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Could Have, But Did Not Comment Count

Brian November 1st, 2021 at 11:59 AM

10/30/21 – Michigan 33, Michigan State 37 – 7-1, 4-1 Big Ten

Any close game is going to have its share of coulda-shoulda-woulda moments. There's always missed free throws or shots that hit the post, etc. Saturday's game will stand out in my memory for sheer quantity in this department. It felt like every third play was a Fateful Moment, from Andrel Anthony ripping through the MSU secondary for 93 yards to Blake Corum dropping a swing pass with almost nothing but grass in front of him to David Ojabo's sack-strip touchdown to having that taken off the board by the replay official.

The previous sentence didn't get out of the first half. Also it could have included several other items. You see what I mean. This game was jam-packed with stuff. Bombs! Exciting runs! Special teams disasters! Aztecs invading Europe! Four straight field goals from the same guy at the same spot on the field! Boggling attempts to substitute while the other team was going up-tempo!

Unfortunately for Michigan, the most fateful thing was the backup quarterback coming in and having a mutual misunderstanding with Corum about who was supposed to have the ball. Michigan was up three and at their 45 with seven minutes left. They had almost 500 yards of offense at that point. JJ McCarthy had already fumbled, and so there is nonstop rabbling in the Michigan fanbase this day. Ah well.

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Here, as always, the particular Michigan mania sets in to ruin everything. This is a team with a more-or-less first year starting quarterback that could bring back literally everyone on the roster except for Andrew Vastardis and Brad Hawkins. Even when you account for likely NFL departures like Aidan Hutchinson and Dax Hill, this team looks more like a team building towards a peak roster year than something for the here and now. Anthony is breaking out on offense; Ojabo is breaking out on defense.

To many programs that would feel pretty good. There are scattered outposts of Michigan fandom attempting this zen even now.

To me it's difficult to get there because this is year seven of Jim Harbaugh and it seems like the error rate is baked in at this point. Michigan took three illegal substitution penalties and failed to get lined up on several other plays because of basic college crappe like "sometimes we use tempo." When Michigan tried it themselves they ended up asking AJ Henning to block a linebacker. Then they false-started on a fourth and one attempt and the punter did not get a punt off.

You could ascribe some of that to a near-complete staff reboot. I'm not particularly inclined since this is a program that has made shooting itself in the foot in miserable fashion a trademark. Sometimes they're pretty talented and it doesn't matter until they get to the games where the opposition is capable of matching them. When they are, though, it's always Michigan turning around to hand the ball off and failing to, you know, do that.

This does not have to be fate. LSU just won a national championship with a coach they'd fire less than two years later because he is excessively horny. Whatever Ed Orgeron's assets are, they do not include "is organized" or "suitable for indoor use." But man am I inclined to jump off the moving car that is football season as soon as this stuff rears its head again. It doesn't feel like Michigan is building to anything except another Michigan Football Season where they win enough games to make you think they're going to win the important ones and then don't.

So when McCarthy's in the game because Cade McNamara is briefly in the injury tent it doesn't feel like a weird one-off that you can shrug about and leave in the past. It feels like something that's going to happen against Penn State, and Ohio State, and so forth and so on. Maybe that's irrational. At this point, expecting Michigan to do something other than one-up themselves in late game failures seems more irrational to me.      

AWARDS

Known Friends and Trusted Agents Of The Week

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#1 Cade McNamara. My pregame take was that I thought Michigan would probably win if they got equal QB play but I was very nervous about that. McNamara blew expectations out of the water with a 383 yard, 8.7 YPA day where he was lasering in pinpoint passes while under some duress.

#2 Andrel Anthony. Hello Mr. Anthony. Randy Sklar lands the second-best Hot Take of all time by predicting Anthony would break out as Michigan's #1 receiver by next year; that took about a game to seem true. Anthony outran the entire secondary on his 93-yarder, had a Braylon/Terrell leaping TD later, had the wherewithal to get out of bounds on a late first half catch, and nearly made another spectacular leaping grab late on. It's not just the catches, it's the way he made them. Looks like a future star. Maybe a current one.

#3 Aidan Hutchinson/David Ojabo. Three sacks and one erroneously deleted touchdown between them. Generally unblockable. Three points each.

Honorable mention: Erick All had ten(!) catches, building on last week, and looks like he's emerging into the kind of dual-threat weapon Michigan fans had envisioned from him for years. Dax Hill forced an INT with a PBU, had another one, and tracked down a would-be TD, for all the good that did. Jake Moody was 7/7 on field goals, four of which counted.

KFaTAotW Standings.

(points: #1: 8, #2: 5, #3: 3, HMs one each. Ties result in somewhat arbitrary assignments.)

31: Aidan Hutchinson (HM WMU, #2 Wash, #1 Rutgers, #1 Wisc, HM Neb, #2 NW, T3 MSU)
18: The OL (#1 Wash, #1 NIU, HM Neb, HM NW)
17: Hassan Haskins (HM WMU, T3 Wash, T2 NIU, #2 Neb, T1 NW), Blake Corum (#2 WMU, T3 Wash, T2 NIU, HM Neb, T1 NW)
8: Ronnie Bell (#1 WMU), Brad Hawkins (#1 Neb), Cade McNamara (#1 MSU), Dax Hill (#3 WMU, HM NIU, HM Rutgers, HM Wisc, HM Neb, HM MSU)
6: Nikhai Hill-Green(HM NIU, #2 Rutgers), Jake Moody (HM Wash, HM Wisc, #3 Neb, HM MSU)
5: David Ojabo (#2 Wisc), Brad Robbins (HM Wash, #3 Rutgers, HM Wisc), Josh Ross (HM Wash, HM NIU, HM Rutgers, HM Neb, HM NW), Andrel Anthony (#2 MSU)
4: AJ Henning (HM WMU, #3 NIU)
3: Donovan Edwards(T2 NIU), Roman Wilson (#3 Wisc), DJ Turner (#3 NW)
2: Cornelius Johnson(HM NIU, HM Wisc), Erick All (HM NW, HM MSU)
1: Andrew Vastardis (HM WMU),Mike Sainristil (HM WMU),  Mazi Smith (HM Wash), Gemon Green(HM NIU), Chris Hinton (HM Rutgers)

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Anthony takes a crossing route 93 yards to paydirt.

Honorable mention: Sack-strip by Ojabo; the other sack-strip by Ojabo; McNamara threads a needle to convert on a crossing route to All.

image​MARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

The fateful fumble.

Honorable mention: Corum drops that swing pass; various tempo follies; TD taken off the board wrongly by replay official; Johnson drops a back shoulder bomb; no PI on fourth down; more tempo follies; false start on fourth and one; subsequent punt dorf; I could keep going but will not.

[After THE JUMP: ack]

OFFENSE

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Star? Looks like a star. To reinforce the comments above, here's the not-quite catch:

The body control, range, and ability to go high-point a ball outside of his frame are all very enticing, especially when he is also capable of putting distance on an entire secondary like he did on the 93-yarder. This seems more likely to be announcing a new talent than a flash in the pan.

Aaargh. McNamara obviously had a great day but man this would haunt me if such things were capable of haunting me any more:

For one, that is an MSU defensive back bashing Johnson off his route with the ball in the air. That is a penalty. It is a very obvious penalty that very obviously should be thrown. I do not like that it was not thrown.

But also for two, why are we running a pick route against man coverage and then not throwing to the wide open guy created by the pick? Is this not supposed to be a pick route? If not, why not? I have so many questions.

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The Erick All we were promised. 10 catches, 98 yards, no drops, mismatch against linebackers, dogged blocker who may be a little light but gets after it. All was plagued with drops for the first couple years of his career, albeit on limited opportunities. The last two weeks he's been a critical, reliable option on third down. I think that will continue as well; the guy pops out as different whenever you see him run drills.

Pass protection accomplished. Michigan didn't take a sack. McNamara did have to stand in the pocket and deliver in a few uncomfortable situations; given the number of throws and the number of obvious passing downs that seems like a best-case scenario. MSU DE Drew Beesley did return for this game, as well, so that was some version of full strength. Should still be noted that MSU's gaudy sack numbers are largely a function of facing a billion passing attempts, so shutting down Georgia this was not.

DEFENSE

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Rotation gets got. The above is the long MSU rushing TD, and Kris Jenkins has just finished going upfield of his guy on a zone stretch. Jenkins was a guy to check back in on this year with a view towards being a starter-level guy next year and beyond; here he made a devastating mistake. You have to wonder whether this is another NFL transition thing; in the NFL your backups are all, you know, NFL players. So they don't do stuff like the above. Michigan's frequent DL rotation was a huge problem even when they weren't failing to get set on easy touchdowns. Michigan does not need to substitute on nearly every snap.

I mentioned the substitution penalties above. I cannot think of any other game I've seen involving Michigan or not where one team regularly attempted to substitute when the opposition wasn't doing so. In the NFL their leisurely approach to spotting the ball makes this feasible. It's hard not to draw a line straight from "new defensive coordinator who has little college experience" to the loss.

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Arriving. That is two consecutive games in which David Ojabo looked pretty analogous to Aidan Hutchinson. Ojabo's still not on his level as a run defender—he did give up one of those Walker runs which bounced outside, IIRC—but dude was still supposed to be pupating after picking up football in 2017. He even got stuck in Scotland for much of last year because of COVID. His improvement trajectory is one that points towards an all-conference DE next year.

DTs make no impact. Michigan did an okay job bottling up the ground game outside of tempo instances and missed tackles, but this was vastly different than MSU's game against Nebraska where their LOS was getting reset constantly. Michigan DTs did little of note here, getting stalemates against single blocking and not shedding. The starting DTs combined for one tackle. Tackles aren't everything at that spot, but they are an indicator.

Weird stuff. Michigan's first snap was a 6-1 with Ojabo and Hutchinson as "OLBs" on the line of scrimmage and four DE/DT types between them. Michigan frequently went to more guys on the LOS in this game—probably more DE/DT snaps here than any other game by a wide margin and relied on those guys to make it work; therefore there was often little or no second level when that did not work, because Ross was the only linebacker in the game. That proved costly, IMO: as mentioned the DTs weren't making good use of their single blocking and there were multiple instances where breaking through the first line of defense meant nobody else was available.

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Revenge of the slot fades. Another Fateful Moment occurred above, when Thorne nailed Reed on a fourth-down slot fade. Hill got caught in man coverage again and you can see how close he was to making a play, but he's a step out of phase and therefore his arm is not in a spot he can contest the ball. Michigan's attempt at a slot fade on third and three was well overthrown.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Missing Peppers. AJ Henning did not field MSU's punt after the overturned sack/strip, that turned into a 66-yarder, and Michigan ended up kicking a field goal from the 21. Their previous two plays were fade attempts because that was the thing that made sense to do given the situation. Slash 15-20 yards off that punt and Michigan has an excellent chance of getting those four points back.

Henning did make up for that a bit by ripping off another 50 yards in returns.

Moody, the mood. After the timeout sequence:

I enjoyed that. I did not enjoy Moody going 4/4 on field goals with a long of 38, because that is how you put up 550 yards and pick up two turnovers and lose a game.

MISCELLANEOUS

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Gone. The goal of replay is to correct obviously wrong calls on the field. It is not to see that a ball is definitely moving as soon as Ojabo hits the QB and to go over it frame by frame until you can convince yourself that there is a whisper of control while a shin may or may not be on the ground. The overturned fumble was the very definition of a situation where you shrug and say "call stands."

But also. Many, many complaints about every video review in this game going MSU's way, but other than the above and maybe the Reed catch he may or may not have taken off the turf I don't think there was much to complain about there.

I guess this isn't a problem since people don't turn it off. FOX was scrambling to insert every possible commercial they could. Action would stop suddenly, key moments would not be replayed, and there were multiple instances of commercial-kickoff-commercial. It took ten or fifteen minutes to be informed that the replay official did look at DJ Turner nearly ripping the ball out on an MSU two-point conversion.

Lord knows how long Jalen Nailor had been out, sporting a neon-green cast on his hand, before anyone at FOX noticed.

So at the same time all the whiz-bang was going on it was still frustrating and boring. I'd like to imagine there's some sort of breaking point at which people put their collective feet down and say no more insurance commercials, but it doesn't seem like that's coming.

Joel Klatt can be on our podcast. Because he's not very good at pronouncing names. Very good at other color commentator things, but not so good with the names.

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Best And Worst:

Worst:  Making Plays

I’ve always been annoyed with the idea of “making plays” as an idiom surrounding sports, especially those so reliant on teamwork and synchronicity like football.  It always feels like post-hoc analysis, divining merit and morality from accomplishment when oftentimes it’s simply the binary result of any football play – a team picks up more or less yards than they needed, someone did or did not catch the ball, etc.  It’s a zero-sum game, and while it’s human nature to find narrative structure in the ebb and flow of a game sometimes there really isn’t one.  Cade McNamara “made plays” all day against the same MSU secondary that decidedly did not “make plays” until Charles Brantley “made a play” by picking off a pass.  Kenneth Walker and Andrel Anthony “made plays” more consistently (but even there you have Anthony only snagging 28 yards after halftime and Walker picking up 32 yards on 10 carries in the 1st and 3rd quarters combined), while Payton Thorne and Cornelius Johnson struggled  “making plays” but then still had moments (Thorne on his dime to Reed in the 3rd, Johnson with his 4th-down reception in traffic).  R.J. Moten “made a play” on his first-quarter interception and then didn’t “make a play” on a dropped pick in the second half, while Quavaris Crouch “made a play” on Robbins’s fake punt but was also picked on all day by Erick All.  This doesn’t mean players didn’t stand out or have atypical performances that had outsized impact on the game, only that the idiosyncrasies of the game don’t lend themselves to a tight narrative of “players” and “scrubs”.

The State of Our Open Threads:

There were 476 fucks given in yesterday's open thread, which is far and away the most this year, with the next highest total being 299 fucks given during the Nebraska game. In a diary that you'll see in December, we will discuss "The Fuck Differentials", which will highlight differences in usage frequency across wins and losses, even down to margin of victory / loss (there is a "Fuck Curve", and you will see it). For now, we'll talk about yesterday - 476 fucks is not the highest we've managed in a game against MSU, but it does signal the most engagement we've had with a game in general in a long time actually.

It's companion word - "shit" - returned to a level of usage seen at Nebraska, and then exceeded that ever so slightly. There were 124 shits given, which is actually lower than I thought we would see, but compared to only 42 for the Northwestern game, it was a big jump week over week. There were 117 shits given at Nebraska and 88 at Wisconsin, so it has remained somewhat elevated throughout much of the conference schedule, as you might expect.

Here is the summary comparison of the two:

We reached a high for the season to date when it came to "fire" as well - there were 87 instances of this word, and it was the usual mix of targets as well, with Harbaugh figuring into it a little more heavily this time.

Comments

DelhiWolverine

November 1st, 2021 at 4:09 PM ^

The thing that frustrates me is the sheer number of people who want to definitely judge the season after a tough loss midway at the halfway point. I get the temptation to jump to judgement - I do - but there are still a lot of games to play. 

Would you judge this season to be a travesty if we go on to beat OSU? What if we beat OSU and lose our bowl game? What if we take OSU into OT and lose? What if we beat OSU but lose our bowl game?  There are so many other games to play this season and so far the team is so much better than most people thought they would be. 

Let's withhold judgment on everyone and everything and see how the team responds next week. No one knows what is going to happen next, even if it "feels" like "that other time" when they lost a big rivalry game. I could be wrong, but I think it's also very possible that we may see a team that is resilient and continues to correct mistakes and grow each week. It's very possible that they beat the remaining teams on their schedule and roll into The Game with an improved team and only one loss. 

ALeafOnTheWind

November 1st, 2021 at 4:38 PM ^

Sometimes a more granular approach can actually obscure things that are obvious if you take a 10,000-foot view. If you zoom way in, you can see all the different reasons something went wrong. You can fuel your hope or your optimism by only zooming in on specific things. (Yes, the team almost beat MSU, but they could easily have lost to Nebraska or, God help us, Rutgers.)

The 10,000 foot view is that Harbaugh has Michigan about even with MSU and nowhere close to OSU. Someone above defended him by saying we're going to lose 2 games on average, some years losing 3 and other years losing 1. I don't think it's too much to ask that we have a year every decade or so that we lose 0. But in fact, Harbaugh has *never had a year at Michigan in which he only lost one regular season game.* They've lost 3, 2, 4, 2, 3, and 4 in the six seasons we've seen. I won't speculate about this season's conclusion, but I think most of us suspect they'll have at least one more loss by the time it's over.

I guess the three attitudes you can have here are 1) find a new coach who might reach a higher level (or not, it's a risk), 2) settle for this, because they're usually top-25 and you don't want to risk falling out of that, or 3) no one could possibly do better than Harbaugh is doing now at Michigan for institutional reasons.

My attitude is 1. I don't hate Harbaugh, I'm not suggesting he should be fired mid-season, nothing like that. But I do wish we'd parted ways with him after last season and taken a risk on a new approach. I can put with a stretch of bad seasons looking for someone who can finally get them a B1G title.

Frankly, this game may have been the most demoralizing since the 2018 OSU loss. MSU's new coach has them as good in year 2 as Harbaugh's Michigan in year 7, and if we're honest the B1G title is definitively out of reach again. And that's why I just can't watch them anymore. After this game I decided I'd listen to the pod, read Brian's Monday gamer, and then be done with it for 2021. Wake me up when there's a chance they could do something great. I'm genuinely happy for anyone who can maintain hope and optimism and enjoy this, but that isn't me.

ca_prophet

November 1st, 2021 at 5:29 PM ^

"I can put with a stretch of bad seasons looking for someone who can finally get them a B1G title."

I can't, for three reasons:

1.  I think the chances of success on a blow-up-and-start-over are nearly zero.  I don't see a coach in the country that we could hire that gives us a significantly better chance at beating OSU than Harbaugh, and if there is one I don't have any confidence that we'll both acquire and support that coach in getting it done.

2.  The downside of blowing up and starting over is likely to be a lot of seasons where we are nowhere near as fun to watch as this team.  If you're in a state of detachment about the team, where you can mildly enjoy success and shrug off failure relatively quickly, then having a team with a lot of the former and less of the latter, no matter how they're weighted, maximizes your enjoyment over, say, RR's teams.

3.  This is a generally well-coached team.  It doesn't play 10-man football that often, players usually know what they're supposed to do, players are given tasks that align with their strengths, and the staff has managed to implement new schemes with a bunch of new players and get them on the same page and working hard.  Even if we picked the next great coach out of the maelstrom, would he be able to assemble a staff and do as good a job overall?  Not to mention that firing a head coach (and consequently the staff) of a well-coached team is not an inviting act to future good coaches.

 

 

ALeafOnTheWind

November 1st, 2021 at 5:46 PM ^

Like I said, I don't hate Harbaugh, but we're getting what we're going to get from him: even with MSU, not even close to OSU. Also like I said, I get why some people are just saying they're fine with it. You seem to be indicating that your attitude is #3 of those I laid out, and if the problem really lies with Michigan as an institution then of course you wouldn't want to change course. I'd like to at least find out if we can do better, and I'm fine having a bunch of losing seasons along the way. There's no permadeath in college football. You can go through 7 seasons of Rodriguez/Hoke and still come out on the other side with Harbaugh.

My view of coaching hires is that they're never guaranteed to work out. Sometimes you hire a D-IA coach and turn your underachieving historical powerhouse into a perennial national championship contender; other times you hire a guy who turned around two college programs and an NFL franchise and you get no hardware at all. I'm not so concerned about whether there's a slam-dunk or obvious hire. But as long as there's essentially no chance of any hardware, it's hard to care about what's happening with the team at all.

As far as this being a well-coached team, they're not Scott Frost's Nebraska, so that's good. But they also had numerous substitution penalties in situations they should have been able to foresee. Again taking a step back, they're a 9-3-coached team. They've never had a one-loss regular season and there's no reason to think that's on the horizon. Football coaches at this level are unusually ambitious people anyway, but even if they weren't any coach in the world is going to understand why Michigan would want to start over from this. After all, the best empirical estimate of Harbaugh's probability of beating OSU is 0.

TrueBlue2003

November 1st, 2021 at 7:45 PM ^

This game was nothing like 2018 OSU.  We were 30 (more?) points from covering that one.  We were blown off the field.

In this one, we looked like the better team, played like the better, lost only because of some awful officiating, and yeah, still could have won had the coaches done a bit better, but much of that was a first year DC not knowing how to deal with college crappe and that should get cleaned up.

This was encouraging to me, in fact, as much as the loss sucked (Cade was awesome, we found a potential star at WR, no one overly disappointed).

ALeafOnTheWind

November 1st, 2021 at 8:28 PM ^

I didn't say this game was a lot like 2018 OSU in terms of expectations vs what happened on the scoreboard. I said it was almost as demoralizing as that loss, and explained why I felt that way.

It also isn't my view that Michigan seemed better than MSU. MSU's offense is more boom-bust; ours moves better between the 20s, but has a hard time in the red zone. We had more scoring drives, but we needed even more than that to win bc we can't punch it in. Walker made us pay for mistakes with a bunch of long TD runs. I don't think we looked worse, but we definitely didn't look *better.*

The problem is that it isn't enough to play pretty darn well at MSU but just come up short in year 7 when their guy is in year 2. (And for that guy to move to 2-0 against us.) I don't care how good they look in their 9-3 years where, hey, if they had just caught a few breaks maybe they could convince themselves they might have won the division for a few brief minutes before the OSU game kicks off.

I guess from the standpoint that the baseline expectation for the year was 7-8 wins, then almost beating the team MSU has turned out to be is nice. But it's definitely not encouraging in the sense that we'll ever contend for a B1G title under Harbaugh or reassert control of the MSU rivalry. There's no way of definitively saying we never will, but we sure have a lot of evidence of that. It's just an endless grey rolling plain of a team in the #11-20 range nationally.

Again, I'm certainly happy that you can feel differently, but that's not where I am, for the reasons I explained.

The FannMan

November 1st, 2021 at 6:34 PM ^

None of this matters until we can compete with Ohio State year after year.  Until then, we  are just fighting for 2nd, 3rd or 4th place in the Big Ten East.  No point in getting too worked up about the difference.  

UMVAFAN

November 1st, 2021 at 6:51 PM ^

What are people’s risk tolerances?
 

Option 1: Keep Harbaugh and be about steady with the historical performance of the Michigan football program since 1969 record wise. Sure, the wins against OSU aren’t there and the program is about equal to MSU at the present moment, but all in all, things are good and Michigan is a Top 10-15 team most years with a shot at breaking through with some lucky breaks that haven’t come lately. This is a 100% certainty with Harbaugh (I give him a pass on the COVID year).

Option 2: Fire Harbaugh and hire a new coach. This might make things worse and Michigan slides back to mediocrity where we’re constantly 4-8, 5-7, 6-6, and at best, 7-5 like Nebraska and Tennessee. Or things might remain status quo. Or we might hire the next Saban and go on 10+ year run of absolute superiority over the Big Ten and college football. What are the odds of each of these three scenarios with a new coach. The chances of hiring the next Saban, or next Urban Meyer, Kirby Smart, or Dabo Swinney for that matter, are probably 1 in a 1,000. That’s not good odds of getting significantly better. 
 

I’d rather stick with Harbaugh given that the COVID year was an anomaly then become Tennessee or Nebraska.

ALeafOnTheWind

November 1st, 2021 at 8:44 PM ^

I think the theory here, if I'm understanding correctly, is that Tennessee and Nebraska have put themselves into a self-perpetuating state of poor football. I don't think that's the best theory. I think when they find the right coach, they'll get better, just like Georgia, Alabama, and Clemson did. And I think if Michigan parted ways with Harbaugh and their next coach didn't pan out, we'd have a chance to try again. (After all, we hired Harbaugh after two abysmal seasons of Hoke.)

It is a matter of risk tolerance, though, as you say. For me, it's just boring knowing there's no realistic chance to win even a conference title. I'd take beating OSU 1/4 of the time, to be honest, but we're not even getting that and it doesn't seem likely to change anytime soon.

Michrider41

November 1st, 2021 at 10:34 PM ^

If you want to get better like Alabama, Georgia, Clemson or OSU, you don't need to find the right coach, you just need the right boosters.  Saban is a good coach, but when you have 30 NFL players on your roster it is a little easier to win games than when you have 3 or 4 like Michigan has.  

Pumafb

November 1st, 2021 at 11:10 PM ^

So how do you explain being below .500 against MSU? Michigan has 32 players on NFL rosters. MSU has 10. Alabama has 53. So actually, the talent differential between Michigan and MSU is greater than between Michigan and Alabama. 

Khaki

November 1st, 2021 at 6:52 PM ^

Great analysis

Refs missed the fumble 6 not much else.

If they called time out every time I screamed time out at my TV Walker has 2 lessTD’s. I saw Harrells in game at OLB and said they are going hurry up gonna run next play at him. Photo above is him getting blocked into boundary. 
 

They let this game get away. Hope they figure against tempo IU, PSU, MD, OSU are going to run it all game

 

 

 

 

 

 

markusr2007

November 1st, 2021 at 8:24 PM ^

He's right. Because by now we all know how a Michigan football season goes.

A punch of pathetic teams get bludgeoned on the schedule, until a road game against an opponent with a pulse, though not necessarily comparative talent.

Next week Michigan will beat Indiana in Ann Arbor, but we already know right now will not be the decisive trouncing of the broken down crumbling wreckage that it should be.

The annual evening White Out contest at Penn State a week after that might have looked promising for Michigan a week ago, but no longer.  We also know that game is going to be chock full of similar UM own-goals: blown coverage, penalties, dropped passes, terrible officiating. You name it.  Michigan is not going to win that football game.

The outing at Maryland should be a blowout though, right? Because the Terps are gonna be 5-5 and rickety AF. But that's not going to happen either.  Yes,Michigan wins the game, but it feels like something's off because it is.

Then Ohio State rolls into Ann Arbor again for Gameday. UM 9-2 vs. Ohio State 11-1 - this time for none of the marbles - because OSU is already 8-0 in BIG10 play, annihilated MSU in Columbus the week before on national television, and is going to the BIG10 championship game already to face the Great Graham Mertz or Tanner Morgan and the Minnesota Gilligans.

And that's OK because Michigan is locked in to play in the Music City Bowl against Cajun Hoke and a team that doesn't practice anymore.

"MAN!!! Guys like you are the worst!!!!"

No.

It's just that guys like us know BS when we see it. We know the sequence of Michigan football blindfolded. We know they're going 8-4 or 9-3.    We know they're going to make it to a BS bowl game no one, especially renowned recruits, care about. We know they're going to fall on their face in Kinnick or in Madison or Happy V or EL once or twice a year, and we know Ohio State is going to light them up for 50+ pts with crossing routes by 3-start slot receivers with 4.2 speed.  

We know this. The whole world knows this.  But no, let's keep pretending like it "feels different" this time around.

Loukdogg

November 2nd, 2021 at 9:14 AM ^

Be Better than that Brian!  When I read this:

"To me it's difficult to get there because this is year seven of Jim Harbaugh and it seems like the error rate is baked in at this point. Michigan took three illegal substitution penalties and failed to get lined up on several other plays because of basic college crappe like "sometimes we use tempo."   

It makes me think I've read comments from another petulant whiner in the comments section.  There is no hope!  There is no progress!  It will never be better!  Fire Harbaugh!  Because that thought process has worked for Texas, USC, Nebraska, Florida, Florida St, etc, etc.  I get criticizing and analyzing after the fact and that is what a Blog is about.  Nobody gets more frustrated than me as I've spent an inordinate amount of my time following UM football since I cried under my bed when Warren Moon beat us in the Rose Bowl... but the great % of MFin UM fans can't stop believing their fate is ordained and can't stop self-flagellating long enough to look around. 

"Year 7 of Harbaugh" is such a tired, weak, lazy take.  Jim Harbaugh has done more self evaluation and shown more ability to change than any coach I've ever seen.  Things didn't go our way on Saturday at the end and some major mistakes were made on defense from our 35 yr old coordinator who has been way better than advertised and was due to make some mistakes.  Yeah we got beat and Mel Tucker is tougher, smarter, and better in every single way and will never lose another game. 

I tend to think there may be lots to look forward to and that things are on a real good path with this football program.  Guess what?  Fan support is more helpful to the football program than incessant, constant negativism.  It would be nice if the editors of MGoBlog to provide more of that perspective, but it seems like Brian has burnt out.  Year X of MgoBlog should be better s/

HollywoodHokeHogan

November 2nd, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

If you think he’s wrong, it’s  enough to just say he’s wrong.  But of course you and other can’t stop there.  He’s committed some kind of moral wrong— he’s lazy, he’s weak. He’s done more for Michigan fans than any one of the sanctimonious  “reasonable take” fans is the comments who are or so reasonable that they need to shit on him for disagreeing.  So fuck off and go write whatever shining beacon of positivity blog you think the program needs.  Because I’m sure your wit and writing will carry it to great heights.

HollywoodHokeHogan

November 2nd, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

Gearing up for another year where the highlights are “win over Northwestern,” “beat Wisconsin,” “hang on against Indiana.”  The Cafe Harbaugh has a small menu— occasionally it offers a 2-5 piece of cat shit on a plate, that Michigan fans will still eat just like Ron Burgundy.  
 

But usually it gives you some version of aforementioned season with highlights against Indiana, Rutgers, maybe UW or PSU, and that one time Notre Dame.  
The standard might be a little tastier or less from year to year, it might reach up to double digit wins, or it might be down closer to seven or eight.  This depends on how good the various IU/NW/UW/Iowa teams are.  But it’s never going be anything more than it is.  It’s not going to involving winning the conference or beating OSU.  Most of the time, it’s not going to involve beating MSU.  The bowl game desert is a dish that is always ordered, but very rarely good (betcha don’t remember the barn burner against South Carolina).   
 

Some people may enjoy the food.  They may have vivid and enduring fond memories of the OTs against Indiana and  Army and trading blowouts with James Franklin.  That’s fine.  But, to put it delicately, the Cafe isn’t for everyone and it’s not quite the fine dining people thought they were getting when it opened seven years ago.  The fact that it’s already behind a nearby restaurant, opened two years ago with an EPA exemption over the top of rotten landfill, is especially troubling.

caliblue

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^

i think the system is against anybody but OSU winning the B1G for the forseeable future. The only way to beat them is to play them early at the Big House but that will not happen since we always play them last when they have jelled. Their recruiting is so much better than the rest of the B1G that i do not think an all star B1G east team could beat them. Nobody else is going to win the B1G until recruiting gets to near their level. They can have a totally disorganized game that would kill any of the rest of us and just win by a little less.

The Pac12 schools  recruit similarly without an OSU to vacuum up all the good recruits so it is always up for grabs. USC and UCLA should be recruiting at an OSU level but they can't find the killer coach to do it all either. They of all schools should have the next dynasty due to the recruits out of Socal. If it was as easy as changing coaches they would be there.

oldhackman

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:54 PM ^

This is the kind of loss that feels like a loss to Ohio State USED TO feel like.  It's a gut punch when all the opportunities were there for the taking.  So many mistakes that added up to the loss, but then you look at it realistically and it all comes down to us not being able to stop one guy running the ball.  I mean, coming into the game if you said Walker III would have 100 yards and 3 TDs, that would be disappointing.  After the game, you say if only we could have held him to that, we win.

But in the larger scope, this loss is devastating, but not disqualifying.  In fact, I think we are the better team in the way that if we were to play them 10 times, I think we win 6 or 7.  Not taking anything away from Sparty, because on that Saturday, they were the better team.  But losing a nail biter to your rival, on their field, when they have 2 weeks to prepare for you, where they hit every crucial 4th down and 2 point conversion, and where the video replays go against you 6 to 0 (7 if you count the targeting non call), is not disqualifying.  IF (and this is a BIG if) that were to be our only regular season loss, it's hard to imagine it would keep us out of the CFP.  I think that when the rankings come out tonight, that will be clear.

But that doesn't feel realistic.  It would require a 1969 type of an upset over the Buckeyes.  So, what would a "successful" season be?  I think it's late enough in the season to play out the scenarios, with Vegas' preseason over/under of 7.5 wins as the backdrop.

Our 4 games left consist of two trap games where we are the better team but could lose if we lay an egg, one daunting road test like State or Wisconsin, and one game against a clearly more talented team that has our number.

If we come away with less than two wins, it's likely to end the Harbaugh era.  Although 8-4 is technically beating preseason expectations, that is still losing 4 of our last 5 regular season games.  By all rights we should be happy with a 9-3 season, but it would still seem unfulfilling. By almost any measure, 10 regular season wins is a slam dunk success that would mean a big New Year's Day bowl matchup and a good shot at a top 10 final ranking.  Win out, and we are likely at least tied for first in the B1G East, and either "in" the CFP or one of the first two "out".  We are officially at the place now where style points matter from here on out if we have any chance of the CFP.

Personally, I'd be happy with any 10 win season, even if that 10th win came in a bowl game.  As much as I'd like to beat the Buckeyes, we are just not where they are at as a program...but a 10 win season would give us enough credibility to recruit well and plausibly gain on them.