This Week’s Obsession: Midseason Expectations Revamp Comment Count

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Nick’s question: So we’re butt?

Seth: Is that your question?

Nick: Phrase it how you want. In the pre-season you said we wouldn’t be butt. Are we butt?

Seth: You mean now that it’s midseason how have our expectations shifted relative to what they were this summer?

Nick: Sure. Actually can we break it up into four questions?

  1. What position group has exceeded preseason expectations most?
  2. What position group has been most disappointing?
  3. What are you hoping to see change or improve over the second half of the season?
  4. How has your season outlook changed?

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1. What position group has exceeded preseason expectations most?

Ace: Going with the cornerbacks. Mike Zordich’s preseason presser certainly didn’t assuage fears that the Long-Hill duo needed another year in the incubator, nor did the continued presence of Brandon Watson, a player we thought was relatively limited, alongside those two. Those fears turned out to be unfounded. Hill has lived up to the hype as the second coming of Jourdan Lewis with fewer busted plays than I thought he’d have given his high school profile; Long has been nearly as good; Watson turned into “Swatson” during the Florida game and has maintained a level of play worthy of cutting into the other two’s snaps.

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Zordich set the bar about where that Hoosier’s second foot was. [Bryan Fuller]

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Seth: Fine, Ace, take the most obvious answer. That lets me gush about the linebackers. McCray, the only returning starter, has been McCray for better and worse, and the other LB spot had to replace an instant NFL starter in Gedeon. They've gotten that and more: Ol' Doomsquirrel, Ol' Pogstackles, Ol' Devin Bush was such a revelation he's already got two prospectin' names, and Furbush made a lot of that happen.

Ace: We’re officially abusing the prospectin’ names.

(Also, given the way QBs react to him, I submit Ol’ Footsteps as Bush’s prospectin’ name. I’m a giant hypocrite, yes.)

David: Ol' Giant Hypocrite?

Ace: Welp. Now I’ve got two prospectin’ names.

Seth: If you claim a third I'm calling Devin Bush Ol' Four Prospectin' Names.

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[Hit THE JUMP for some really bad HTTV takes]

David: So, um, kicker. Quinn Nordin has been absolutely righteous. He's 14/16 and almost lost a ball deep in the bowels of Indiana's Memorial Stadium. One miss was from 51 that should have been from 46, except for penalty as the team was lining up (it would have been good from 46, FYI). He pushed the other, a couple of drives later. Chris Partridge is quoted as saying that 55 is inside his comfort zone. Yes, I believe that to be true. After this weekend, there will be three weeks that Michigan should be able to try to get him a shot at 60+. I say: let's do it! Also, he has a Wild Thing haircut and is 2 more 50+'s in a game away from Ace having to match that same haircut.

And then there’s James “Ol’ Doug” Foug. he probably has the highest hang time ever and gets TBs whenever he wants. Dropping them at the 2 and tackling at the 15 is also a skill that the entire kickoff coverage team seems to have down pat.

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Brian: Cornerback is correct. Michigan just put their #2 and #3 corners on Simmie Cobbs for most of a game and that went great. Also not bad: Lavert Hill is tracking towards Jourdan Lewis in a downright spooky way. All three can play and they've got an outright star. And this was the part of the defense we were most worried about after being told to be worried about them, flat out.

But in an effort to spread the answers out let's put in a shout for the tight ends. Sean McKeon and Zach Gentry have been the team's most consistent receivers; both guys have been adequate blockers. Add in Ty Wheatley flashing some mauling ability and this unit is deep and good; Nick Eubanks and Ian Bunting have struggled to see the field but both guys have chipped in some plays here and there, most notably Eubanks catching a bomb deep into the Florida game. McKeon and Gentry are both going to be around for another couple years; Michigan's tight end situation looks excellent not just now but down the road.

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Adam, Yeah, the corners. This has been covered in exacting detail, but the alarms were sounded, and it seemed that they were sounded for good reason considering some of the information that emerged from the sub. Then Brandon Watson evolved into final-form Brandon Watson, David Long got healthy and got the reps he needed, and Lavert Hill decided to literally become Jourdan Lewis. Always become Jourdan Lewis when given the option, kids.

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2. What position group has been most disappointing?

Ace: Quarterback. We knew the offensive line and wide receivers could have problems given their relative inexperience. Wilton Speight struggling as much as he did was a different story, and now I think we’re all pining for Speight. Develop swiftly, Harbaugh recruits.

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Seth: Backup quarterback. Throw all that O'Korn hype and post Spring Game Peters excitement in the garbage: if Peters wasn't at least 50/50 to do worse than 3 YPA against Indiana the Luck track is out of the question.

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David: Everyone will beat the QBs to death, so let's share the blame! We can talk about Wide Receivers. Despite being true freshmen, this class was ridiculously hyped. Maybe Michigan's best ever? Martin and Collins are almost certainly red-shirting (at this point, I really hope they are). Black looked pretty good, but got three games in and will now MED-shirt. DPJ started slowly and is starting to come along. He's definitely had his share of mis-routes and holding calls.

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The Harbaugh Certainty Principle has failed us this year. [Fuller]
That's not too much of a surprise, though. Freshman wideouts generally suck.

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Brian: It's something related to the passing game. Quarterback is probably still edging out WR. Wilton Speight had a solid-at-worst sophomore year, but by the time he went out against Purdue he was averaging a full yard per attempt worse than he was a year ago. That's not the direction that's supposed to go, and only part of that could be put on his WRs and OL. Then John O'Korn came in, momentarily redeemed the hype... and then repaid all tickets 200%. This is the worst QB play Jim Harbaugh has had since his first year at Stanford. That is rough.

I will also hear all your WR complaints. Michigan thought they'd hit on all three guys in last year's class; now one is gone, a second keeps getting targeted on fades he's nowhere near getting hand on, let alone, catching, and the third guy is a fountain of drops, bad penalties, and bad routes. Not great, Bob.

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Adam: The answer is obviously quarterback, but the receivers aren't far behind. Preseason hype for the position group was as high as I can recall it ever being, and now we're halfway through the season and repeatedly throwing fades to a guy who's the same height as me. Disappointment in the WRs is born of circumstance, not poor performance (with one obvious exception); Black's injury looms far larger than I thought it would. The maxim about freshmen receivers being freshmen receivers is holding true, and though I think DPJ has done well and will continue to develop, there isn't much of a supporting cast to cover for the other two members of the class not being ready for the field, understandable though it may be.

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3. What are you hoping to see change or improve over the second half of the season?

Ace: I’d like to see Brandon Peters get a shot, first and foremost. We’ve covered this ad nauseam over the last couple days but so long as you aren’t Gardnering the kid—and the pass protection wasn’t awful against Indiana—there’s little reason to play O’Korn over him now that the offense has become entirely one-dimensional. Michigan is going to be a quarterback and an offensive tackle or two away from being elite next year; they can get started on developing the former now that it’s abundantly clear the Big Ten title is all but out of reach with O’Korn at the helm.

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Seth: THROW IT TO YOUR BEST RECEIVER GRANT PERRY THE OPEN GUY THAT MEANS THE GUY WHO ISN'T SURROUNDED BY PLAYERS IN THE OTHER TEAM'S COLORS HE'S WEARING 88 LIKE JAKE BUTT AND HE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU NO THAT WAS MCDOOM ON A FADE NOT GRANT PERRY THROW IT TO GOTDAMN GRANT PERRY.

Or, you know, Gentry.

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HE LOOKS LIKE THIS SEE? HE’S GOT WINGS ON HIS HELMET LIKE YOU AND THERE AREN’T GUYS WHO DON’T HAVE WINGS ON THEIR HELMETS IN HIS VICINITY YOU SHOULD THROW IT TO THIS GUY. [Eric Upchurch]

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David: I'll let everyone else talk about Peters b/c...yeah, that. I'd really like to see DPJ continue to improve, and I think he will. Harbaugh says he is not a mistake-repeater and his athleticism is still off the charts. Learn some routes, come by to your QB, toast some folks. I'd also like to see the continued growth of the Guards. The power game has looked better and Onwenu has won a couple of OL of the week awards. This bodes well. Anything positive out of the right tackle spot would be welcome, too. Lastly, I'll be looking for some plays from guys like Aubrey Solomon and Carlo Kemp. Getting some depth at star-laced-but-shallow positions would be absolutely lovely.

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Brian: I'd like Michigan to consolidate their gains on the ground. The last two games have seen Michigan's OL run block very well against a couple of average-to-good defenses. If they're going to have any sort of positive offensive identity this year it will be as a 22 personnel manball outfit that can grind you for five yards at a time unless you overcommit. Adding JBB to the mix gives Michigan a legitimately mauling right side; add more Wheatley to the mix once his cast is off for good and you can really move some guys. They aren't far off from being a legitimately good rushing offense, and that'll give them a shot at hitting passes that are relatively easy for their terrible passing game.

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Adam: I'd like to see them find a way to get the ball to playmakers in space with the short passing game. This seems like the kind of team that could Mesh their way to success if the pass protection continues to develop and Michigan can get away from max protecting so dang much. They have the personnel to do so: Evans and Isaac can both catch the ball out of the backfield, and Perry and Peoples-Jones and even the tight ends crossing should keep a defense honest. The run game coming along should can only help Michigan dink, dunk, and run-after-catch their way to success.

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4. How has your season outlook changed?

Ace: The arrow has definitely gone down. I predicted 10-2 before the season and, if you read HTTV, you know I wasn’t expecting a loss to Michigan State at all. Unfortunately, 8-4 is more likely than 10-2 or perhaps even 9-3 at this point; thankfully, the gooey soft middle of the remaining schedule puts the floor at 7-5, and I’d be very surprised if the defense didn’t drag this team farther than that.

While that won’t generate much excitement, I’ll add an optimistic prediction: after bowl practices and the game itself, a win in some mid-tier Florida bowl against an SEC squad playing out the string, we’re all very much looking forward to the Peters Era, even if it gets off to a rocky start during the regular season.

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Seth: Hey, let's pull my HTTV preview, that'll be fun!

9-3. Beat MSU, retain the Jug, lose to Ohio State. It’s not hard to find two losses between Florida-Penn State-Wisconsin, and an Air Force, Minnesota, Maryland or Indiana can always sneak up on a non-elite team. It’ll be a comedown, but enough to crush Kirby Smart in an upper Floridian bowl game and come back really excited for next year.

bleeeeoooooooooooooooooooop....[thunk].

The MSU loss stings—like you can't say "Go Blue" to another dad at Buddy’s who's wearing a Michigan shirt and carrying a baby the same age as your baby without a Spartan popping up "Go Green!" and giving you crap about going to OT with Indiana (but no he didn’t watch the Michigan State game). It's like winning a drenched, five-turnover luckfest suddenly gave them all Michigan degrees. Even with all of the bounces going to the greenies, the Michigan at the lowest end of our expectations would only have made the final score dignified. It also would have put the Indiana, Purdue, Cincinnati and Air Force games away much sooner.

Now I’m down to 8-4 at best with an unlucky moment dragging it to 7-5. Ohio State fans remain too bored to do this anymore. Penn State fans are justifiably cocky on Twitter. Wisconsin is the annual MGoBlog road trip so figure that's doomed too. If quarterback wasn't a complete disaster zone I'd have hope that the defense could salvage one of those but noooope.

FWIW here are the rest of the HTTV season predictions:

Craig Ross: 9-3.The over/under in Vegas is right on the nose. We beat OSU at last, and lose to Florida, Wisconsin and Penn State. Always next year and 2018 will be primo. I promise. Does the Weed Eater Bowl still exist? No? Tangerine Bowl then against some SEC team. Georgia. TAM. We win in the bowl game. 10-3, again.

Adam Schnepp: 9-3 with losses to Florida, Wisconsin, and Penn State. Michigan ends up making another contractually-obligated trip to Walt Disney World and plays in the CompUSA Capital One BWW Citrus Bowl.  

Ace Anbender: 10-2 with narrow losses to Penn State and Ohio State, which is enough to get into the Fiesta or Peach or Rose or whatever big-time bowl that’s not in the playoff rotation will take a non-champion Big Ten team.

Brian Cook: 10-2. Florida’s QB/OL situation should be bad enough that Michigan’s DL can overwhelm them and keep the nonconference record clean, but there will be enough blips that Michigan drops an Iowa-esque game or two. Mean-ass DLs will be the biggest danger, so PSU, OSU, Wisconsin are the biggest threats. OSU is the most likely loss, as always.   

Ace:

“Harbaugh has never been afraid to make a change at quarterback, even when that means going with the less-established player, and the longer this remains a competition, the more I believe it favors Peters. He’s flat-out the more talented quarterback, and if Speight can’t provide consistency—which he sure didn’t in the spring game—then it’s going to be difficult to justify keeping Peters on the bench. I acknowledge it’s exceedingly rare for a quarterback who put up the type of numbers Speight did last year to lose his job. It’s also exceedingly rare to have a first-round talent as the backup, and I really believe Peters has that level of potential.”

[waves tiny, tear-soaked flag]

BiSB: /glances towards Draftageddon results, thinks better of it

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David: The ceiling is probably 10-2. 9-3 is somewhat possible, but I would say that 8-4 has the highest probability. Bill Connelly has Michigan at 38% to go 8-4 (31% for 9-3). Realistically, this was always the 'paper over' year. Way too many unknowns, so many very young guys getting a ton of snaps, 3-4 extremely difficult games against older teams...you had to think one or more of these things would come up and bite Michigan. In 2018, though, they'll return at least 15-16 starters, Harbaugh's recruits will be upperclassmen, the defense will be deeper...there are sunny skies ahead.

Unless, of course, Michigan shocks Penn State next weekend. Then, who knows? And as we saw in college football this past weekend: absolutely anything can happen.

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Brian: The great, unexpected QB void takes Michigan down a game or two from my preseason 10-2 assertion. I was banking on Speight being at least what he was a year ago; instead he regressed and now he's out and it's a long way down unless Michigan can find a semblance of an air attack.

That said, they're 5-1 and they've got Rutgers, Maryland, and Minnesota on the docket. All of those teams will perish against the Michigan D; S&P+ has M 14 point favorites or better in each. The season is really about stealing one or two from the PSU/UW/OSU trio, and with this defense and a little luck they can definitely do that. Get one and play well in a bowl game and you're 10-3 again and returning the whole damn team and feeling pretty good about yourself. Get zero and you're feeling less great, but at some point Harbaugh is going to have a QB.

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Adam: I'm sticking with my HTTV prediction of 9-3 with a contractually-obligated trip to Disney World as part of a central Floridian bowl game, but with a set of losses not soaked in braggadocio; running the table against rivals is, uh, not exactly happening this season. The defense is so good, though, that Michigan's going to be in every game, and if they continue to develop the run game there's a chance that whichever QB is out there will have a shot at hitting a few chunk passing plays once the defense overcommits. This should get them past everyone except Penn State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State. I think they lose a close one to Penn State, beat Wisconsin, then come crashing back to earth the next week.

Comments

funkywolve

October 17th, 2017 at 12:35 PM ^

but even your fearless leader Brian was questioning the playcalling after the MSU, especially during the monsoon.  3rd and 3 and they dial up a shotgun snap pass in a driving rain?  Calling fades to McDoom and Crawford when you have WR's and TE's that go 6'3"+?

I get there is some limitations to what they probably think the offense can do, but to think the offensive coaching staff is above criticism is major homerism imo.

Reader71

October 17th, 2017 at 3:06 PM ^

The fade thing is way overblown. Steve Smith was the fade target on his teams for years and years and he’s 5’9” or so. Our own Jeremy Gallon was our fade target for a few years. Would you rather throw them to a taller guy? Of course. But our taller guys aren’t catching anything either. You work with what you have. We currently don’t have a good QB, consistent pass protection, or a good tall fade target. Let’s not set expectations as if we did.

funkywolve

October 17th, 2017 at 7:52 PM ^

Steve Smith is probably an NFL hall of famer. Darn right you're going to get him the ball. How many balls has DPJ not caught that he should have? Google him on the search function for this site. The reports from practices were great hops and a large catch radius. But keep trying them to Crawford, sooner or later it's gotta work, right?

Fezzik

October 17th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^

You are right both have had chances to succeed but one can argue setting a QB up in the pocket with happy feet tendencies is likely not his strength. Where are the sprints and rollouts? Also can someone explain why a healthy Speight runs the QB read play? It is as opposite of his strength as you can get.

SpilledMilk

October 17th, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^

Has been very disappointing thus far. There's coaches out there that are getting more out of less despite not having the advantage of near boundless resources like Michigan enjoys... Throw in the bloated salaries that our O coaches are pulling in and it's easy to see why many folks think that they're heavily underperforming

Cranky Dave

October 17th, 2017 at 12:19 PM ^

Of that mind a couple of weeks ago. However, after the IU game I’ve changed my mind. Look at how the passing offense has gotten guys like Gentry, Perry and even DPJ open. You can lead a QB to an open receiver but can’t make him throw there.

blue90

October 17th, 2017 at 11:29 AM ^

This team has issues on one side of the ball and we all know which side that is.  Hopefully the defense can compeltely shut down either PSU, Wisky or, OSU and we could be looking at a 9-3 season, losing the other two.  There is no way 10-2 is happening unless OKorn gets benched for Peters.  He clearly can't do anything well except scramble, I'd bet my life Peters can get better than 3 ypc on 20 throws.  On an optimistic note, Okorn will be gone next year and I think we'll contend for the big ten, we basically return everyone!

markusr2007

October 17th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^

If all goes well with O'Korn at QB, healthy, then it's

@PSU L

Rutgers W

Minnesota W

@Maryland W

@ Wisconsin L

Ohio State L

There is very low probability Michigan wins @PSU, @Wisconsin and vs. Ohio State. Effectively zero.

Either way Michigan's defense will be woefully underrated because it is simply on the field too damn long and placed in horrible field position, and because the Michigan offense doesn't reliably move the ball and score touchdowns. 

Because Michigan has zero deep threats in the passing game, all of the Wolverines' upcoming opponents can pretty much stack the box to shut down the run game.

 

SituationSoap

October 17th, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^

If Michigan has a 15% chance to win each of the games you posted there (and with this defense, arguing that they have less than that to win any game is a real reach), then they have a 39% chance to win one of the three. That's much better than "effectively zero" chance to win 9 games (and in fact, S&P+ has them at a 31% chance to go 9-3, so I'm probably a bit optimistic).

Goggles Paisano

October 17th, 2017 at 1:08 PM ^

C'mon man - we have one of the best defenses in the country, a great kicker, and some talented dudes on Offense that are  capable any given Saturday.  While we will be small dogs in those games, we have a fair shot in all three.  Just go back to last weekend, I'm sure Syracuse, Cal and ASU fans all thought their teams had effectively zero shot to win those games.  

8-4 is the floor.  PSU and Wisc are not elite and we get OSU at home.  

Even with JOK's lousy game against IU, remove some of those 16 penalties and we are kicking their ass.  We dominated that game up front on both sides.  There is reason for some optimism as we move forward.  

smwilliams

October 17th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^

Honestly, at this point, I'd be thrilled with 9-3 (including a win at home versus OSU) and beating the crap out of some mid-tier SEC team in the Citrus or Outback Bowl. 

champswest

October 17th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^

panel are suggesting that we should quit on the season and play the third string QB. We are 5-1 and still have all goals, except an undefeated season, as a possibility. If the coaching staff thinks that Peters now gives us the best chance to win, then fine. But, to start him now just to get him some experience for next year, is crazy. If some reports are true, Peters may not even be the starter next year.

M-Dog

October 17th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^

Agreed . . . pending the results of the Penn State game.

If we win it or are reasonably in it until the end, then stay the course.  2017 is shaping up to be a wacky 2007-esque type season.

Two close losses does not fully close the book on anything.

But if we lose and look lost doing it, then start the wheels in motion for 2018 now.

We're Michigan. The difference between the Citrus bowl and the Outback bowl is moot.

If we are clearly not going to win the Big Ten East, then it's all about gearing up for 2018 and trying to engineer a long-overdue shocker against Ohio State.    

funkywolve

October 17th, 2017 at 12:42 PM ^

a loss to PSU, no matter whether it's close or a blow out, probably ends any hope UM has at winning the East.  They would need PSU to lose 3 league games (PSU would obviously win the head to head tiebreaker over UM) or somehow hope OSU and PSU (and MSU) lose 2 league games and UM can somehow sneak out as East champs via some tiebreaker.

jackw8542

October 17th, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^

Totally wrong.  Because we are Michigan, even if it looks like we cannot win the Big Ten East, then we keep trying to win the Big Ten East until mathematically eliminated and then start trying to finish second in the Big Ten East.  As my coach used to say, "Winners never quit and quitters never win."

Go Blue!  Keep trying to win and never quit.

stephenrjking

October 17th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^

Should've known better to wade into these comments, but there's minutiae to cover:

Remember when Keith Washington transferred and there was some hand-wringing about the DBs? Seems pretty clear what was going on: He had been passed by younger guys. There are four CBs on the roster right now that were ahead of him and would continue to be so next year (Thomas being the fourth guy--anyone have any doubt he'll be terrific next year? Not me, not now). He wasn't getting on the field. 

We can niggle about "those who stay" and stuff but realistically the guy's only chance to play significant snaps is somewhere else. 

mtzlblk

October 17th, 2017 at 7:29 PM ^

as a group that, while perhaps not having much in terms of pre-season expectations, has fallen short of a minimum standard. I get that it is a new group and they are working with limited means in terms of personnel, but the inability to see what was in front of them during spring and fall and plan/scheme accordingly is concerning, both this season and long term. Rather than having player/talent limitations that are mitigated through clever schemes and play calling, it seems more like the team entered the season with a plan that highlighted those weaknesses. I would go as far as saying that the play calling is suspect because the playbook itself was a mile off coming into the season in relation to what it was possible for the players to execute. The personnel issues should hamstring the offense and limit it to being a mediocre-at-best unit and at worst a poor performer, but I'm not sure it needed to be the smoking crater it has been thus far. This is sort of the perfect storm of player limitations in fundamental areas and a new and weird structure for coaching with Drevno and Pep and Harbaugh all in there. Fingers crossed that it starts to function better over the course of the season, but barring some significant improvement, Harbaugh might need to point the money cannon at the OC position in the off-season. The desirability of doing that would be highly dependent upon who you could get to fill that spot. I don't think you would make a change for just anybody.

M-Dog

October 17th, 2017 at 12:03 PM ^

The Corners.

The Corners.

            The Corners.

Don Brown's entire aggressive defensive approach depends on lock-down single coverage Corners . . . and by damn, he's got those this year.

Even after we reasonably expected that he wouldn't, and we were explicitly told by their own coach that he didn't.

Truly amazing.

If it wasn't for the black hole at QB, that's all we'd want to talk about.

 

 

 

HimJarbaugh

October 17th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^

Iowa beat Michigan last year. MSU beat OSU in 2015. Why is it so hard to see Michigan beating Wisconsin and/or OSU?

Yes, QB play has been bad. I just think losses can have a funny way of focusing teams and coaches.

GeorgetownTom

October 17th, 2017 at 1:49 PM ^

Circumstances are different 2016 Iowa was an average at best team that caught Michigan off guard. It was also a road game at night when Iowa has historically had a strange history of upsetting highly ranked visitors. 2017 Michigan is much better than 2016 Iowa so I don't see any team overlooking Michigan. The Wisconsin game is on the road where Michigan hasn't had much success lately (best road win under Harbaugh is 2015 PSU). And while Michigan hosts OSU there is no way OSU will be overlooking Michigan given the rivalry and because OSU will be looking to seal a spot in the playoff with a win.

GordonG

October 17th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^

better than my expectations and of course the O has been worse than I expected.

Should be nice to win one of the big 3.... PSU, Wis., OSU

You would think we would have a fighters chance.. no?!

michgoblue

October 17th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^

9-3.

We win the gooey middle of the schedule games, bring us to 8 wins.  We nab one of the Wisco / PSU games.  And, sadly, lose to OSU for the 10000th time in a row (except for the Luke Fickell year).

9-3 gets us to some non-descript NY day bowl in Florida where our team uses the bowl practices to get right and we dominate some middling SEC squad for our 10th win.

Many will complain about the losses to our rivals, but it will be Harbaugh's 3rd 10-win season in a row, and we will be set up well for a monster 2018 season (bc in my prediction, Peters takes over at QB for Rutgerzzz a really has a coming out party in the bowl).

riceman11

October 17th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

If O'Korn doesn't show considerable improvement against PSU, I think Harbaugh gives Peters his shot next week against Rutgers. Throwing Peters out there against a Top-5 team in one of the most difficult atmospheres in college football doesn't stand to do anything but shake his confidence. Rutgers, however, is an ideal team for him to gain confidence, and get his college career started in the right direction.

Bertello NC

October 17th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

Last year psu had their shit pushed in by us while they had a shit show of an offensive line and a defense with injuries and leaky valves all over the place. It is college football and weird things happen. If we can find one other WR outside of DPJ who can make some plays here and there(hoping for Nico Collins and some possible playing time chatter to be true), OKron can make it to a second read, the OL continues to gel, and maybe even see a little more KW sprinkled in with Higdon already emerging some and who knows. Anything is possible. I agree though, QB is our Achilles heel. If that turns around even 25% we’ll be ok.

gasbro

October 17th, 2017 at 6:01 PM ^

Get the idea that we don't want to spoil Peters with terrible outing at PSU where he may get pulled or worse injured. But if it were up to me I'd consider starting Okorn and plan to give Peters a few series. He doesn't have the pressure of starting. He doesn't have to feel bad if Okorn comes back in to finish. And if he does well, he can take over.

UM Griff

October 17th, 2017 at 7:51 PM ^

We need to remember we have a short opportunity to support our team in season. Let’s enjoy the second half better than we did the first. Players are more experienced, dudes have been identified, coaching has made adjustments and we will be just fine. I am going to treasure each game - November 25 after we beat OSU will be here too soon.