October 31st, 2020 at 9:46 AM ^
SPARTY NOOO
shit wait, wrong post
October 31st, 2020 at 9:47 AM ^
Looks like they’ve turned the corner.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
More like wandered out into traffic.
(but I do see what you did there)
October 31st, 2020 at 9:58 AM ^
No politics something something something
October 31st, 2020 at 10:34 AM ^
See what you did there, I like it. Except there's no corner to turn since all 22 of them are playing video games and are fine, just like all the other positives in football this year
October 31st, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
Yup - at some point we have to get away from counting positive cases for a disease for which a significant percentage never even suffer symptoms, over 90% don’t go to the hospital and over 99.5% survive. Not saying that covid isn’t real and shouldn’t be taken seriously, but the obsession with “positive cases” is misplaced and leading to bad public policy decisions. Many of these positive cases have such a low viral load that they are almost no risk of transmission or serious effects. The current testing is binary - covid or no covid - meaning that a person with even the lowest detectable viral load will test positive. If we did that every year with any number of other contagious virus infections, the “positive” counts would be similar and we would never leave our houses.
The more troubling accurate and important stat is hospitalizations. On that metric, the state of Wisconsin is heading In A bad direction, but the college football players testing posture are not.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
100%. Covid is real and serious, particularly for a segment of the population, generally speaking those over 50, but when we keep talking about cases without any other context, we are not doing the public a service. On Gameday someone said thoughts and prayers to Trevor Lawrence, as if he had a serious risk. He doesn't, nor do others in his age group (with of course the occasional exception). Our focus should be on hospitalizations, and currently in some states they are trending badly, to your point. We should consider this seriously, just as we should also acknowledge where the risks are low.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:35 AM ^
Let's talk about Trevor Lawrence's dad or his grandfather...deeply and respectfully religious types. Let's talk about their congregations. Let's talk about CoVid 87. It's never been about the players. It is about US. The U.S.
Enjoy the game but don't pretend it is the smart play. It was/is not.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:28 AM ^
"... we have to get away from counting positive cases for a disease for which a significant percentage never even suffer symptoms ..."
Interesting start ...
"Not saying that covid isn’t real and shouldn’t be taken seriously ..."
You pretty much just did say that, in your classic long-winded fashion.
"Many of these positive cases have such a low viral load that they are almost no risk of transmission or serious effects."
I'm sure you dug that out of a reputable medical journal. Maybe you could include a citation.
"... never leave our houses."
Obligatory (for you) hyperbolic statement ...
"... more troubling accurate and important stat is hospitalizations."
Not unreasonable. Now, do you think the total number of cases just might be correlated with hospitalizations?
October 31st, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^
While the mortality risk from covid is much lower for college age students, case trends do in fact provide important context on the trajectory of Covid. Rising case counts in the first two waves were in fact followed by rising hospitalizations and by rising deaths. The same trend is occurring in this third wave. Because you see case counts increase first, it provides a signal that can be used to take more aggressive action to slow the spread.
With regards to football players, while the risk to them personally is low, going to a game involves getting in buses, planes, staying in hotels etc. All of these activities risk spread to other people who may not be as low risk.
October 31st, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
Most other contagious viruses do not kill over 200,000 people. The reason that people are concerned about positive cases here more than in other viruses is that Covid actually kills many more people than other viruses.
People would not be concerned with rising case counts if they were not being followed by rising hospital counts and death counts.
Since in your silly straw, those tests for other viruses would in fact not be followed by anywhere near as drastic rises in hospitalizations and deaths, people would be nowhere near as worried about the rising case counts.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:07 AM ^
An exponential spike does look like a corner.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:49 AM ^
yeah, we might not have a game to play on November 14th.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:02 AM ^
Does Chattanooga have an open date? Scott Frost approves.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:34 AM ^
I would honestly love to witness the temper tantrum from Nebraska fans if the B1G allowed other schools to schedule other games
October 31st, 2020 at 10:46 AM ^
Just wait. He's likely to have a temper tantrum about something else. Or trolling on behalf of his buddy Day.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:50 AM ^
Can anyone give an updated analysis based on these numbers as to if we will be able to play them in 14 days?
October 31st, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^
It's impossible to know as of now. Everything is based on a 7 day rolling average of % of the total population that has tested positive along with % of tests that come back positive. The relevant numbers won't be known until the end of next week when we see how many cases they have, and more importantly how many new cases.
Wisconsin entered a mandatory 7 day quarantine for all players/staff on Wednesday so in theory by this upcoming Wednesday we should see the total damage. Everyone is in their own hotel room and after 7 days of isolation no spread should occur in those 7 days, and testing will identify any currently non-identified positives.
We'll find out whether Wisconsin will meet the requirements to play Purdue next week soon enough, but I think our game against them (and even the Purdue game) should theoretically be in line to happen. If you're in the Red/Red designation you have to cancel, but Red/Orange is still just a suggestion to consider the viability of scheduled competition. If by next week Wisconsin has more than 5% of their population positive (likely) but under 7.5% tests in the past 7 days as positive (likely if the 7 day shutdown is followed) they'd be eligible to play. And if they feel the spread has been stopped in house at that point, I feel like they'd play. Fast forward another week to our game and it's even more likely they meet all criteria to play, especially since they can only miss 2 games and be eligible for the B1G title game.
Obviously any of this can be thrown off if the spread continues. Either from a false negative allowing someone to continue infecting people, someone breaking quarantine, or even just the state of Wisconsin being a hotbed and a new person getting infected after this initial quarantine ends.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
thank you.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:46 AM ^
I'm afraid your last point is going to bite Wisconsin.
I'll be very surprised if the Purdue game is played. If it's spread that much over the last few days, they're in line for more positive tests. It's hard for me to believe they'll get good enough news on Wednesday.
October 31st, 2020 at 9:51 AM ^
22 players, or population?
October 31st, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
he said it was 10 or 12 staff, and the rest were players.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:15 AM ^
That makes a big difference I assume, with the whole population rate vs team rate or whatever. And I assume staff wouldn't have to wait 21 days like players (???).
October 31st, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
Oh fuck
October 31st, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
So basically Wisconsin gets a 6 game season at best
October 31st, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^
Maybe they'll do it like the MLB and just change the rules and make double-headers of 35 minute games, lol.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^
Still have work to do to match Clemson who had 28 positives in June... oh and they're 6-0 ranked #1 now!... reports of Wisconsin's demise are greatly exaggerated!
October 31st, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^
Do you do anything besides downplay pandemics on MGoBlog, or is that a full-time position for you?
October 31st, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
At this time, if I heard my wife correctly, there are indications that immunity lasts for, at least, 5 months. So, as with many things in this regard, we will see-on all counts of your otherwise obtuse take.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:10 AM ^
Even if we could play them in two weeks, would we want to? Time to write the Badgers off the year and have the rest of the teams that can follow protocols compete.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:16 AM ^
I know you are half joking probably but I legit think there is a chance Wisc misses 3 games in a row. At that point with no chance at a B1G title there will be calls to shut it down I bet
October 31st, 2020 at 10:14 AM ^
Let’s enjoy every game. However many we have left... glad we’ll get to stomp MSU before this season is a wrap
October 31st, 2020 at 11:07 AM ^
Never has the adage coaches have preached for years “we aren’t looking ahead, we are taking the season one game at a time” taken on so much meaning. Let’s enjoy each week, especially one where we get to demolish MSU, as, if it comes.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
Off topic but what is your current work places policy on Coronavirus positives? I work on a flightline and if someone pops positive they just send him home for 10-14 days and business continues as usual. Is that pretty much the norm in the workplace?
October 31st, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
At what point does the B1G just give up on the idea of making bowls and just extend the regular season and B1G "Finals" dates? I'd almost prefer that anyway.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
How did they go from 12 players/staff positives to 22 after shutting football down?
October 31st, 2020 at 10:54 AM ^
The incubation period varies from one person to another. Too many known and unknown factors to even try to list them here at this moment.
October 31st, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
22 players or ....
Something smells here.
October 31st, 2020 at 11:18 AM ^
And Brandon Peters tested positive - so Wisconsin is out here infecting everyone...