Unverified Voracity Is In English 101
Sponsor note. Trivia time! Leaderboard is here. Congrats to AdamW and BenT for leading the way with 22 each. Round 3 is here. Complete by 5 PM Friday to make the leaderboard.
If you've participated in rounds one or two you're invited to an Autograph event with Jake Butt and Blake Corum on Sunday, September 10 at 12pm ET. This event is a live documentary experience going into the story of Blake’s childhood, his journey to Ann Arbor, his experience as a Michigan Wolverine, and his expectations for the 2023 season. There will also be a Q&A portion for VIP Pass holders. Details of the three levels:
- Stadium Pass: Join the event for a private hangout with Blake and Jake.
- Field Pass: Stadium Pass + you will be invited to stay on after the show with 20 fans for a special post experience with Blake.
- Locker Room Pass: Field Pass + you will get the opportunity to interact with Blake and Jake and ask a question during the hangout.
It's an opportunity to provide some NIL and ask Blake Corum whatever you need to get off your chest. Don't be weird. If you are weird we will disavow you.
For everyone else, get in the game by playing the trivia. This is how we point the money cannon.
"Stanford? Never heard of it." Any questions about whether Michigan's transfer process is insane or not have been definitively answered. Myles Hinton:
“Right now I’m in General Studies because the credits kind of messed up. I was Human Biology at Stanford. And then, for some reason, they didn’t take a lot of the credits,” Hinton said on Monday. “All my bio credits just dropped. I don't know. It's crazy.”
A reporter replied with the question everyone in the room was thinking: Michigan really didn’t accept credits from Stanford?
“I was like, ‘What in the world?’ I took an intro writing class last semester, and I was like, ‘What’s going on? What’s going on? I took this class freshman year.’ It was crazy,” Hinton explained.
Alejandro Zuniga speculates about why that may be the case, bolding this section of the admissions rules:
Additionally, departmental credit cannot be used to satisfy distribution requirements or major/minor requirements without the permission of an academic or major advisor within the school/college.
This means if you transfer into Michigan all of your non-major classes are garbage and have to be retaken, resulting in a senior transferring in from Stanford re-taking an intro to writing class. So the score here:
- If you have a degree from anywhere, even Michigan State, you can pop on over into a grad program no problem.
- If you're a first-year transfer you can make it work because you haven't taken enough college credits to start capping out. So Michigan can bring in Ernest Hausmann without much difficulty.
- Second and especially third-year players are likely to get Terrance Shannon'd if they can't slog through the rest of their degree over the summer.
This goes beyond sports at this point and is another symptom of a sclerotic bureaucracy at Michigan that seems unassailable at this point. AAPS and Michigan are Spidermans Pointing at this point.
[After THE JUMP: …but fast!]
Still fast. If you were wondering about Corum losing a step, nope:
Blake Corum (@blake_corum) accelerated to 21.1 mph in only 4 seconds #ReelSpeed
— Reel Analytics (@RAanalytics) September 5, 2023
: @B1Gfootball
https://t.co/orrD059ykP pic.twitter.com/qP2vyFYsT6
This is on par with the top speeds in the NFL a year ago and likely means Corum is going to be a 4.3 or 4.4 guy at the combine. Meanwhile, the fastest man in the NFL last year? Kenneth Walker. Mel-without-Walker just keeps looking worse.
Lukewarm take. My hot take on the podcast this week is that Ohio State had the fifth-best QB in the league. First week PFF grading suggests that's optimistic?!
What’s funny is he’s using each QBs overall grade and not the kept clean grades like he is with McCord who has the wrong numbers anyways
— BongoBlue2 (@Blue2Bongo) September 3, 2023
B10 kept clean grades
JJ: 94.1
Allar: 91.4
lil Tua: 91.2
Kim: 84.4
Altmeyer: 82.4
Sorsby: 73.2
Mordecai: 72.6
Cade: 68.8
Card: 61.6
McCord: 59 https://t.co/SQLYBUjFgm
Chances that holds are 0.0%—Indiana looks like a real-ish defense and others on this list played nobodies—but I'm honestly surprised McCord finished that low. I felt he was at least on par with [checks notes]… "Brendan Sorsby." Who is apparently Indiana's QB. Line against OSU: 8/16 for 58 yards.
Yeah, maybe check back on that one in four weeks. Kyle McCord is going to move up, but it seems like OSU's rein as the conference's undisputed quarterback-haver is likely to end this year.
Klatt sees it. Joel Klatt on OSU:
“And now I don’t know where they’re going to go from this. I would assume that they’re going to try to continue to allow Kyle McCord every opportunity to go win this job. He did not play very well. Watching that tape, there were throws to be had against Indiana that he did not make. Now they would have been difficult at times, but he didn’t make them. There were three in particular, where I’m watching the play progress and I’m thinking to myself — I’m always kind of keeping the clock in my head and I’m like, ‘Ball out!’ and he’s holding the ball and I’m like, that’s a problem. That’s a problem.
Who wants to re-legislate the end of the Hoke era? This week's edition of the Monday Morning QB on WTKA with Devin Gardner was a doozy.
In the break, Sam told Gardner about the Cade McNamara article that popped up on FOX Sports last week. The article is fascinating because it seems mostly like a McNamara puff piece based on a lot of access to McNamara and his family and then it just casually drops in stuff like this:
"And Cade, honestly, was a huge part of how cutthroat that room was," the source said. "It kind of fits with his personality of when J.J. first got there, he reached out to [McNamara], ‘Hey, can't wait to learn from you,' typical stuff that would be smart stuff to say to somebody when you're coming into that situation. And Cade ghosted him, wouldn't respond to him."
And this!
Gary McNamara wanted his son to leave Michigan after the semifinal loss to Georgia in 2021. The family never discussed the idea of McNamara declaring for the NFL Draft, where he might have been a late-round pick, but conversations about entering the transfer portal were had.
McNamara didn't leave before McCarthy beat him out but more or less as soon as he did he left the team, got surgery, and never returned.
Anyway, Gardner responds to this by saying "that's public now?" as if he has been sitting on this information for months and now finally gets to discuss it. He does this by way of relating his personal experience as Michigan's quarterback when he was yanked for Shane Morris in the infamous game that would be the beginning of the end for both Brady Hoke and Dave Brandon. I have decided to not use a ton of ALL CAPS and exclamation points:
"The team didn't know through the week that I wasn't starting. … When he trotted out on game day it was like "what? What's going on?" I got a black hat on, I'm doing signals, I'm the dummy signaler … how the mighty have fallen, right? I've thrown for many, many yards and now I'm the dummy signaler for a guy who's about to throw for 49 yards in an entire football game. …
It's a hard thing to do. I'm telling you, I was hot. I was hot, and you know me… you know how I get. I wanted to fight everybody in that building. I said "man, you brought me in this office a week ago and you told me "he just wanna party, he don't know the offense" and now you gonna tell me he gonna take my job? You are out of your mind. Not to mention, you know we can't block nobody and and you know that I'm in here trying to do everything I can to make this thing work. I was hot!
And you know what, I was like… it's all good, baby."
He would go on to decry Hoke's decision to not have captains that year.
Nice to be able to look on that with some ironic detachment these days.
Etc: This is old but I forgot to link it: Ben Herbert profiled. DUCK GANG. Will Johnson and Rod Moore both practiced yesterday, on the verge of a return. Wagners on the loose. Kirk Campbell wants you to play on Sundays.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:21 PM ^
I still cannot believe Brady Hoke was Michigan's head football coach. What malpractice. In one of the multiverses, Devin was coached by Jim Harbaugh and the debate is whether Tom Brady or Devin Gardner had the more successful pro career.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
Devin Gardner coached by RichRod would have been LETHAL.
He probably would have had the Pat White Experience in the pros, but dammit he would have lit the world on fire in college.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^
I'm just thinking to myself, what if Devin Gardner had a working offensive line? And a healthy foot for the OSU game...
September 6th, 2023 at 5:06 PM ^
The really scary thing is what he could have done under Urban Meyer. Would have gone to New York at a minimum and owned multiple Gold Pants lucky charms.
September 7th, 2023 at 3:28 AM ^
Devin Gardner coached by RichRod would have been LETHAL.
Sigh... the Rich Rod people again.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^
Despite being incompetent and negligent, his redeeming qualities were supposed to be (a) his love for the University of Michigan and (b) his status as a player's coach. Now we can dismiss the latter.
September 6th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
Didn't Bacon all but confirm Brandon basically forced Hoke into playing Morris?
September 7th, 2023 at 9:55 AM ^
I think his love for UM was real but also overstated. There is a section in Bacon's book in which Brandon had a bit of a panic attack because Hoke didn't actually accept the job right away. He wanted time to talk it over with his wife. And then Brandon told him "I need to be able to tell the Michigan fans that you accepted the job without knowing the pay." And Bacon pointed out that he had put Hoke into a quite desirable negotiating position.
I swear that whole regime under Brandon was like it was being run by a first year graduate out of a directional business school.
September 7th, 2023 at 1:45 PM ^
That is quite a statement. I bet people at directional business schools will want to have a word with you.
September 7th, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^
Northwestern, North Carolina, and Southern California, in particular, would like a word.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
I went to a directional business school so let them have at it
September 6th, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^
If any player ever had a justifiable lawsuit for loss of future earnings due to coaching malpractice, it's Devin Gardner.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^
Obviously no one here remembers 2008 when Michigan fans flamed Harbaugh for comments he made as Stanford’s coach about recruiting and playing for UM. No one remembers that pretty much everyone was pissed at him then. This blog had plenty on anti Harbaugh comments for a few years, but sure, an alternate universe and all that.
Also, there is not an alternate universe where that piece of sh$t Dave Brandon hires Harbaugh. Finally, Hoke has been a successful coach by any means at every coaching stop except UM. He won at Ball freakin State.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:49 PM ^
You are wrong on the Harbaugh dissatisfaction on his academic statements in 2008- many M fans including me agreed with Harbaugh-
Pretty much everyone was pissed at him is not accurate.
Michigan may not get some players who don't want to "play school" and that's ok.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^
Also, there is not an alternate universe where that piece of sh$t Dave Brandon hires Harbaugh.
That very well could be one potential bullet that we dodged: Ponder a world where Dave Brandon closes the deal with Harbaugh. First, think about all the speculation we're hearing *now* about Harbaugh's frosty relationship with Warde Manuel (which most of us, myself included, probably think has at least a kernel of truth) and how that will eventually nudge Harbaugh out of Ann Arbor.
Now that you've done that thought exercise, imagine what happens if it's still Brandon as the AD and try not to get secondhand scorching from all those burned bridges.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:29 PM ^
A lot of fans were upset with Harbaugh in 2007 when he made his comments, but by the time he went 12-1 at Stanford, no one cared about that anymore. Had he been hired in 2011 he would have come to the same hero's welcome he got four years later.
September 6th, 2023 at 7:50 PM ^
Brady Hoke has been mediocre at ever stop with the exception of 3 seasons over his 17 year career, one of those at Michigan. That’s not the standard Michigan aspires to. He was given every opportunity and got worse every year.
September 7th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
Before Hoke went 7-6 at Ball State in 2007 and 12-1 in 2008, the last winning season was 1996.
Before Hoke went 9-4 at SDSU in 2010, the last winning season was 1998.
He won at schools that hadn't won in over a decade. He wasn't right for Michigan, but seems like a great fit to rebuild a middling G5 program.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:30 PM ^
I got absolutely negged to Bolivia on this site because I never was behind the Hoke hire. His intro presser and first year was kinda inspiring, but I knew it was fools gold. Keep in mind, I kept my season tickets throughout the Hoke era, so I support the program, but Hoke absolutely sucked ass.
September 6th, 2023 at 11:05 PM ^
I recall pretty much everyone, including me, was in the same boat on the Hoke hire. People were uninspired. I remember Brian's words were something like yeah, "it's Hoke". So many better names were being tossed around in hypothetical land during that coaching search and we ended up with the most blah coach. MGoBlog that day was deflated.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:33 PM ^
Another genius move by Brandon, who couldn't stomach the idea of hiring anyone who might stand up to him.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^
Do I want to re-litigate the end of the Hoke era? Nooooooooo!!!
September 6th, 2023 at 4:35 PM ^
I do. Who were we supposed to get, if not Hoke. I thankfully don't remember.
September 6th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
Here's some vintage Brian from those days. He was not a fan of the hire.
September 6th, 2023 at 10:17 PM ^
Wow, thanks for that. Brian got it pretty right. Some of the comments ... did not age well (though it was fun to see some of the formerly frequent posters who have left the board).
September 6th, 2023 at 8:10 PM ^
If we had fired RichRod earlier, we might have been able to get Frames instead of letting him go to Penn State.
September 7th, 2023 at 1:12 PM ^
No thanks
September 6th, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^
Great info as always. Thanks Brian. If I didn't live in DC I'd be at that NIL signing.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^
So Blake Corum is Blake Corum .. but fast? I'll take it!
September 6th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^
Blake Corum is (Blake Corum is (Mike Hart But Fast)) But Fast
September 6th, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^
emacs/lisp guy checks in
September 6th, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^
When I did my “all the Michigan QBs since 1969” Diary, I had a joke about Gardner that he “makes sure to shoot out Brady Hoke’s porch light once a year.”
Sounds like it’s barely a joke. Hoke’s lack of leadership was on full display in 2014. Not naming captains is something that Gardner has spent almost 10 years telling us was a terrible decision… because the team goes into a season without peer leadership.
You can forgive Devin Gardner for still being salty. I remember the week he was benched, there was a semi-anonymous quote from a B1G coach that went something like “are you kidding me? If we had Devin, we’re winning the conference”
I’m much more interested in the “only here to party” comment! It was my assessment in that same Diary that nobody bothered to coach Shane Morris while he was at Michigan - turns out that may have been a mutual decision…
September 6th, 2023 at 2:44 PM ^
If i remember correctly, in order for Shane Morris to commit, Hoke couldn't take another QB in the prior class and not another QB in his same class? THat alone would've been idiotic.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^
You’re remembering correctly. Unfortunately.
Hoke staked the entire team on the assumption that Morris would roll a nat20. Hoke was a fool.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:04 PM ^
That has happened in Michigan before, didn't it? Not taking anyone before or after a certain QB. Boy, how the history repeats itself.
September 6th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
You are right, bad decision and it seems even weirder because I remember it being okay to make a big deal about Devin Funchess and Jake Ryan wear retired numbers and Hoke was so big on tradition but he just kind of said "Meh, forget that whole custom of leadership from the players."
September 6th, 2023 at 2:27 PM ^
There was an MGoThread in 2014 asking when did you give up on Hoke. Most people naturally pointed to the 2014 Minnesota Shane Morris game. Others indicted the 2012 Nebraska Bellamy game or the 2013 Akron game or 27-for-27, or the 31-0 Notra Dame game. My personal breakpoint was the Utah loss right before the Shane Morris but... reading thru everyone else's different opinions I couldn't disagree with anything they said.
September 6th, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
NEVER FORGET
(wait, about that...)
September 6th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
Fun fact: M00N was Hoke’s final win at Michigan. Fitting.
September 6th, 2023 at 3:00 PM ^
I gave up on him when he got hired. Hated the hire at the time and I am disappointed that I was proven correct
September 6th, 2023 at 3:05 PM ^
2011 pulled the wool over my eyes.
I am now firmly a believer in the Wile E Coyote Just Ran Off a Cliff And Hasn’t Looked Down Yet theory of college football.
September 6th, 2023 at 3:14 PM ^
Hoke used all his nat20 rolls on the 2011 Sugar Bowl, clearly.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:42 PM ^
2011 pulled the wool over my eyes.
Brian was all over the fact that the 2011 roster was primed and set up very nicely for Hoke to reap the benefit of it in his first year.
Had RR stayed, he would have had a top 5 offense in 2011. It's was just about ready to click like a machine.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:06 PM ^
But his defense still would've been a shit show.
September 6th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
True, that's a major reason why RR didn't survive to see the 2011 roster under his watch.
September 6th, 2023 at 5:09 PM ^
2011 Rich Rod would’ve brought Big 12 football to the Big Ten a decade ahead of schedule. Instead we had to wait for Ryan Day.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^
I was upset when he was hired. Told my wife, who does not care at all, that Michigan just committed to being mediocre for the foreseeable future. Wanted so badly to be wrong, but I wasn't.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
I was not happy with the hire. Was frustrated we didn't get one year of RR's fully functional offense. (Wish he had found a d-coordinator to complement at all), but I will admit I was sold initially on his first press conference. His quirks seemed weird but lovable, and he had a good defensive coordinator. But the shine came off quick. I am as salty as everyone else about how he misused Gardner. I still think that he should have moved Denard into the backfield as a pure running back as soon as it was known he couldn't throw like he used to due to the injury. Having those two in the back field together would have been some of the most fun we've ever had on offense.
September 6th, 2023 at 4:08 PM ^
Same here. I decided I had to give him a chance because he really did seem to love Michigan, but it seemed like, and was, a stupid hire from the outset.
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