Thanks to those who serve

Submitted by Wendyk5 on May 27th, 2019 at 10:45 AM

I know there are many on this board who serve in the armed forces. Thank you for your service. And thank you to the many who have given their lives, and whose families who have lost loved ones. You have all made the ultimate sacrifice. 

StirredNotShaken

May 27th, 2019 at 10:53 AM ^

I'll second this emotion. Spent time in Gettysburg and also visited various memorials in D.C. this weekend with the kids. Provides really great perspective on life. Let's hope this thread doesn't get bombed by political comments like a similar thread did last Memorial Day. 

NFG

May 27th, 2019 at 10:56 AM ^

Thank you. Today I think of my Grandpa, who was a PFC in the Army, in one of the few Army Field Artillery Battalions providing fire support for the Marines. Pivoting to my service, I think of SPC Walker of Ohio and SPC Cornado of California who served under me, but who are no longer with us.

harmon40

May 27th, 2019 at 11:10 AM ^

I play the trumpet and was asked to play taps yesterday for a Sunday school class of seniors, which included 20 or so vets.

Afterward a 93 year old gentleman approached me to say hello. He’d been a machine gunner on a B-17 and flew 50 missions in Europe. 50!!

I said “I thought the limit was 20 missions due to combat stress!”

He said “That was established well after I’d been flying for quite a while, and anyway we had a terrible shortage of qualified people to go up.”

He got shot down in Yugoslavia, survived a crash landing, made it to friendly forces, and was returned to service immediately upon having been safely returned to US forces. No rest for the weary.

Thank God for our vets

The Man Down T…

May 27th, 2019 at 2:05 PM ^

I understand, and in some way agree with, this sentiment.  I question some (several) of the battles that we send them off to. God Bless them for going and and in the case of what we celebrate today, giving their lives so we can live our lives in relative peace.  They are far braver and stronger people than I could ever be.  

Roanman

May 27th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^

Here's a couple other emotional responses from vets who served in combat zones.

“My husband is a paraplegic and can’t control 3/4 of his body now. Me, I’ve got PTSD, an anxiety disorder, two messed up knees, depression, a bad back, tinnitus, and chronic insomnia. I wish both had never served.”

“I spent ten years in the military. I worked 15 hour days to make sure my troops were taken care of. In return for my hard work I was rewarded with three military members raping me. I was never promoted to a rank that made a difference. And I have an attempt at suicide. Fuck you!”

“My best childhood friend lost his mind after his time in the marines and now he lives in a closet in his moms house and can barely hold a conversation with anyone. He only smokes weed and drinks cough syrup that he steals since he can’t hold a job.”

“Recently attended the funeral for a west point grad with a 4yr old and a 7yr old daughter because he blew his face off to escape his ptsd but thats nothing new.”

“My best friend from high school was denied his mental health treatment and forced to return to a third tour in Iraq, despite having such deep trauma that he could barely function. He took a handful of sleeping pills and shot himself in the head two weeks before deploying.”

“Well, my father got deployed to Iraq and came back a completely different person. Couldn’t even work the same job he had been working 20 years before that because of his anxiety and PTSD. He had nightmares, got easily violent and has terrible depression. But the army just handed him pills, now he is 100% disabled and is on a shit ton of medication. He has nightmares every night, paces the house barely sleeping, checking every room just to make sure everyone’s safe. He’s had multiple friends commit suicide.”

“I was #USNavy, my husband was #USArmy, he served in Bosnia and Iraq and that nice, shy, funny guy was gone, replaced with a withdrawn, angry man … he committed suicide a few years later…when I’m thanked for my service, I just nod.”

That's not even the reflection of the tiniest part of the tip of the iceberg. But you go on thinking about your swell gratitude for their service once a year in a post on your favorite internet site while simultaneously citing yourself for being a caring human being.

There is an incredible homeless and mental health problem across the warmer parts of this country, a significant percentage of the people living in canvass shelters and rickety tents are veterans, most of them hooked on opioids they started on to control pain, both physical and mental the cause of which is this country's interminable appetite for war.

The last time anybody on the left or the right even made the tiniest effort to protect the people who sign up to protect us, came after Bush deployed our troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, that shit went away of course when Obama was elected as it seems Dems only hate war when it's a sitting Republican president fucking up people's lives. Shame on all of civilian America for the murder we do around this world both to others and our best kids.

Finally, the only solution to this horror is to reinstate the draft. In so doing you remove that well insulated cocoon of safety that protects the best families in America from these horrors. And yeah, yeah, Georgie Bush beat the draft cause he had a rich daddy, but people noticed and started asking themselves, "Wait a minute, if these assholes telling us how we need to fight this war in order to preserve our freedom are dodging their responsibility here, maybe this thing isn't really about what they say it is."

Because it never is.

I'mTheStig

May 27th, 2019 at 6:44 PM ^

It was 25 missions.

They just didn't always tell flight crews that.

My grandfather was in the daylight bombing raids over Germany and after he got shot down for the second time, and got smuggled back to England with the help of resistance fighters, the Army finally let him know he was over his 25 and eligible to go home.

xtramelanin

May 27th, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^

God bless our vets and may he bless the families of those that gave their lives, which is the real focus of today.  i am posting this memorial video sent to me today by one of my favorite vets, a USMC sgt who served in korea and worked with me as my investigator back in the day.  warning, unless you are a sociopath your room will get at least slightly dusty while watching this short video, but it's worth it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZHTE1jMXg

Rodriguesqe

May 27th, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^

Late to the party - you should have mentioned that you voted for "I prefer the soldiers who didn't get captured".

I respect all troops myself, even the ones who were captured or killed. I'll pray you learn to some day as well.

Heptarch

May 27th, 2019 at 3:04 PM ^

You're welcome. I give thanks every day that I served in a time where I wasn't required to go to war, but I'm sure some of the men and women I served with did and some of them died in Iraq/Afghanistan.

naplesblue

May 27th, 2019 at 3:05 PM ^

I Was in the air force between Korea and Vietnam. most of the guys flying were just ordinary guys who needed to fly their monthly hours to get their flight pay to pay rent and feed their families I left the service with a great feeling of patriotism and a great deal of respect for the men who really served., who were willing to risk their lives to preserve ours. I still wonder what happened to my neighbors and friends in Nam or the sandbox or elsewhere.