OT: 2022 #1 overall recruit Travis Hunter expected to decommit from FSU and commit to Jackson State and Deion Sanders
December 15th, 2021 at 10:57 AM ^
*HBCU, not NBCU.
Also would be wild for Deion to steal the #1 recruit from his alma mater among other reasons.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:06 AM ^
His way of saying "fuck you" for not hiring him as HC.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:09 AM ^
Well he was coaching HS the last time they hired a HC so it's really not that ridiculous
December 15th, 2021 at 11:42 AM ^
Great point. I should've clarified that I meant THIS offseason when the decision was made to stick with Norvell.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:11 AM ^
Yet! My wife is a Seminole (and she is from Tallahassee to boot) so FSU is the passion for her whole family. So I spend a lot of time following them as a second team.
We have been saying for months that Deion will be the coach of FSU starting in the 2023 season and he is going to be AWESOME. I have already posted this a couple of times on here.
He will bring in some X and O guys and with his recruiting, they will clean up the state of Florida and be a title contender against from 2024 and thereafter. Take that to the bank!
December 15th, 2021 at 11:26 AM ^
So you're saying Hunter is committing to FSU, just in a round about way?
December 15th, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^
So you're saying Hunter is committing to FSU, just in a round about way?
December 15th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^
That was my first thought when I read this -- Travis/Deion are pressuring FSU to make Deion head coach asap
December 15th, 2021 at 1:18 PM ^
Deion to FSU:
December 15th, 2021 at 11:28 AM ^
He will bring in some X and O guys
You're kind of glossing over this part when it's the biggest variable of all. FSU is going to have talented players, that's not in doubt.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^
Do they have talented players right now? I don't think it is a valid assumption that they will have a talented roster going forward without a recruiting upgrade.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but if Prime Time is such a sure thing, why doesn’t a P5 program offer him right now?
December 15th, 2021 at 11:52 AM ^
Good question. Maybe his schtick is too much for most programs? He has done a great job at JSU and would be an elite level recruiter.
Florida and Miami would not have hired him for rivalry reasons. USC was already set on Riley and he is not a cultural fit at Oklahoma. Those make sense, I don't know why he didn't get mentioned anywhere else.
Unless everyone is thinking the same thing as me and they don't want a one year rental when he will obviously end up at FSU?
December 15th, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^
Would love it if you were right (I live in Tallahassee). But didn't they just hire Norvell's Louisville boss as AD? That suggests some longevity for Norvell, who has the exact same record--I am told--as Willie Taggart did at this point in his tenure. I see that Norvell's just got extended for just a year, which might be calculated to suggest he's on a short leash, but I have my doubts.
Fill me in further.
December 15th, 2021 at 2:31 PM ^
does anyone believe in Sanders as a coach?
always felt he was extremely talented but soft football player, never wanting to get his nose dirty or play physical football.
just because he was a talented player doesn't mean he can coach.
December 15th, 2021 at 1:21 PM ^
"It's been speculated that a name, image and likeness deal in partnership with Barstool Sports, where Sanders is also an employee, played a role in sealing the deal for Hunter."
https://news.yahoo.com/no-1-player-2022-class-172349873.html
December 15th, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^
Showtime?
December 15th, 2021 at 11:06 AM ^
Primetime.
December 15th, 2021 at 1:27 PM ^
Ummm I was asking about what time the show is starting at the AA Civic Theatre tonight. Should've just googled it. Oh wait... Wow I see that some people think I was referring to Dion Sander's nickname. That's funny, you guys...
December 15th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^
Deion
December 15th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^
Neon. I didn’t think he would get into coaching with that “look at me personality”. I’ve got a lot more respect for him now than I ever did as a player.
December 15th, 2021 at 2:13 PM ^
Again, I was referring to Deon Sanders, Alumni Association Board Member for Loyola University - New Orleans. Are people not fact checking this stuff? https://www.loyno.edu/academics/faculty-and-staff-directory/deon-sanders
Getting a weird vibe from this board today...
December 15th, 2021 at 2:25 PM ^
Come on, man. It's okay to be wrong sometimes. It happens to all of us. Own it, and move TF on.
December 15th, 2021 at 3:03 PM ^
Since you're dropping this here, and recently called me out by name in a thread I was not involved with and there attacked my character:
Your accusations about my lack of integrity regarding my former position about Harbaugh are false. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just haven't bothered to read various threads, rather than that you're being dishonest about it, so: Here's the coaching snowflakes thread after OSU. Why you read other threads in that time period and skipped that one is unclear and irrelevant. Your characterizations about my various other approaches to Harbaugh are also false, both before the OSU game and after. I don't blame you for not reading everything I've posted (NOBODY does. Who has the time, honestly?) But when you make blanket statements about the content and character of my posts, you are responsible to know what they contain, and you are wrong about them.
Own it or don't, no skin off my nose. Your personal grudge isn't really a problem; I'm long-winded, have unusual personal positions, and express opinions strongly, and it's no big deal to not like someone. But you no longer have an excuse to speak falsely of how my position on Harbaugh has changed.
December 15th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^
I like that Timmmaay has found a new arch nemesis to replace WD.
I don't like that it's you.
December 27th, 2021 at 3:04 PM ^
Maybe just a teeny bit of hyperbole there, Vlad. I pointed out a few times how people were changing their tunes, but not owning all the nasty shit they said for years. I addressed Stephen by name one time. Once.
Nemesis? Really?
Just no, man. It's just annoying to me, that's all.
December 27th, 2021 at 3:02 PM ^
So... couple things; Yes you made that post in the coaching snowflakes thread, but then the very next day you were hedging your words again. I'm not about to take the time to dig it up, I'm too busy. But to be super clear, I didn't catch that particular post at the time, though I did read through that thread after. That was the only clear admission I recall you making, after nearly two seasons worth of trashing the guy. But okay. One comment.
Maybe I've missed others, I don't read every thread. But it has been a very, very consistent theme to make me notice (and be annoyed) since early last year.
The fact that you made one (or two?) posts admitting you were wrong is good, but I don't quite think it offsets two years of attacking Harbaugh's coaching and character. You have weight here, people read your comments, see that you're popular, and some will inevitably follow suit. It's not like it's catastrophic, but that kind of thing does cause some small, petty amount of "damage" to the program. It added more inertia to the chorus of folks trashing JH, unjustly.
My "grudge" isn't a personal thing, which I think you know. I never had any problems with you at all prior to you becoming one more "fire Harbaugh" guy. At some point that shit hit a critical mass here, and if people don't think that has some type of impact on recruiting at the very least, then they're very short sighted. Context matters, and very, very few people seemed able to keep things in their proper context until after our season was in hand. It's really frustrating, and I addressed you about it several times during the season, which you did not deign to respond to.
I'm still frustrated by it, but I'll drop it.
December 15th, 2021 at 1:27 PM ^
Double time.
December 15th, 2021 at 2:07 PM ^
overtime?
December 15th, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Prime Time did say he was going to "Shock the World" last night.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Coach Prime must have gotten lots of tips from Saban while filming those TERRIBLE AFLAC commercials!!
December 15th, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Does anyone else think this is a bad idea for a player of that caliber?
December 15th, 2021 at 11:05 AM ^
It is a TERRIBLE move. Granted, he'll be coached up by one of the best to ever do it, but his exposure will be greatly limited, his facilities will be second-rate, he won't be pushed by his teammates or whoever he's playing against . . .
This MAYBE lasts one season.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:15 AM ^
Yeah. FSU has lost a lot of shine. This is two years in a row not going bowling and 3 out of 4. This just screams 1-year thing. He doesn't want to go to FSU anymore, but it's too late to really do the homework to find the right spot, or else the places he wants to go are filling up fast, so he'll take the brownie points that come with choosing an HBCU, get coached by a legend for a year, and then find a school with decent facilities, better coaches, and more exposure. At least this way, he'll definitely get on the field as a freshman, then he can spend two years at an SEC school.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:30 PM ^
If this is the #1 overall recruit, I have to believe there are some major programs that would make room for him. And I have to believe that, as the #1 overall recruit, there's no way he isn't at least passingly familiar with a lot of schools, because they'll keep calling him.
Even if this is just really a "nah, not FSU" decision, and with Deion being who he is... it's hard to write this off as just an insincere "anything else" move. He could have done that anywhere. His social media message says the right stuff about HBCUs and I think there's actually some truth to that--he will draw eyes there.
December 15th, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
See my post above; looks like the lure might have been an NIL deal.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^
I didn’t know who he was 10 minutes ago so it’s getting him more exposure than FSU. But I agree it probably won’t last more than a year but the transfer portal makes that very easy to rectify.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
the nfl will find him if he's good enough. i'd also say that development has a lot to do with self-determination and discipline, in addition to the facilities in which they occur. you don't need to go to a football factory to turn yourself into an nfl player. does it help? sure, but it's not all there is.
and let's not discount the cultural value of an HBCU degree to many african-american kids. that's a big-assed deal.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:16 PM ^
The number of guys who become quality NFL players out of FCS, DII, etc tells you you definitely dont need to be in FBS facilities to make it, but it sure as hell helps to get top coaching, top S&C, and play against other NFL-ish players
December 15th, 2021 at 1:49 PM ^
Walter Payton did pretty well for himself after playing at JSU.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:05 AM ^
I doubt anyone on this board has enough info to have an opinion on that
December 15th, 2021 at 11:08 AM ^
It's pretty well documented that HBCU facilities are lacking due to funding. Also P5 programs have more money to throw at the best staffs for development. You don't have to have insider knowledge to know this.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^
I'm not arguing either of those points, just that "well-funded facilities and staff" aren't the top criteria for every recruit. There was a major basketball recruit a couple years ago who went to Howard. Some recruits, and this is going to be hard for many on this board, don't have the same priorities that you think they should. Just because JSU isn't the best choice for everyone, doesn't mean it's not the best choice for this particular kid.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
Yup--Makur Maker is the basketball player. He went to Howard, but his season was cancelled due to COVID. He had been considered a one-and-done but had to withdraw his name from the draft and is playing in Australia to get court time and paid until he is ready for the NBA. So the results are inconclusive there.
December 15th, 2021 at 12:11 PM ^
This is true but the argument a lot of folks make—including The Athlete YouTube show/podcast with Brandon Marshall, Fred Jackson, & Chad Johnson— is that high level recruits and high visible coaches should make this move as it will bring more eyes and funding to HBCU with time as enough recruits & coaches go to HBCUs. As mentioned by another commenter on this thread, a lot on this board won’t understand the thinking behind making some personal sacrifice to help uplift and empower their community.
December 15th, 2021 at 2:27 PM ^
Because white people don’t have a shared experience like black Americans do something this country hasn’t quite figured yet.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^
It is indisputable that HBCU competition is not nearly to the point of FBS, let alone P5 level.
December 15th, 2021 at 4:29 PM ^
No one is disputing that.
December 15th, 2021 at 11:14 AM ^
Not a bad idea at all, Prime Time and Travis will be making their triumphant return to Tallahassee for the 2023 season.
In the meantime, he gets coached by the (arguably) the best CB in history.