see him officiate one of our games.
Never forget that in the 2018 Nat Championship game he called Michigan for 9 fouls in an 8-minute stretch from the 12:06 point in the first half until 4:07. (Compared to Villanova getting called for 3 fouls in those 8 minutes) Michigan had a 7-point lead (21-14) which turned into a 9-point deficit by the end of the half (28-37). Michigan lost all rhythm as well as any momentum they came out with at the start.
Terry Wymer also officiated that horribly out-of-sync grinder game that we won against Houston in the same 2018 tourney on the miraculous Jordan Poole buzzer beater. Despite Michigan being ranked #26 in least amount of fouls per game and Houston being ranked #328 that year (2017-2018), we still managed to out-foul them 22-19.
Terry Wymer is from the state of Ohio, is a member of the Ohio basketball Hall of Fame (https://ohiobasketballhalloffame.com/hall-of-fame/inductees/2018/terry-…) and had several run-in's with Beilein that were well-documented.
Officiating sways games.
Thank God that's the last time we ever have to see Jim Delaney on a B10 Football Championship podium. He soiled himself talking about OSU. Disgusting bunch there at the B10 office. Head of B10 officials for basketball is a former OSU asst coach (it's true, look it up).
Thanks for sharing that research WD. I'm curious who was the #1 team we beat and when? Maybe Duke at Crisler? (too lazy to look up)
This is incredible. I enjoy this clip immensely.
Kind of feels that way. If we're being honest about it.
When UM beat Washington State in the 1998 Rose Bowl, I remember it being a feeling that I've never felt before in my lifetime. Perhaps never since.
Brooks, Johns and Wagner were, uhh... really not good tonight. But especially Johns (and why so much PT?). Simpson hurt us a lot more than he helped too. All around off night for everyone.
At least it didn't feel like the refs were jobbing us.
(EDIT: for those who don't think this game meant much, I don't disagree with you as it relates to the entirety of this particular season. But how many times has either our football or basketball teams been ranked #1 in the regular season in the last 25 years? You don't get too many cracks at that chance. It'd be nice to win one of those games).
Lloyd Carr most likely would have never been promoted to Head Coach if Moeller wouldn't have made an ass out of himself. He was Defensive Coordinator material at a Power 5 school, not Head Coach.
His offenses were boring, predictable and his teams often played to the level of his competition. When having to compete against teams with better coaching he often lost. Tressel owned him. His team was responsible for the most embarrassing loss in our program's history: Appalachian State.
He frequently underutilized talent and even pissed off Tom Brady so much, that he used that as motivation to become the greatest QB in NFL history. Belichick is on record saying that he couldn't understand why Brady's coaches at Michigan weren't saying better things about him prior to the Draft.
I don't understand why people cannot separate Lloyd Carr, the excellent man from Lloyd Carr, a mediocre to poor head football coach. And I don't give a shit if he was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. I watched every one of the games he coached and if Charles Woodson wouldn't have saved his butt in 1997, the program might be in a completely different and better spot than it is now.
People often forget that Harbaugh applied for the QB coach position at UM after his playing days were over but Carr gave the job to Loeffler instead. Scot fucking Loeffler has had atrocious results everywhere he is gone. Imagine getting a fiery, uninhibited Jim Harbaugh at the start of his prime, instead of giving it away to San Diego, Stanford and San Francisco? You can thank Lloyd for that too.
Right. That would be really helpful in combatting the groupthink that has made this board an insufferable echo chamber over the years.
Let me get this straight. Maryland has beaten Holy Cross, Rhode Island, Oakland, Fairfield, George Mason, Temple (narrowly), Harvard (tight game) and Marquette.
And Maryland is ranked ahead of us? We have beaten UNC and Gonzaga as well as a good Creighton team (that just beat Texas Tech) and a decent Iowa State team that routed Alabama before narrowly losing to a good Seton Hall team that is ranked #16.
Stupid fucking AP voters. They got it so wrong in the pre-season, apparently by placing UM at #1 or #2 (where they belong), it would injure their pride too much.
You're probably right Don. The longevity of someone's profile on MgoBlog ultimately determines whether they could possibly have a reasonable take or know what they're talking about. Your 84,000 points are a badge of honor and something you must be truly proud about. Consider a custom t-shirt.
You aren't a "Tom Brady fan" as you proclaim.
NO ONE who is a true Brady fan aligns themselves with Max Kellerman.
I GIVE YOU MY DEEPEST, DEEPEST "FUCK OFF" THAT ONE MAN CAN COMMUNICATE TO ANOTHER.
FUCK YOURSELF. AND FUCK OFF.
You are not worthy to even type Tom Brady's name, much less disparage it.
Tom Brady is the best thing that has happened to Michigan Football in the past two decades.
Good post. Agree with this take.
Agreed. Well said.
I think we will win. However, if we should lose, that decision by Harbaugh to punt there is notable.
Apparently Uche muscle flex is okay because Dan Capron not officiating the game.
Alert: Referee crew who called the phantom Higdon holding penalty last year against NW.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L-X-aL5K4s
This could only happen in a game officiated by John O'Neill. Yet they still assigned him to the ND game this year.
Lloyd Carr lost regularly to teams he shouldn't have. He offenses were stale and predictable. The fact that people look back on his tenure with fondness says more about how bad we have been since. He should have never risen to a level higher than Defensive Coordinator. His underutilization of Tom Brady -- the greatest QB in football history -- as well as the worst loss in program history (App State), and him being owned by Tressel speak more to Lloyd Carr's coaching ability than all of his so-called achievements, including 1997 when Charles Woodson (a Moeller recruit) carried the team on his back to the program's first National Championship in the modern era.
Carr was a great program ambassador. Not to be confused with a good coach.
Lloyd Carr lost regularly to teams he shouldn't have. He offenses were stale and predictable. The fact that people look back on his tenure with fondness says more about how bad we have been since.