First BCS Rankings Out
October 14th, 2012 at 8:44 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:48 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:51 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 9:16 PM ^
We got demolished by the #1 team, had 6 turnovers against the #5 team, barely beat #94, and demolished #66, #84, and #120. What type of evidence is there to place us higher than #35? If we win the next two weeks against #34 and #36 (according to the computers) - especially if they are by decent margins - we will move up significantly. Don't worry about it.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:26 PM ^
do the BCS computers now incorporate margin of victory? Shouldn't matter if Michigan beats msu by 1 or 100, according to the BCS computer ratings (although we'd all prefer the latter). It would, of course, matter somewhat to the voters, so MOV is still important in that respect.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:31 PM ^
"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning"
October 14th, 2012 at 11:13 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 10:03 PM ^
You're right, I was talking about the ranking in general. Nothing changes, though. We lost to #1 and #5 and beat #66, #84, #94, #120. When we beat #34 and #36, then we'll move up.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:22 PM ^
I believe one or two of them do. Excluding garbage time and various factors...
October 14th, 2012 at 11:55 PM ^
It was disallowed sometime in the mid-aughts (2005?). Sagarin publishes his calculations that include MOV, but they're not part of the BCS formula.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:52 AM ^
Ahh good to know. Thanks.
October 15th, 2012 at 8:41 AM ^
I like it when you use numbers to talk dirty to me
October 14th, 2012 at 8:55 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^
Uhh don't mean to be that guy, but those turnovers happened. I'd contest that our offense was very stoppable in that game.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:47 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 10:25 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 11:07 PM ^
Agreed. A loss is a loss, but some hurt more.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:26 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 10:49 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 11:24 PM ^
So you are counting on the same things to happen in each of those 10 games? NDs offense to be sluggish, defense is stout... Or Denard doesn't turn into a turnover machine and ND stays the same. Can't have it both ways.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:16 AM ^
Yes you can.
October 15th, 2012 at 9:01 AM ^
Yeah I would expect Notre Dame's offense to be sluggish. Because except for one game against Miami, it's been pathetic
October 14th, 2012 at 11:26 PM ^
The thing is, I'm not convinced that we have serious problems. We're by no means elite and passing is an issue, but our offense moved the ball consistantly at times against Notre Dame. I understand your quote but I don't think its applicable. There was no guarantee we'd keep turning the ball over and they by no means had a comfortable enough lead to see if we would. Do you really think Notre Dame would take that chance against us after the past few years?
October 15th, 2012 at 10:01 AM ^
If you considered Bama holding your offense, ND held you for just 20 more yards. You don't consider Denards bad throws the result of the DL being in his face?
October 14th, 2012 at 8:57 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:58 PM ^
Or Stanford.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:01 PM ^
Any reason that you're leaving #15 Rutgers out of this? Maybe because we'd beat them by five scores? Their most impressive win is... nine points over Arkansas? eight points over Syracuse?
Rankings suck.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:46 PM ^
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs
28) Northwestern
29) Michigan
32) Wisconsin
33) Nebraska
35) Michigan State
No other Big Ten team registers with a BCS average. Alabama is one, we are ND is four.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:10 PM ^
Win next week and we're in. Win the week after that and we're probably in the top-20. Ain't no thang.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^
Of the 44 teams whose BCS average is a non-zero number, nine of them are Big XII teams. Only Kansas was left out (which, at 1-5...well...anyway...). The Pac-12 and SEC have seven teams each. The Big Ten rings in with five teams and the ACC with four. The remaining 13 teams are spread between independents (ND, who else?), the Big East, MWC, MAC, Sun Belt, WAC and C-USA.
October 15th, 2012 at 1:31 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:56 PM ^
over Air Force, UMASS, Purdue and Illiniois.
That's why
October 14th, 2012 at 9:41 PM ^
October 15th, 2012 at 9:03 AM ^
Iowa State lost by 6 to Kansas State
October 14th, 2012 at 10:00 PM ^
on the cbssports site - right above the 4 schools in the Penalty box is the worst team in FBS, UMass. We've lost to #1 and #5, but our wins are over #66, #84, #94, and #120.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
Overreact? Overreact.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:58 PM ^
THIS MAKES ME SO MAD THAT I WANT TO THROW MY COUCH OFF OF MY ROOF AND BURN IT WHILE PLAYING A UKULELE, SITTING NAKED IN VANILLA PUDDING THAT"S TOPPED WITH CINNAMON AND NUTMEG.
October 14th, 2012 at 9:13 PM ^
Call it The Aristocrats.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:30 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^
By their own standards Michigan has a better resume than Texas or Iowa State. Lost on the road to better opponents than either of them. This is just dumb.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^
And they beat better opponents than us.
A big problem for Michigan in the computer polls is that UMass is dead last, and dragging down their strength of schedule. the Colley Rankings have a tool to add/remove games. Replace UMass with Bowling Green (still a blowout, but ranked #72 there instead of Umass' #138) and Michigan moves up to #27 from #38. This is the same exact problem that the basketball team had last year.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:55 PM ^
If we win the B1G, we go to the Rose Bowl, no matter what the BCS poll says.
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October 14th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^
You truly are a master of the spoonerism.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:14 AM ^
I beg to differ... It's early so I gotta go shake a tower..
October 15th, 2012 at 11:23 AM ^
I have to go use the restroom.
October 14th, 2012 at 8:54 PM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 9:35 PM ^
So you're saying our biggest victories were losses? That's so Notre Dame.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^
They are 4-2 just like us. They beat Wyoming (107), New Mexico (67), Ole Miss (55), and Okie State (34). They lost a close one to the #8 team and got curb stomped by an untested #13 Oklahoma (yes, I said it, wins over UTEP and Florida A&M while losing to K State means nothing). Yet Texas is #25 in the BCS with almost half as many coaches votes.
I'd call it Notre Dame with a point.