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[Bill Rapai]

Bust items. Michigan's annual football bust was last night. The most important thing arising from it was either Harbaugh emphatically stating he was not leaving Michigan and that three "jive turkeys" were spreading rumors to damage the program...

...or this photobomb.

Better men than me will have to parse a winner between those two items. I mean.

Split those hairs, if you will.

Other bits and pieces:

  • John O'Korn's status is up in the air: you "may see him back here next year."
  • Also in fifth year limbo: Wyatt Shallman, Patrick Kugler, David Dawson. We've been assuming Shallman gets a firm handshake since RB and FB are both full of guys and he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Michigan will probably need the OL depth Kugler and Dawson provide. It wouldn't be much of a surprise to see one or both start, but last year Michigan went into spring camp over 85 and without various exits the axe could have fallen on a guy like Matt Godin.
  • Maurice Hurst was not present—some guys had class commitments—and Harbaugh urged people to @ him to encourage him to return. Hurst's publicly stated he is leaning towards a return. Obviously that decision is not made yet.
  • Harbaugh further stumped for a sixth year for Jeremy Clark.

It is possible to take recruiting rankings too seriously. We take them seriously around here, but not this seriously:

FSU has the talent advantage in the game at every position except the offensive line.

That's a Tallahassee Democrat article titled "It's Experience versus Talent" in the Orange Bowl, which, uh

Because of the Michigan offensive line, the Michigan offense has a higher average recruiting ranking than the Seminoles despite the Seminoles having the edge at the skill positions and quarterback.

So not really. Also Michigan's defense has a walk-on at nose tackle... a walk-on who will be a mid-round draft pick. The moral of the article is that the recruiting rankings are close to a wash and Michigan is a bunch older, which helps explain why Michigan is a touchdown favorite.

Harbaugh's fourth down decisions analyzed. Long piece on Harbaugh's punt or go-for-it decision from Big House Analytics finds that somewhere between 60 and 80 percent of the time Harbaugh agrees with math dorks:

Ultimately, we have a 77.8% “success rate” here, if you will — out of Michigan’s 45 non-garbage-time punts and their nine non-garbage-time fourth-down conversion attempts, Harbaugh’s decision to punt or go was Romer-approved or at least defensible given the complexion of the game (in my opinion) 77.8% of the time. If you want to go by the book (meaning the punts I deemed as defensible but not Romer-approved counting against our success rate instead of for it), our score is 59.3%.

This analysis doesn't get into anything team specific, so Michigan's iffy running game and killer defense don't factor in. Both of those argue for a more conservative tack. Only a couple of Harbaugh's decisions stood out to me as poor: punting on fourth and five from the OSU 36 early was pretty bad. On the other hand, that set up a first half where OSU was constantly pinned back and Michigan eventually cracked their D for a TD. It was very Ten Year War, and you could see why people tended to play that way back in the day.

Meanwhile on that FSU OL. Sometime OL starter Wilson Bell was arrested for failure to appear after a hit-and-run on property. No word yet on whether that affects his availability for the bowl game. I'd guess that it doesn't since no announcement has been made yet.

Hitching your revenue model to the cable bundle was foolish. It's going to take some time, but not as much as some people thought it would. ESPN is already becoming a bit of a boat anchor for Disney:

ESPN was thrust into the spotlight in November when the ratings company Nielsen predicted the sports juggernaut would lose 621,000 cable subscribers that month. Nielsen estimated the sports network would lose another 555,000 subscribers in December.

The staggering losses have led to calls by analysts for Disney to spin off or sell the beleaguered network, which has lost 9 million subscribers in three years, according to company filings.

The cable bundle is going to dissolve. That is inevitable. I sure as hell wouldn't have cable if I didn't watch sports, and about 100% of people younger than me have the same opinion. Since sports is by far the most expensive thing in the cable bundle, grandmas who just want to watch HGTV will bolt and we'll be the only ones left. At that point you don't get to put your hand in New York's pocket just because you added Rutgers, and then Rutgers is a barnacle on the Big Ten.

Maybe they can just eject them like the Big East ejected Temple? That's the ticket?

Draft split. Todd McShay's first mock draft has Peppers 4th; he fell out of PFF's first round mock. I'd split the difference there: Peppers obviously has some things to work on, but no athlete as outrageous as he is will fall to the second round.

McShay also has Taco Charlton(24th) and Jourdan Lewis(28th) in his first round. Hopefully Charlton does go in the first round, because then I will be less peeved about his lack of a redshirt. Also he deserves it.

Also of note for Michigan fans: McShay has OSU CB Marshon Lattimore and UW OT Ryan Ramczyk in his first round. Both guys could return to school; Michigan would obviously prefer it if they did not.

Russell Wilson part 2? 247 reports that Wisconsin is looking like the landing spot for ND grad transfer QB Malik Zaire. Zaire has about 100 career attempts to his name over the last three years and brings Devin Gardner-esque athleticism. He's not a slam dunk, but he's looked better than Alex Hornibrook. Would give Wisconsin another element.

The life of an analyst. Fascinating article on the guys who get their foot in the door for Bill Belichick:

Daboll was well prepared. He had spent two years as a grad assistant at Michigan State under Saban, so could speak semi-comfortably about scheme, self-scout, all that. Then Scarnecchia asked him about salary.

What do you think you should make?

Daboll had researched this, too. He had made calls to colleagues, and had dug up salary surveys from the NFL Coaches Association. He believed the average annual salary was around $65,000. He also thought, having worked for Saban, that he was a tad better than average.

"So I say 70," Daboll recalled. "And Brad Seely leans over and says, 'Would you take 15?' I go, 'Yessir.'"

NFL teams lowballing QC types like they're newspapers out here. Article also has a bunch of details on what breaking into football coaching is actually like. It is a ton of yes/no game charting.

Etc.: Carol Hutchins wins the inaugural Pat Summitt award. Well deserved. Minnesota suspends ten(!) players indefinitely. They decline to say why because of "privacy restrictions relating to student educational data," which tells you why. [UPDATE: Nevermind. Very bad.]

Peppers and mom in NYC. Some Don Brown twist stuff. Will Lockwood will be out for some time thanks to an obvious boarding incident that went uncalled but still separated his shoulder. "Christmas camp." Sounds fun!

Comments

Michigan Arrogance

December 14th, 2016 at 8:44 PM ^

I negged you cause you said to.

I negged you again b/c you're more concerned with men not getting wrongly slapped on the wrist instead of preventing women from getting fucking raped.

these are university codes of conduct. If you don't agree with them, feel free not to attend that university. you do not have a right to due process in the eyes of a voluntary association. you do not have a right to be considered innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of a school that you, by your simple attendance, have agreed to abide by the school's bylaws. You don't have an inalienable right to attend a university, public or private.

you have all these things in the eyes of the state and federal government and courts of law.

 

robpollard

December 14th, 2016 at 9:58 PM ^

...and you are correct on a few things (e.g., no "inalienable right to attend a university'), but you are significantly overstating some things.

For example, "you do not have a right to due process...":
- that is directly contradicted by multiple recent court cases. For example:

"The student accussed the university of violting his due process rights by presuming his guilt ahead of a hearing, not allowing the accuesed student access to witnesses and evidence...The judge in the case agreed."

I have no comment on this Minnesota case, as I have not read any details.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/04/14/several-students-win-rec…

megalomanick

December 15th, 2016 at 6:49 AM ^

First of all, I'm NOT more concerned with men being wrongly punished than women being assaulted. That's a gross mischaracterization of what I said. It is possible to both be opposed to rape AND opposed to falsely branding men guilty of the second most heinous crime a person can commit against another.

Secondly, this is a public university that relies on both federal and state funding. While one may not have a right to due process in the eyes of a voluntary association, one does have a right to equal protection under the law. I'm not a lawyer, but to my eyes being branded as a rapist without due process is a violation of that. I suppose that's a decision the courts will have to make, as there are a number of lawsuits pending from men who claim that THEIR Title IX rights have been violated by these campus “courts.”

Third – When the definition of rape and sexual assault is broadened, as it has been, to include two drunk students having sex you have a further equal protection issue when one of those students is 'guilty' of a crime but not the other.

Finally – This isn't a “slap on the wrist” to these men. Their names will forever be linked to a rape, even if one did not actually occur. Every future employer, future associate, and future partner who decides to Google their name will find search results implicating them in a terrible crime, even though they have never actually been found guilty or even charged with said crime in a court of law. Furthermore, you now have The Association of Title IX Administrators calling on colleges to adopt a policy of including “clear notations on transcripts” of students dismissed for sexual assault by campus tribunals. Essentially blacklisting them from pursuing further education at another institution. https://atixa.org/resources/position-statements/

I realize after the fact that this wasn't the proper time or place for my initial post, and I suppose my reply is in poor taste as well. I apologize to the board for that. Speaking generally on the subject isn't relevant to the case at hand. I don't know the details. I was perfectly willing to just let it go and chalk it up to a case of me needing to think for a minute before pressing “save.” I only type this out to defend myself from the implication that I'm some sort a rape apologist. That wasn't the point I was trying to make in my admittedly misguided post.

 

Here's a good read i found on this subject. I'm not just talking out of my ass here. http://www.newsweek.com/2015/12/18/other-side-sexual-assault-crisis-403…

JFW

December 15th, 2016 at 7:19 AM ^

I agree with much of what you say. It was a good article. I generally would much prefer this to get handled in a real court, and have the reforms to help the victims there. We have to help the victims as much as possible. But we also can't turn things into a witch hunt: the stakes are too high.

However, I know nothing of the facts of the case here, so can't judge, and this wasn't the place.

Maybe another post?



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Tacopants

December 14th, 2016 at 8:16 PM ^

But overall I'd say that Nebraska and Maryland are doing ok. Every legacy B1G school has a decent enough football or basketball program. Illinois has academics and a good basketball history.

 

We're stuck with Rutgers until Nebraska decides they want out of a wide open B1G West and goes back to being 3rd fiddle in a weak Big 12.

Michigan Arrogance

December 14th, 2016 at 8:54 PM ^

Rutgers and Neb represent the extreme poles to the spectrum of adding a new school to a conf.

 

on the one hand, Rutgers is clearly getting the better end of the deal. They are in a major conf and hosting M, MSU, PSU, OSU every other year. plus the occasional Wisc, Neb, or another solid team from the B10. the B10 gets...... errrrrr nothing except the nebulous NYC TV market I guess?

 

on the other hand, in Neb, the B10 get's a huge fan base and a nationally recognized historical power, a great volleyball program, a solid and well-supported athletics program with a large fan base. Neb in return gets to be second fiddle to M/OSU and perhaps Wisc/PSU/MSU/Iowa to a certain extent. Their baseball team was solid in the B12 and has since gone to shit AFA I can tell (but clearly a lower level of competition in the B10). I know they get more $$$, but if you ask most Neb fans, I think they would say they miss playing Tex, CU and OU and the cotton bowl, and feel like the B10 hasn't done much for them. I realize that relative failure is based on "on the field performance."

SagNasty

December 15th, 2016 at 6:39 AM ^

I happen to know a few Nebraska fans and they are happy to be in the B1G. They love being away from Texas and have developed a nice rivalry with Iowa and Wisconsin.
I personally like Nebraska being in the B1G. I just wish Michigan would play them more often. Lincoln is a very cool place to visit.



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Mpfnfu Ford

December 14th, 2016 at 11:17 PM ^

They remind me a lot of South Carolina in the SEC. A historical doormat with no history of success added because "well we can't have an odd number and we don't have a school from that state and the schools we wanted turned us down." 

Like Rutgers, South Carolina got the every loving shit kicked out of them in the SEC for almost a decade. But a funny thing happened. 1) they got their shit together enough as a department to realize they needed to hire proven coaches and 2) proven coaches showed interest because "hey, expectations are low and I can get paid major conference money." Holtz improved the program, and then Spurrier slowly turned them into an actual serious SEC contender. There's only so many major conference jobs, yanno?

It's not going to happen for Rutgers any time soon. They're not going to have the money to make a Holtz or Spurrier type hire until they start getting their full share of Big Ten revenue. But I think eventually an ambtious and intelligent coach is going to go "you know what, there's a lot of HS talent in NJ and I'm good enough to get them to stay and shit they're big 10." 

Not a ringing endorsement when your best argument is "they might be competitive 5 years from now?"

Blue1995nyc

December 14th, 2016 at 11:55 PM ^

Problem with code of conduct policies and Title IX is measuring the conduct through a lens which modulates based on feelings does not work well. It creates victims where none exist. Plus equal means equal .... you don't get to complain about consensual behavior under the guise of if not impaired I would have known better and I never would have consented to begin with. That is replacing reality with hypotheticals and then rendering judgement on hypotheticals and not facts. That is mentally ill nonsense or profound mendacity.

BornInA2

December 15th, 2016 at 12:22 AM ^

Yeah, so about this:

"...and then Rutgers is a barnacle on the Big Ten"

I think you're being awfully generous. More like the dried up, crusty, sharp dingleberry lodged in the deep, dark back-crack of the league. It's annoying and hurts the wrong places, but you can't just stop anywhere, anytime to dislodge and discard it.

Squash34

December 15th, 2016 at 1:27 AM ^

Don't judge current talent by how good the players are with things like all conferance and all American honors... No, no, you judge that by how good they were projected to be going into college. I get that recruiting ranking and team rankings are very importsnt when looking at how successful a program will be in the future. But when it's bowl season you should not use them any more lol. I mean, Michigan has 3 all Americans, and guys that will be drafted in this upcoming draft all over the field, on both sides of the ball. Not to mention, the d line is widely recognized as the best or just behind bama, talent size but fsu is more talented than Michigan because of their high school star rating. It is like saying an NFL team like the browns are more talented than NE because they have a bunch of top ten picks on the roster.. lmao.

tlhwg

December 15th, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^

trying to scout the Orange Bowl by looking at recruiting rankings is stupid.  Here's my 1,000 foot view:

FSU’s Run O vs Michigan’s Run D: advantage Michigan. 

FSU’s Pass O vs. Michigan’s Pass D: big advantage Michigan. 

Michigan’s Rush O vs. FSU’s Rush D: advantage FSU. 

Michigan’s Pass O vs. FSU Pass D: advantage Michigan (primarily b/c both of FSU's Safeties are back-ups)