Giles Jackson
I made a nineties mix of songs with 'Around' in the title. When I Come Around. Around Here. Run Around. Follow Me Around. [Bryan Fuller]

Neck Sharpies: Show and Tell Comment Count

Seth December 4th, 2019 at 2:50 PM

[EDITOR'S NOTE: I went back to YouTube embeds because gfycat suddenly went haywire this afternoon]

Look, if we're going to talk about this game, we're going to either have to agree on a few things: Ohio State is operating on a higher talent level, under vastly different rules and vastly different expectations as dictated by their administration and fans. The X's and O's didn't decide this game; if anything they kept it closer than it should have been based on the Jimmies and Joes.

That's the other thing you're either going to have to trust me on, or give up now and walk away: it was Michigan, not Ohio State, that was doing most of the interesting stuff. You can spin this both ways: I highly recommend Kyle Jones's Film Study on Eleven Warriors this week that described how Ohio State leaned heavily on their skills (really, JK Dobbins') with their base offense. Or you could say Jim Harbaugh was more focused on this game, had more prepared specifically for this game, and outcoached Ryan Day in this game, and it wasn't remotely close.

Start with the first drive.

Show the Formation

After a zone run with a backside cut to start the game Michigan goes to this bunch formation. Bunching has advantages and drawbacks. The upside is you create a lot of space for your athletes to bloom into, and a lot of crowding for the defense as they try to expand with the offensive pieces. Teams that run a lot of mesh and other pick routes (e.g. MSU) will go with these formations a lot.

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The downside is by bunching all the defenders into close range of your formation, you're giving the defense a lot of options they can blitz with, and a lot more fronts they can expose your guys to. Either you need a solid and smart protection group who can handle a lot of different looks, or a very simple (e.g. MSU) offense that relies on quick shots and picks.

That's all this first play is: a mirrored simple read of the flat defender. The quarterback checks the backside for a blitz, then puts his eyes on "B2" (for the second "Bullet" which is OSU's copy of the Viper), whose linebacker zone is stretched between DPJ and McKeon. As soon as he's chosen, he's wrong. It's a nice quick rhythm throw to get your quarterback feeling it early.

Let's use this introductory play to also get a feel for Ohio State's defense. They're a Cover 1 base that operates on an extremely man to man principle. Cornerbacks relate to receivers, middle linebackers relate to running backs, and they'll match personnel at the OLB spots, their demi-linebackers (Bullets) against tight ends, their slot cornerbacks against slot receivers, or another pure linebacker for a fullback. Everybody arrays outside his man, and forces things back inside. The line of thinking goes they're going to have better athletes at every position, and that's almost always true. It doesn't take that much coordinating either.

So what happens with all that talent on this play? Well it's 2nd and 2, a down when Ohio State ALWAYS takes a shot downfield. The coverage is expecting to drop back, with the corners keeping high leverage and leaving the second level coverage to the four LBs across the formation. The MLB sees a tight end releasing vertically on a four verts-y down, and backpedals. Space: conversion.

[After THE JUMP: this was always the plan].

Show the Motion

The next play was something they'd clearly saved all year, and was meant to crack big. It's a very #SpeedInSpace take on Counter Trey, which I've been talking about all season in this space.

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They're running it from a covered formation: Ronnie Bell is not an eligible receiver, and Giles Jackson, at the bottom of your screen, is in the backfield and thus allowed to motion. The downside of a covered formation is you lose one eligible receiver: Ronnie Bell is technically the left tackle on this play, and Jalen Mayfield is the right side's tight end, but can't get a pass because he's wearing an ineligible number. The upside is you move everyone's normal run fits around, and can sometimes catch a less aware player trying to cover your technical left tackle. Just watch #3 Damon Arnette, the slot receiver, in the clip above.

But that's not the cool bit. The cool bit is the quarterback is actually removing two defenders on this play. The first is the safety, coming down with Jackson's motion. If he's late, Patterson can throw a bubble screen to his jet receiver. If he's not, he's completely removed from where the rest of the action's going down.

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This is a great use of the time it takes for Counter Trey blocking to set up. By this point in the season I hope you know the drill: PIN the inside of the gap by having your two most playside players, pin the first two defenders inside of them—in this setup the pins are now both offensive linemen (usually it takes a tight end). This should leave two players unblocked for two pullers you're bringing from the backside. The first to arrive will usually kick whoever's defending the edge to the outside, while the second puller smacks into the second unblocked defender who's no doubt by now living in the middle of this great big gap.

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Of course, as we've seen in the past, sometimes you run into a defense playing to spill: the guy you thought was the edge will dive inside and another defender behind him is supposed to read that and become the new edge man. You adjust to this on the fly by pinning that guy inside and using the second blocker as the kickout.

Michigan's trying to gain another advantage here by having Cesar Ruiz pull instead of Bredeson. The shorter the pull, the sooner your blocker arrives and can react to the defense, but it also runs the risk of at DT slanting right into your backfield behind him. Fortunately Michigan knows Ohio State's tendency is to stay in a 4-3 over front and use their 3-tech, Jashon Cornell, a former defensive end, as a B gap defender, rarely having him dive inside for double teams. They're confident Bredeson can cut him off this whole play.

That leaves two guys in the backfield yet: Haskins and Patterson. The last wrinkle here is Patterson's meant to be the ballcarrier, while Haskins is a decoy who becomes the lead blocker. Once they have the gap set up Haskins is there as an escort, either popping the Bullet (guy set up in the thick part of the Block 'M') if that backside LB makes it to the play in time, or the safety, who thanks to the weird formation is being played by Jeffrey Okudah, a cornerback.

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But Shea screws it up by running outside where #39 is kicked.image

Doh. Also I'm not 100% sure Haskins is supposed to block through the gap. He may just be a decoy to mess with the LB who's keying him. Note that this guy is still standing around on the foot of the Block 'M' looking at Haskins and wondering how to be useful. Haskins has a stance more like a pass protector than a fullbackian escort. Anyway it's working.

Show the Base

After an okay 2nd down it's now 3rd and 5 and Michigan is ready to bring out the base, the play they planned to use all day. It's the same plan Ohio State had last year when Michigan was the Cover 1 defense: picked crossing routes. Except the Wolverines are planning to run them at intermediate range.

This is a changeup: they haven't run routes over the middle all year. We had a practice report that broke through Michael Spath earlier this season that backed it up by saying Shea's not comfortable with them. It was a weakness. And the plan is to turn that into a strength, because it's hard to defend from Ohio State's base, and why would they expect it?

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The route from Tarik Black is there in case there's a blitz and to get in the way. He's like those tight ends Michigan State sends to commit OPI when they run this play, except his coaches expect him to be a threatening first read not some lug whose coaches are like "look man, you're useless out there so just go cheat."

If they're not sending someone off that edge Shea reads the crossers, who should get some freedom when their routes cross the traffic created by those of McKeon and Black. If Ohio State has dropped a linebacker into the low route there should be another one over him. If they have both LBs dropped nobody's on the swing from the running back, and the outlet ought to be free. And failing that? Run away from the Chase Young side, where Bell should be crossing and McKeon stopping and DPJ working back.

The bonus here is Bell's route starts with movement to the sideline before cutting, viciously, under Black's route. This again is scouting: Ohio State greatly simplified their linebackers' duties this season, and sure enough #39 isn't really paying attention to routes crossing his zone

As it happened Ronnie Bell was open but Shea came off that read too quickly, got frightened by the collapsing pocket when Haskins was covered on the outlet, and started running towards the sideline. Fortunately the cornerback (Damon Arnette again—I told you he was the weakness of that team) tagging Bell bit out the outside movement so hard that Bell was still open, and Patterson made a brilliant throw to keep the drive going.

Show Them You Can Do This All Day Long

Same concept, next play. Also we're back to the bunch now.

The funny thing this time is they're using Eubanks as a wideout, a common spread offense tool for pulling linebackers out of the formation or generating mismatches between a burly 260-pound guy and a coverage player. Ohio State again is matching hybrid to TE but that guy's coverage has always been a bit suspect, so there's a hot read here: if he's playing off and in man to man, throw it to Eubanks. Patterson stays on this read despite the low crosser again getting open.

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Note too that the line has its protection set to the right, and they've got Haskins out there to double Chase Young if need be. All year long Ohio State has benefited from teams doing this to adjust to Chase: set up in an over front with Chase Young split out a yard from the tackle. It's daring you to run in that B gap, but it's a fool's bet when Young can angle to that gap when need arises. Then they blitz the MLB to the other side, figuring there's going to be just two linemen for protection.

I think Michigan's looking for this too, and that's part of why they have the hot route over there. If you get a blitz, #20 is all alone with Eubanks and the ball is out before the blitzer arrives. If it's Cover 1 the Bullet will get squeezed to the sideline by Eubanks and draw help from #32. If you get Cover 3, well, as it is, #20 is still all alone because the MLB just drops straight into his zone. Drops so far in fact that he can't help with Eubanks or fire down on time for DPJ. Meanwhile the WLB has to drop on the Collins route behind that. Ohio State is clearly not prepared for these middle attacks. They're probably thinking that too, and in the meantime it's an eight-yard pitch and catch on 3rd down.

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Can't touch this. [Patrick Barron]

Show Them the Speed

So let's review the little bit of education these Buckeyes have been exposed to on their trip to Ann Arbor so far.

  1. Michigan's using bunch formations to create pick routes and easy second-level reads.
  2. Michigan's doing the Gattis stuff: showing a run threat in one direction then running to a gap the other way, and schemed up some ways to get extra blockers there to do some real damage.
  3. Michigan wants to use those picks to create space for crossing routes.
  4. Michigan is doing that and seeking matchups they can exploit outside.

And what we hit 'em with is, well, the same play Patterson and Haskins screwed up earlier? Wait, where'd that guy come from?

The formation is that bunch, which again is going to stress the defensive backs to get through traffic to get to any routes that break outside-in. In response they're now setting up at different levels—just like Woodson suggested.

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The benefit of this alignment is everybody now has a lane to get across the formation instead of banging into each other. The downside is the lower levels have to react more quickly to blockers while the higher levels are giving up some space for the offense to operate. All of those linebackers inside makes for a hell of a box to try to run into on the inside, but what if the play goes outside?

It's also a 2nd and 2, a bomb down, so CB#1, Jeffrey Okudah, is giving Nico Collins an extra cushion. Damon Arnette isn't doing the same with Giles Jackson because of how they play Cover 1, letting Okudah deal with providing safety help to the other side (just like we used to do with Woodson). With no help, and with Michigan's tendency to throw to Collins on RPO reads when the guy he's apparently blocking decides to run by instead of engage, Okudah is going to focus on erasing Collins, which erases Okudah.

After the snap it looks exactly like the Counter Trey thing. But then it becomes not an inside run with the backs but an end-around outside.

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This play could not have worked without knowing how Ohio State planned to play Counter Trey. When Chase Young dove inside of Ruiz's block on the Lead Read Trey play above it screwed with Shea and Haskins, but it also let Michigan know the OSU plan for that play involves spilling. The spilling is the reason Gattis believes he can get away with having all of these blocks that start from the backside end up on the frontside. Young indeed dives inside the first puller, Ruiz, with #39 Malik Harrison replacing.

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Also note what's happening on the backside in this frame. Giles Jackson is already turned and following his lead blocker, but the backside pursuit is frozen there with Shea looking right at them and coming to a mesh point with Haskins. That read might even be hot: if both of those guys take off for the end-around the ball can go to Hassan. If they get a blitz from that side Haskins is in position to lay him out. Anyway the read holds that pursuit, which is really going to matter once we're in a speed race with them to the other edge of the field, and ultimately with the high safety for the pylon.

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Not quite fast enough there, defensive backs Michigan also recruited. [Fuller]

Anyway, it's all about the spilling. Young goes inside Ruiz, and Harrison replaces. Harrison goes inside Eubanks, and is replaced by the Bullet, #20 Pete Werner. Werner goes inside and…

It works. This was how Michigan established their ability to threaten all over the field, keep Ohio State's vaunted defense from cheating to the base offensive strategy. You can't key the running back for run/pass. You can't drop your linebackers into all the passing lanes because they have to respect the run action. And they can't just watch one gap because they have to make their spillers correct.

One by one all of the various tools at Ohio State's disposal to prevent Michigan from matching some of their best offensive players—the receivers—against the Buckeyes relative weak points—Werner and Arnette—were stripped away, all on the first drive. It would remain that way until missed opportunities, missed catches, missed pass interference calls, and most of all a missing Michigan defense put the Buckeye defense in a position where they no longer had to defend the run. At that Ohio State went to a dime, used the extra safety this afforded to drop an extra middle defender between the intermediate crossing routes, and shut most of those off as well. I know it's anathema to take anything good from this game (Ohio State will just take it), but given where we were at the beginning of the season, it's nice to see the Gattis offense able to stress the most talented defense in the country and use Michigan's own superb talent. We'll have to see if this is a culmination of this year's talent in a near-perfect game plan they spent all year setting up, or the start of great things to come.

Comments

CRISPed in the DIAG

December 4th, 2019 at 3:58 PM ^

Good shit, Seth. My brain needs more Neck Sharpies and less emo. In other words, rather than making everything here to be some sort of existential crisis, let's look at what works and what doesn't.

LickReach

December 4th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

"It doesn't take that much coordinating either."  HEAR THAT GREG MATTISON?!  YOU DOUBLED YOUR SALARY AND AS CO-COORDINATOR MGOBLOG IS SAYING YOU CUT THE WORK YOU HAVE TO DO BY, LIKE, 75%.............I got him!  ZING!

 

lorch_arsonist

December 4th, 2019 at 4:04 PM ^

 I always learn a bunch from this series. I appreciate in particular seeing how an unsuccessful play can be useful in future play-calling. Thanks Seth! Also, it's nice to have a bit of optimism. 

imafreak1

December 4th, 2019 at 4:05 PM ^

Certainly, the offense felt and looked better during the competitive portion of the game this year relative to last. To a much greater extent than the stats may show. Unfortunately, Michigans complete inability to run the ball, like at all, on a regular running play meant they had to be perfect or really gash the OSU D with regularity. And they couldn't do either. The mistakes were the most dispiriting part.

The OSU offense was the opposite. Michigans total inability to stop OSU's run, like at all, meant OSU could keep trying to break long passes and still make first downs even when they failed fairly regularly. At one point, I wondered if Michigan could stop a base running play on a theoretical 3rd and 7. And decided it was unlikely they could. Then I turned the TV off.

BLUEinRockford

December 4th, 2019 at 4:22 PM ^

Thanks again Seth for an excellent Neck Sharpies write up. These are so interesting and educational. Unmatched on any other message board. UM moved the ball on osu better than anyone else all season.

Seth

December 4th, 2019 at 5:05 PM ^

If Harbaugh pulled what Urban did last year, guaranteed fired, immediately, with no time to ease a new coach in and no cushy pretend retirement. I've heard this so many times I believe it was said to him directly.

Hell, if Tressel pulled what he did--just the lying in an email to the NCAA part--here, there would have been no way in hell Urban would have taken the job after, because of the self-applied sanctions. You saw the stretchgate thing go down, for what came down to missing some internal report filings, misinterpreting a rule about stretching as practice time that 100 other schools then said they were guilty of, and one low-level staffer who lied when he didn't have to and was immediately fired. This school has one of the Fab Five coaching here and won't even put the banners he won as a student back up 30 years later because a teammate borrowed as much money from a booster as Chase Young admitted to taking from an agent.

Some of it I don't agree with and some of it I wish there was someone to force other schools to act this way. It's not like Michigan is pure and good--in fact it's self-serving too: we're the hoity-toity academic school and parade around our higher admission standards because Michigan's recruiting owns a particular niche for honors students who happen to also be blue chip football recruits.

But mostly it's that Michigan's president and athletic director see it as their jobs to provide oversight over the football program, and Ohio State's president and athletic director see it as their jobs to assist their football program by whatever practical means (including power brokering at the NCAA) are available to them. I've said before: I bet Michigan's assistants are giving players money, but hell if the administration were to catch them--GONE. At Ohio State, the same compliance officers who investigated Tatgate and the car thing that EVERYONE ON CAMPUS KNOWS HOW IT WORKS and said "Nope: nothing to see here" are still around. In a report. To the NCAA! It's vastly different rules.

JFW

December 4th, 2019 at 5:18 PM ^

"I've said before: I bet Michigan's assistants are giving players money,"

That sadly wouldn't surprise me. But if that's the case, why don't we win more recruiting battles? It seems like we're frequently the underdog if OSU or one of the other top 4 or 5 come in. 

Jmer

December 4th, 2019 at 5:47 PM ^

I think we in the Midwest and particularly those of us who graduated from Michigan look at the school differently than what a 16-18 year old high school recruit from a southern state would. We see the top notch academics and campus to go along with great football facilities and great football history and we think it is a no brainer decision. Recruits goals are probably often winning and getting to the NFL. They see a Michigan as northern school that in their lifetime is a couple notches below the Bama, Clemson and O$U of the world when it comes to winning and being an NFL pipeline. 

Plus It's not just some under the table money and handshakes from boosters or assistant coaches. Jim Tressel would call local business to set players up with fake jobs so they would get a pay check without showing up. Pryor had 8 different cars in his 3 years at O$U.  

Sambojangles

December 4th, 2019 at 6:07 PM ^

We win a lot of recruiting battles, that's how we've had a top 10 class the last several years. To the extent cash

Not every kid is merely up to the highest bidder. I am sure that most actually care about who they're going to be coached by and where they're going to live for the next 4-5 years of their life, and that's more important than some amount of cash. And by the way, OSU can beat us in recruiting battles even if you leave money aside - they have good coaches, great facilities, plenty of fans, recent success, etc. 

Also, If you're going to a be a millionaire in the NFL, or you mom is a doctor/dad is a lawyer, the cash you get from the school's booster is immaterial, and depending on your situation, not worth the risk of getting caught, losing eligibility, and harming your teammates. (aside, this makes the Chase Young thing especially dumb - dude is going to be #1 pick and sign a multi million dollar deal in a few months. He only took the "Rose Bowl money" from his "family friend" because there was no way he thought he would get caught and/or punished in the Ohio environment. And really, his punishment didn't really hurt him or the team).

JFW

December 5th, 2019 at 1:11 PM ^

I'm not sure what we do to win more at this point. 

To me, I'd think one of our biggest draws for kids is 'We have NFL contacts.We can get you there if you want. However, we can also get you a good education; and entrance to one of the biggest, if not the biggest, alumni network in the world. So if the NFL route doesn't work, or you get a serious injury, you can still get a good job'. 

But I'm a mid 40's guy; and maybe I'm not as hip to 18 YO's nowadays. 

The likeness legislation, if it ever comes through, might help to sway the guys who want to help an impovrished family *now*. 

username03

December 4th, 2019 at 7:49 PM ^

Yep multiple generations, including myself, have worked at the University, I've been to hundreds of games, and I've been an usher at the stadium but because I don't bow down to the almighty blog group think I must not be a real Michigan fan. Even the concession that I could be wrong isn't enough. Kudos to you though, I'm sure you'll get some likes 

 

Edit to add: Honestly I expected better from you.

Sambojangles

December 4th, 2019 at 6:24 PM ^

Seth, I humbly request that if you have the time and will to expand on this post for another FP article, you do so. You have great points here that re-framed the OSU advantange in my mind.

In your first paragraph you mention that if Harbaugh (or any Michigan coach, I presume) "pulled what Urban did last year" - are you referring to keeping Zach Smith on staff in the first place? Or lying about it at B1G media day? Or deleting the texts from his phone? Or is it all of the above? I'm just curious.

Also I think your last point is the big deal for me. Michigan seems to foster a culture of compliance with the NCAA rules, no matter how dumb they are or what the competitive disadvantage is. The program above all mentality came back to bite Paterno, and looks like it's doing the same at MSU. But somehow, despite one coach getting fired and another suspended, they seem to be able to avoid any actually impactful penalty. 

UMfan21

December 4th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^

The conclusion makes me wonder if we abandoned the run too early.  I know once we were down by 2-3 scores tradition says you need to pass to get chunk yardage to try and come back.  But it's pretty clear that once you make yourself 1 dimensional, OSU has you dead to rights.  Maybe it would have purely been academic in how wide the margin of victory was, but maybe it wouldn't have been so bad to just stick with our gameplan for the full 4Q in retrospect.  I don't know, but these plays (and that drive) were beautiful.  I wish we could have seen more of it.

Teeba

December 4th, 2019 at 5:43 PM ^

I checked the run stats today and compared them to last season. As a team, we went from 4.8 to 4.0 yards per carry.* Shea’s passing stats were similar, except his completion percentage was down about 7%. Pep was vilified. Gattis has everyone salivating over the future. I find it interesting how perceptions don’t match up with results.

* I wonder how much of that was a result of losing Higdon, JBB, and Pep. Maybe 50% Higdon, 50% JBB (for all his faults at pass blocking, dude was a road grader.)

jbuch002

December 4th, 2019 at 4:42 PM ^

Thanks, Seth. I think it's great to see detailed analysis that supports the idea that M's offense was prepared to take on the osu D. osu's offense is elite. I think M's staff knew they were going to have to keep up score for score. It appears they could have barring all the stuff on both sides of the ball we all saw. American Football is a game of restricting variance and controlling circumstances to prevent randomness .....seems as if M has a hard time doing that against osu. It's also pretty clear, to me anyway, that the coaching staff knows how to coach and prepare for big games v. rivals. 

Your take makes me look forward to the bowl game - it's Alabama or Auburn for me. Not wild about playing USC on the West Coast. I think the team and the coaches would be jazzed to play Alabama or Auburn in one of the FL bowls. All the talk that M would get butt-kicked again is just loser talk. Get back on the horse and ride. I think M will be fine in post season play. The pieces and the talent are there to compete with anyone. Focus. Control the things that are within your capability to do so.

Toasted Yosties

December 4th, 2019 at 4:49 PM ^

An honest attempt to boil down our lack of success against Ohio State: While Michigan was better prepped strategically, this year, we are losing because of a vast talent gap, one that is well-established, that has survived several scandals, and has no end off into the horizon, created from an administration’s and fanbase’s willingness to cut corners, measures which our counterparts are unwilling to take.

So it’s a talent gap, and one we are likely never to equalize due to our unwillingness to break away from our standards, so should I get used to winning a game against them a decade and playing for second-place in the division?

I’m not being a dick here, merely trying to reshape my expectations to our reality. I don’t doubt our team cares at least as much as Ohio State, and am never going to call for Jim’s job when he’s consistently winning nine or 10 games. If this is the reality, however, I have to train my brain to care about winning The Game and the B1G a lot less than I have been raised to care for them.

ColoradoBlue

December 4th, 2019 at 4:51 PM ^

Something I noticed in these clips is how well they handled Chase Young.  We were able to make him a non-factor, and not by double-teaming or running away from him.  We did it via scheme and understanding how they were reacting to keys.  

It also makes me appreciate how stressful it must be to be a coordinator or head coach at this level.  So many things you need to digest and react to in such little time.  

micheal honcho

December 4th, 2019 at 4:55 PM ^

Um. We had to have a team of lawyers & 6 months to get the NCAA to clear Shea to transfer from a school with known violations, they get their QB immediate eligibility cuz somebody at a baseball game, which cannot be verified, made a racist comment therefore his emotional duress made him eligible. Even tho his sister is still at that racist school he just had to get away from. 

Watching From Afar

December 4th, 2019 at 5:15 PM ^

Went to the game and you could see how things were built, which was encouraging. Was frustrating watching the fumble and the dropped passes. Just had too many mistakes early that kept it from getting hairy. The fumble, DPJs dropped TD, the 4th down wildcat snap. Can't come back from those when you're getting your teeth kicked in on the other side. Still, they put up almost 300 yards in the first half and OSU barely slowed them.

Anyways, while it doesn't matter going forward because Runyan, Bredeson, and Onwenu are all leaving, they held up well against OSU until it was obvious Shea was going to drop back 40+ times and could go ham. Mayfield was legitimately not a tire fire even when they put Young over him. They need Ruiz back but I'm confident Hayes, Stueber, and another 1 or 2 guys can step in and do well next year. Need to get a crap ton better on the ground though (mostly by getting ride of the stretch zone stuff).

The WRs needed to do much better. Patterson looked very good until he was forced to make a comeback Tom Brady would find hard to pull off. The play calling was good for 9/10ths of the game and OSU didn't look like an NFL team to Michigan's HS team on that side of the ball.

Like Seth said, you can't win The Game with that fumble, 4 or 5 dropped passes, and more importantly a defense that did look like a HS team playing against a juggernaut.

Also, I really want to work for the Athletic Department after I finish grad school. Those guys probably haven't had to sit in the bleachers in 20 years and don't understand how poor the atmosphere is. Yeah, losing a bunch dampens people's attendance and rowdiness but holy shit AD, do SOMETHING.

clarkiefromcanada

December 4th, 2019 at 5:15 PM ^


Or you could say Jim Harbaugh was more focused on this game, had more prepared specifically for this game, and outcoached Ryan Day in this game, and it wasn't remotely close

????

Seth drops the Fcuking gauntlet. 

S.G. Rice

December 4th, 2019 at 5:24 PM ^

After reading this I can only think one thing:

Man, what I wouldn't give to see what result this offensive game plan would have produced without the execution issues - mental mistakes, dropped passes, etc.  Leaving aside the issues on defense, does (iirc) 396 yards and 27 points get to 500 yards and 42 points with better execution?  More?  Less? 

Thanks Seth, these are always a good read.

jbrandimore

December 4th, 2019 at 6:23 PM ^

No doubt I'm going to get negged for this take, but if you assert we out coached them, how could it possibly be that we made many more mistakes than the cooler poopers did?

Are you really claiming that coaching has no impact on mistakes at all?

Sambojangles

December 4th, 2019 at 6:36 PM ^

Coaching is multi-faceted. Some is technical (can I draw up the right Xs & Os), some is teaching (can I teach these 11 guys to execute these plays precisely) and some is oriented toward more general "soft skills" (can I make the players focus and avoid errors over the course of a game). 

Obviously this post hit on the first more than the other two. Maybe the more precise term would be out-schemed. To answer your question, no, obviously Seth is not claiming that coaching has no impact on mistakes. Of course, you knew that, because you're not an idiot, and your rhetorical question just makes you sound like a dick. 

Also, other than the Patterson fumble and a bunch of dropped passes when the team had clearly checked out, did the offense really make that many mistakes? I remember them going up and down the field in the first half on drives like the one analyzed above. The defense did a lot of bone-headed stuff, to be sure, but it wouldn't make any sense to blame that on the offensive coaches.

Seth

December 5th, 2019 at 9:16 AM ^

I said it's a way to spin it. Michigan's coaches came better prepared for Ohio State than the other way around. You can't coach a guy not to fumble a snap any more than Michigan has, just like Ohio State couldn't coach JK Dobbins not to fumble on their first drive. What part of coaching made Shea's fumble bounce off his leg to the one defender among five offensive players in the area, and Dobbins's fumble bounce right back to him without breaking his momentum?

You're sounding like a dick because you're equating final score to coaching, as if that's the only thing that goes into a game. In history we call this "Great Man Theory"--trying to boil everything down to important men who directed the flow of history. It has been debunked since Victorian times but people whose brains abhor complexity are constantly drawn back to it. There are no coaches on the field, man. They can put their guys in good positions, but the 22 people on the field are the ones who determine the score.

BlueMan80

December 4th, 2019 at 6:43 PM ^

Thanks for taking the time to do this, Seth.  This is always a favorite article for me.  It’s nice to have someone confirm what I was seeing...the offense had a plan to get receivers open all day.  The first drive looked different than previous games.  Gattis is modernizing the offense.  Let’s hope this is the another visible sign of an offense that seems to be ascending since the PSU game.  Let’s see this in the bowl game.