MGoPodcast 9.9: An Off-Putting Person
1 hour and 27 minutes
It's nice to be surprised that a quarterback did something poorly.
[Marc-Grégor Campredon]
1. Offense
starts at 1:00
The turning point was that outside Higdon run where a different guy handed off to him. Peters can go soft or rocket it in there depending on the situation. The bad: all explainable and freshmany. The good: ALL THE REST! May be some John O’Korn vs Purdue caveats. Running game: McKeon is becoming a big run masher. Big sets worked against a weak run defense. Everyone on the OL kicked someone’s ass. Everybody rooting for Kareem Walker. Drevno
2. Defense
starts at 29:28
Back to usual: rooting to keep them under 200 yards. Ban skill player wildcats. One drive was the Grant run, one drive was Rescigno going unstoppable throw god and almost getting sacked on the MSU thowback screen. Gary went off. Rutgers sacked on 20% of dropbacks. Aubrey got the start. Gary can jump high. Cornerbacks ignored again.
3. Special Teams & Feelingsball
starts at 43:38
Jim Delany ruins Big Ten football to enrich himself—fans left the stadium because the commercial breaks were coming at a 4 to 1 ad minutes per game minute ratio at that point. Suggest soccer-style ads and play football. Internet Raj does not consider 4th down spot karma against Rutgers a 1 for 1 trade.
4. Around the Big Ten with Jamie Mac
starts at 57:00
Let’s talk about the big game this week, after we talk about road dog Nebraska pulling it out against Purdue, and Minnesota-Iowa kindly waiting for the 3:30 games to end before having anything that we need to watch. Wisconsin beat Illinois by throwing to their left tackle. Penn State-Ohio State: I hate those guys. Prevent Fitzgerald invites doom, replay officials tried to help MSU too on the Felton Davis fade.
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MUSIC:
- “Locked in the Truck of a Car”—The Tragically Hip
- “Time Has Come Today”—The Chambers Brothers
- “Justin Scott”—Big K.R.I.T.
- “Across 110th Street”
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October 30th, 2017 at 8:16 AM ^
Just gonna say it again. Yes Peters went up against Rutgers (which Brian pointed out as a decent pass defense), but I will reiterate that O'Korn's problem wasn't opposing defenses; he was so terrible the pass defense was hardly relevant. However we fare against pass defenses going forward, at least with Peters we have a vastly decreased rate of the offense shooting itself in the foot. Now we can maybe actually start talking about opposing pass defenses instead of "man against himself".
The Rutgers caveat is not applicable to the improvement from O'Korn to Peters.
October 30th, 2017 at 10:29 AM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^
"...You guys were asking me where things were, and always look at it as a process and now for a couple weeks, for a couple weeks now we’ve felt that he was ready and it’s time to…" -- Jim Harbaugh, Saturday, 28 Oct 2017
Given the head coach outright telling us that BP wasn't ready until sometime around the IU game, what makes you think he would have won the MSU game? This logic fails me... He was the #3 QB - he wasn't seeing any practice snaps with the 1's, and probably not many at all. He didn't start getting #2 reps until after Purdue - he had to be so far behind that playing time wasn't even a consideration unless injury. It took him a couple of weeks to come up to speed, apparently (week to MSU, then another week before being ready for/after the IU game).
He wasn't ready for MSU - so says the head coach. That sucks - but how teams have a #3 RS freshman that can step in and play well without any prep time? (And before you mention OSU 2014, Barrett had 2-3 weeks, or more, of #2 snaps before playing.)
But, to your point - yes, any serviceable QB would have beat MSU. Sucks that we didn't have one...
October 30th, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^
Players aren't chess pieces; they're people. Especially in college they're young people, maturing in fits and starts. They could bumble like fools for half a year and then suddenly get everything you'd been screaming at them all in an instant.
To your point, if the Peters we saw last Saturday was the same guy a few weeks ago, sure. But it's likely they were quite different people. MSU week Peters might've been warm horseshit if Harbaugh put him out there. In my experience it can take a hundred epiphanies to turn a boy into a man, so it's not an outlandish possibility that Peters had one or two that made him progress from an overwhelmed fool to a viable QB just within the last couple weeks.
Is it possible Harbaugh held him back? Well, we don't have proof that he didn't, but if you're making an accusation the burden of proof's on you.
October 30th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^
...I'm being repressed!"
October 30th, 2017 at 8:41 AM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 8:46 AM ^
The comment on 'monotizing our devotion" by taking away from the on-field experience is a point well taken.
I would argue that college football should go toward a subscription model - those that are devoted pay a couple hundred a year for a conference, or team, "top 25" what ever the consumer wants. Then they can stop selling us life insruance every 5 minutes.
October 30th, 2017 at 9:19 AM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^
How long will the next generation of people who want instant content be content with 6 commerical breaks in twelve minutes of play? On top of that, the interruptions ruin the flow of the game. I understand the need for commercials, but that understanding does not extend to how far it has come. A football game has one hour of action, a twenty minute half time. Add in another 15-20 minutes of the clock being dead for out of bounds, etc. You are talking about maybe 2 hours of play. How many hours on top of two is accpetable? It is a good question/point
October 30th, 2017 at 7:04 PM ^
I would argue that college football should go toward a subscription model - those that are devoted pay a couple hundred a year for a conference, or team, "top 25" what ever the consumer wants.You mean like, season tickets?
October 30th, 2017 at 8:53 AM ^
Answer: Go Etihad Airways! Beat Yokohama!
October 30th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
I've been a soccer fan all my life and the shirt ads are pretty unobtrusive, especially at the top level where they understand the brand/ad tradeoff.
When you compare the experience of watching non-stop sport for ~90 minutes and then getting on with your day to the snoozefest that is any major US sporting event I know which one I'd pick.
October 30th, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
I don't disagree that shirt ads are unobtrusive. But I'm drawing the line here - and my blue hair is showing! I want nothing to do with ads on Michigan's uniforms. No soccer or NASCAR jackets for me, thank you...
October 30th, 2017 at 1:28 PM ^
Maybe they should just increase the logo size by 10% each year. Classic frog-boiling.
October 30th, 2017 at 9:59 AM ^
I started watching British soccer about 8 years ago. Aside from a few exceptions, I couldn't tell you who was the shirt sponsor of any of the teams.
Those deals are way less obtrusive than the Dr. Pepper and Rotel commercials we put up with every Saturday.
October 30th, 2017 at 7:14 PM ^
That has nothing to do with it. The TV networks don't get a cut of jersey sponsorships.
They simply find a way to manage without ad breaks during the half. (They do run ads at halftime.)
October 30th, 2017 at 9:25 AM ^
No... As soon as you said the above quote, Brian, I think you realized the error. Nevertheless, Jim Delaney is like so many other people in positions of authority and power - he doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone except himself. He's a despicable human being.
October 30th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
Dare I say it the NFL seems to be moving in the right direction on commercials. MNF last week actually had some flow to the game. Amazing what a slight dip in ratings can do for you.
October 30th, 2017 at 10:08 AM ^
(seriously for like the first time), Matt Millen said some enlightening things on the broadcast about the difference with Peters in there. He was just making decisions, and going with that decision while understanding that every decision had some potential peril. O'Korn was just becomming frozen by indecision, as though doing nothing at all was better than doing anything with any potential downside. That hold-hold-hold sack during the Penn State game was a perfect example. With any reasonably thrown ball the three possible results were catch/no catch/arm punt-INT, but instead he went with sack because ????? It just felt good for a QB to be decisive in his decisions even if it was a small sample size.
EDIT- I wasn't there yet and hadn't heard that they covered this very thing on the podcast.
October 30th, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
October 30th, 2017 at 10:10 AM ^
"Papa John: We know you got the dough."
October 30th, 2017 at 11:15 AM ^
I was actually rooting for osu against psu, well root is a strong word but fuck psu and their joepa loving shithead fans.
Plus technically speaking we needed osu to win to keep the big ten title dream alive and if the success of the season involves upsetting osu and spoiling their season I'd prefer to ruin their shot at the playoff rather than beat a 3 loss osu team.
October 30th, 2017 at 12:37 PM ^
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October 30th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^
Thank you for The Hip!
Been a tough week since Gord's passing. That was a nice bright spot.
#courageforgord
October 30th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^
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