Unverified Voracity Comes Before The Fall
Dantonio: "That was a long football game. I can't remember a lot of things. A lot going on."
— Chris Solari (@chrissolari) October 26, 2019
It's probably over. It's Michigan State week, and in 2019 that means surveying a program down the road that is finally reaping what it's sown. Years of operating in a virtually lawless environment caught up with MSU after their breakthrough recruiting class saw four players leave school for two different sexual assault incidents. That class is, or should be, this year's seniors. Their outcomes, in order of ranking: sexual assault, sexual assault, sexual assault, NFL, on roster, transfer, transfer, sexual assault, transfer, transfer, transfer, transfer, on roster, transfer, transfer, on roster, PEDs, on roster, on roster, kicker.
[After the JUMP: Jim Henson doesn't deserve this]
MSU set up Curtis Blackwell as the fall guy for three of the guys kicked out of school, which has landed them in court. Whether it's Blackwell or an athletic department seeing its football program suffer the consequences it should—finally!—when it is revealed to be disastrously amoral, recruiting has cratered. There was a remarkable moment in the Penn State game when the announcers said that KJ Hamler avoided Michigan State because people there were going the wrong direction, and it seems like that opinion is shared:
MSU's instate recruiting haul consists of the #17 and #21 guys, and that's it. They've had a half-dozen guys transfer in-season. Their starting MLB was suspended for PEDs. Their version of Shane Morris concussion-gate saw Brian Lewerke immediately throw a pick-six that would eventually lead to a loss against Illinois after leading 28-3. Their athletic director resigned instead of facing the Nassar-related fallout and his replacement is this guy:
the King of Queens guest star on the left
Bill Beekman just said Dantonio was under no threat whatsoever and he probably means it.
MSU may be the worst AD in the country but at least they're going to crash hard as a result.
Meanwhile, injuries. MSU has many:
- WR Darrell Stewart and OL Matt Allen missed the Illinois game and it doesn't really sound like either is likely to be back Saturday. Dantonio five days ago: “Darrell is out for a time period, should be back (this season) … Matt should be back probably a little earlier, but we’ll wait and see. I think we’ll get them both back."
- CB Josiah Scott and TE Matt Dotson both left the Illinois game and did not return. Dotson had a boot and crutches after returning to the sideline, so you'd have to assume he's a no-go.
- OL Luke Campbell didn't play thanks to an illness. You'd think that gets cleared up but apparently he'd only practiced once in the previous two weeks before Illinois.
- OL Cole Chewins, Kevin Jarvis, and Tyler Higby all missed the Illinois game. Jarvis has been out a while and his recovery timeline is right about now; Chewins has been out all year with back issues; Higby has missed the last two weeks with an undisclosed issue.
- Also MLB Joe Bachie is suspended for PED use.
- WR Jalen Nailor is out for the year; CJ Hayes almost missed the Illinois game.
MSU started two true freshmen on the OL and two at WR against the Illini. They're down to scraps on an already miserable offensive line.
I don't feel bad about MSU, but this is incredible content. I recently learned that the LSJ has put Graham Couch columns behind a hard paywall. Am I going to pay to read Graham Couch? Absolutely not.
Couch: The worse it gets for MSU, the more Dantonio has to stay https://t.co/gd5aMZpe0l
— Chris Solari (@chrissolari) November 10, 2019
Okay. Probably not.
Well done, Mr. Peters. Brandon Peters is taking Illinois to a bowl game, and executed some instant karma last weekend:
EAST LANSING, Mich. — Brandon Peters spent the bulk of four quarters Saturday hearing noise nearly every time he came off the field. Noise from Michigan State’s defense, but also from fans in the Spartan Stadium stands behind the Illinois sideline.
“The whole game,” Peters said Saturday night. “I had people behind me calling me a Michigan reject.”
After roughly 59 minutes and 50 seconds of this, Peters — a fourth-year former Michigan quarterback who joined Illinois as a graduate transfer this spring — took a shotgun snap from the MSU 5-yard line. He rolled hard to his right, bought just enough time with his legs and eventually found an open Daniel Barker in the back of the end zone to complete a 25-point comeback, the largest in Illini history.
Once the play was over, Peters made his way back to the Illinois sideline and looked up at those same stands. He didn’t hear a word.
“They got what they deserved,” Peters said with a grin.
So that's Peters, who has a Michigan degree, getting called a Michigan reject by a bunch of literal Michigan rejects, and then dunking on them with a last-second W. May all of Michigan's transfers do as much for the cause.
A dollar says that there aren't any Illinois sites dumping on Brandon Peters for being a "big mistake" this week.
Learn about the pick and roll. Watching these plays happen nearly consecutively was an educational experience, and now it's more so since Eric Shapiro helpfully breaks it down:
How Matt Coleman (and his ball screen passing) led Texas to a road win at Purdue: pic.twitter.com/jtrmRqN1KI
— Eric Shapiro (@eric_shap) November 10, 2019
Purdue ended up losing a tight game to Texas but looked a lot more comfortable in a post-Carsen-Edwards environment than I thought they would. They'll be all right, shouldn't drop too far.
This week in Kick Rutgers Out. Probably an all-time record for a conference game?
Ohio State favored by 50.5 against Rutgers, the total is 55 https://t.co/zuMYTLMoVd
— Bill Landis (@BillLandis25) November 10, 2019
Etc.: 2001 Nick Zabaneh has decommitted from hockey. He was likely to get deferred and can probably find a landing spot that will take him for 2020. MSU's Super Bowl. Please leave "little sister" for the MSU frat bros.
November 11th, 2019 at 8:07 PM ^
I agree. I thought Illinois was trying not to win. Two QB stumbles?
November 11th, 2019 at 6:08 PM ^
Putting up 500 yards on Illinois isn't exactly playing on All-Madden. They're incredibly bad defensively, inexperienced, and poorly coached. Luckily they have a lot of talent and good scheme stuff offensively.
November 12th, 2019 at 5:56 AM ^
Did you forget for the first 9 plays of the Michigan - Illinois game Michigan ran for like 150 yds. When Michigan was interested they destroyed the Illinois D. In short, the Illinois D is bad, not Rutgers bad, but bad. So don't be surprised MSU put up some yardage on them.
Yes, MSU is dangerous, ONLY IF Michigan loses interest in game like they did vs Illinois and Maryland. Something tells me, there will be no point Michigan loses interest in the game. I think Harbaugh and company are bringing it for 60 minutes. This game has a 38-9 vibe to it.
November 11th, 2019 at 2:46 PM ^
Once the play was over, Peters made his way back to the Illinois sideline and looked up at those same stands. He didn’t hear a word.
The only thing that would've been better is if Peters did the Paul Bunyan pose, a la DPJ last season. Props to Peters for shutting up the Sparties.
November 11th, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^
I hope we do the Paul Bunyan pose after every TD this week
November 11th, 2019 at 5:26 PM ^
I hope we're in position to be able to do the Paul Bunyan pose after every TD this week, and not feel all on edge about them doing it.
November 11th, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^
Did Hollis retire to avoid the Nassar fallout, or did he retire to avoid facing questions after the Outside The Lines story about covered-up scandals in MSU's basketball and football programs? In my mind it was clearly the latter.
November 11th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
Por que no los dos?
November 11th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
Hollis is a big POS just like the rest of them. He should be investigated just like Simon, Klages, Strampel. He couldn't get out of EL fast enough.
FYS!!!
November 11th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Embrace the healing power of "and".
November 11th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
Inject Brandon Peters shutting Sparty fans up right into my veins.
November 11th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^
Yeah seems to be nothing on the possibility of Lewerke having a concussion. Why is no one investigating this further?
November 11th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Because no one outside of MSU gives a flying rat's ass about MSU, and the fans and community who should care about Lewerke's well being only care about winning against Michigan.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Absolutely correct answer! We have a winner.
November 11th, 2019 at 4:33 PM ^
Valenti actually mentioned it today. Called it a Brady Hoke move as if playing musical chairs with your offensive staff isn’t already doing that lol
November 11th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^
MSU's AD is still holed up in a conference room working on the statement.
November 11th, 2019 at 2:56 PM ^
What is better than one Michigan quarterback beating MSU in one season? TWO Michigan quarterbacks!!
The pressure is on Patterson to equal or surpass Peters on Saturday. Would just as soon that M takes a quick lead and Patterson is out for the fourth quarter to limit his playing time in advance of Indiana and OSU.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:01 PM ^
I can't be the first one who looked at that picture of Beekman next to Jim Henson and thought...BEAKER!
November 11th, 2019 at 3:04 PM ^
I agree, Brian, that I am not a huge fan of Ambry suggesting that this game determines who is the "little sister." But if I may try to justify his comment in my own tortured way:
MSU (because they are a little brother) thinks it's funny to "one-up" us by calling us little sister. So to them, if they beat us, we are little sister. But we all know (and hopefully Ambry knows) that regardless of the result, they are and will always be the little brother. That's the thing about little brothers, they're always the little one no matter how big they grow.
Fortunately we don't even need to be worried about their might these days. Just their peskiness.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:06 PM ^
It may be the end of a MSU era, but I will believe Dantonio is gone when I see it (unless it is off the field related). MSU doing the right thing concerning off the field issues would be a first, so that is not likely either.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:49 PM ^
Sparty is never going to "do the right thing concerning off the field issues" because no one holds them accountable. Neither the regents nor the administration is going to kill the golden goose.
November 11th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
No, they're oddly content to sit and watch it choke to death on its own pride.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:07 PM ^
No "little sister" stuff please.
November 12th, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^
After the game, go ahead, but I am against giving them any kind of motivation to do anything this Saturday but send them back to EL crying.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:10 PM ^
I hate to admit this but I was beyond thrilled watching Peters take MSU down. I had bet $200 on Illinois plus 14.5 and had written this off as a loss just before halftime.
At the end though the money wasnt nearly as important as it was watching the Juggalos be sad.
Again.
As they always should be.
November 11th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^
Too bad you didn't bet the money line.
November 11th, 2019 at 7:52 PM ^
Juggalos? What am I blanking on? Thought Juggalos were ICP fans.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^
Wish Peters was still in ann arbor. Not overly concerned because I think DCaff is the chosen one. But still.
November 11th, 2019 at 5:32 PM ^
edit.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:19 PM ^
I know it's obvious to everyone, but this is still difficult to fathom:
That class is, or should be, this year's seniors. Their outcomes, in order of ranking: sexual assault, sexual assault, sexual assault, NFL, on roster, transfer, transfer, sexual assault, transfer, transfer, transfer, transfer, on roster, transfer, transfer, on roster, PEDs, on roster, on roster, kicker.
Wow. That is all.
November 11th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
I firmly believe if not for the Nassau scandal and subsequent spotlight/publicity on past incidents that the 3 players in the first sexual assault case - players 2,3, and 6 in the ranking - would have been suspended but let back on the team after they pled-down their charges.
(I am not interested in debating the merits of such a decision—- just noting the precedent from other legal incidents under Dantonio at MSU.)
November 11th, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^
Blame Rutgers for turning in Chase Young then bet the 401k on OSU.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:30 PM ^
Graham Couch is behind a firewall?
November 11th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
Apparently he has heard about what they do to couches in East Lansing.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
at first I thought it said an ON FIRE COUCH but then re-read it
November 11th, 2019 at 5:34 PM ^
He is hiding from Chase.
November 11th, 2019 at 3:49 PM ^
wow
50.5 and if I had to bet they WILL COVER it.
November 11th, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^
They beat Maryland by more and Maryland is pretty clearly better, and it's at Rutgers so Ohio State won't be able to put in a bunch of walkons in the second half either due to the travel roster size restriction. That's part of what led to our 78-0 win - the guys that were in at the end were still better than anything Rutgers could run out there. Our running backs in the 4th quarter were Ty Issac and Karan Higdon. Ohio State's gonna bring an even more highly rated-as-recruits roster.
November 11th, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^
"Their outcomes, in order of ranking: sexual assault, sexual assault, sexual assault, NFL, on roster, transfer, transfer, sexual assault, transfer, transfer, transfer, transfer, on roster, transfer, transfer, on roster, PEDs, on roster, on roster, kicker."
Good lord. Has there ever been a comparable cratering of a recruiting class anywhere?
November 12th, 2019 at 11:41 AM ^
This statistic is frightening and alarming. But couldn't happen to a better program. Hate to say but I feel like some of those kids who transferred will become better, and the ones who have been discharged for sexual assault- maybe the culture of the program enabled them- sad to say it, but that looks like it is coming out that way.
Discipline has not been high at State- example that LJ Scott was arrested for DUI days before the UM game, and he was able to play in that game. Unbelievable that would happen.
November 11th, 2019 at 5:39 PM ^
LOL @ the lead photo caption.
November 11th, 2019 at 5:49 PM ^
Sparty fans are so juvenile. Hopefully no one provides them with tickets into Michigan Stadium this week. They can stay outside, rot, and wallow in their drunkenness.
November 11th, 2019 at 9:49 PM ^
I wish I could inject all of Brian's MSU-related content directly into my bloodstream. It's so good. This is another one for the ages.
November 12th, 2019 at 12:16 AM ^
Michigan wins by 10.
Michigan State sets the NCAA record for targeting penalties in one game.
Jokes about "being ejected with dignity" go viral.
November 12th, 2019 at 12:21 AM ^
Hmmm what happened in 2016? Ah, Jim harbaugh became Michigan head coach. And MSU’s classes started to tank
November 12th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
Dang- I like Ambry Thomas' fire, but don't give them any bulletin board material. Stomp a mud hole in them and kick it dry, and then talk for 365 days.
Go Blue!
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