xtramelanin

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:47 AM ^

Ironically, it was hockey that got me into Michigan. But after college, I started playing football and never quit till I was in my 40s. And I’ve been coaching ever since, and with the four oldest boys playing I mean football is king.

East Quad

April 3rd, 2021 at 2:19 PM ^

There were freshman hockey players in East Quad when I was there 73 - 77. I can only recall one guy's name. It was Billy Wheeler. We had some decent talent on our IM football and volleyball teams because of the hockey players.

victors2000

April 3rd, 2021 at 12:11 PM ^

'It' has taken a beating. The basketball 'it' is fantastic. Coach Beilein, and now Coach Howard, have really brought the basketball program to life. Because the team is smaller, you get to see them and experience what they experience. The joy, the sorrow. Its easy to get invested. The execution of the team has been a joy to watch. The success, the winning. The confidence. They have built up excellence; I don't see how State can say they are the basketball program in the state anymore. Football, on the other hand, is a different 'it' than it has historically been. Before, we were excellence; now it has had this weight of expectations that for the longest time has been unfulfilled. Ohio State is on a totally different level than we are; I wouldn't believe anyone who has a sense of positivity for that game in November. On top of that game, we've been passed up by Wisconsin - you know we have - and Freaking Indiana is a thorn in our side now. The culture is another thing. There is a true brotherhood with the basketball team. All for one, one for all. In football, between the transfers and the lack of continuity both on offense and defense, the culture is a team struggling to regain its culture, with a coach that has changed his 'culture' a few times since he's been here. I hope the football team gets it together, but right now I feel it's just going to open up the same wounds. It's hard to get behind something that causes so much pain.

Broken Brilliance

April 3rd, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^

What proof do you have that the football players aren't close? Transfers? Explain Castleton and DeJulius then. Crap like this unfortunately perpetuates the shitty "choose one sport to care about" mindset that everyone on the front page save for Seth has been speaking into existence. It's very sad that it's either seeped into most of the posters here or driven many better posters away.

Hotel Putingrad

April 3rd, 2021 at 10:52 AM ^

I suppose Washington is the swing game between 7-5 and 8-4.

I'd like to believe that in year 3 of Speed in Space, we'll finally see a cohesive passing attack, but I think the defense will be an absolute trainwreck.

The big question is whether Harbaugh resigns after yet another OSU bloodletting.

moetown91

April 3rd, 2021 at 7:15 PM ^

Really Victors2000?   Isn't that why the Bucks kick our ass all the time...because of the emphasis on the rivalry!  If teams with lesser talent (see Purdue, Iowa) can beat them than why can't we.  The game is physical and talent matters for sure, but kids gotta get up and play.

The OSU players said it themselves about what this game means.  Our guys gotta believe they can win....they need to want it more on every single day of the year and have that mentality carry over to game day.  You don't just get up on game day.....

Giving up and saying we can't win is losers mentality.....

just my 2 cents...

goblue

UMich2016

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:03 AM ^

Running game should be good.  The quarterback reports on Rivals are sobering.  

Defense is a complete unknown... but likely lacks enough talent to be that good.

corundum

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^

5 star QBs start as freshman and support great passing attacks every season across CFB. If Harbaugh/Gattis can't simplify the offense enough with the talent we have at OL and RB to put out at least a middle of the road performance with one of our two QBs, then happy days will not be had.

bronxblue

April 3rd, 2021 at 12:12 PM ^

I've come to take reports from camps about the quality of QB play with a grain of salt.  They can't be as wrong as they were the past couple of years about QB play and then suddenly get it "right" now.  

I think the QB position is unsettled, but considering the turnover on the roster and coaching staff, including positional changes, I wouldn't be surprised if they look janky right now.  

moetown91

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:08 AM ^

I have really mixed feelings about this.....while I'm tired of camp hype year in and year out as I end up disappointed to no end.... I do think the program would do itself some favors by being a little more open to fans and the media.  Maybe it's just me but I think transparency buys you something and doesn't alienate the public and give them reasons to grind their axe.....

Jimmyisgod

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:10 AM ^

I’m excited. Not because I think we’ll be good, but because I want to see how the young guys develop and what the new staff does to rebuild.  

A Lot of Milk

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:21 AM ^

Can we upset even a single team? The closest thing Harbaugh has to an upset win at Michigan is murdering a bad ND team, and even then we were still favored

When is the last time we upset anybody? 

nowicki2005

April 3rd, 2021 at 11:22 AM ^

I am hoping for a rebound 8 win season. 

 

It all comes down to the Washington game though. If we get beat, the boos in the stadium will be deafening. Harbaugh has been a man who has looked defeated lately. I don't think the team can be rebound from the booing of our stadium. Harbaugh would look even more lost after making a lot of staff changes. I'm not hoping for this but I think it would snowball. I know its a different team in a lot of ways but we haven't shown much backbone lately when thr going gets tough (like embarrasing ourselves in bowl games)

Michfan777

April 3rd, 2021 at 12:17 PM ^

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Michigan Athletic Department’s success is a zero sum game based on like a hundred point system, and for both Basketball teams to be successful, the department had to take 20-30 points from the football team. Other sports programs then took another 10-20 points.

On a real note, I think they win 5-7 games, and Harbaugh gets to stay for 2022. God I hope I’m wrong and the program goes 11+ wins OR Harbaugh is axed. 

Gulogulo37

April 3rd, 2021 at 7:12 PM ^

Ok but it should only be a win or 2 less than 11. This team should absolutely be better than 8 wins. It's still tied for 2nd in talent in conference with PSU. Being dogshit last year isn't a good excuse for having a 2nd bad season. I don't expect the defense to be great because of the overhaul but the defense was terrible last year. It's not like there's an overhaul because Brown was so good he got an HC job.

Durham Blue

April 3rd, 2021 at 6:42 PM ^

If the team gets to 9 wins this season then it would be a big success and a feather in Harbaugh's cap.  A 10+ win season and Harbaugh should earn that half of his salary back that he lost this season.  A 7/8 win season is status quo and he buys himself another year.  Anything less than 7 wins and I think it's time to move on.

AlbanyBlue

April 3rd, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^

Offense is talented but OL will be a weakness and play-calling will be mismanaged yet again. We don't have much demonstrated talent on D and apparently they will be tasked with running a complicated "multiple" NFL-style system.

5-7 / 6-6 / 7-5 and Harbaugh tries for the NFL again, is rebuffed, and stays at M. The ultimate in football malaise.

UofM Die Hard …

April 3rd, 2021 at 2:08 PM ^

We better score lots of points...but that ain’t happening. 
 

sigh... no juice or excitement on my end at all.  I used to crave any M football content at any time of the year. Now i only crave anything but football content. 
 

basketball, baseball, hockey, swimming. Anything else 

NeverPunt

April 3rd, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^

Truth is we have no idea what to expect here - we have enough talent at most spots to win games but need to have the coaching and preparation to do it. The schedule isn’t an easy one but it never is. At least we had some change for this year, so we don’t know for sure we are getting the same old same old. We shall see if it was enough change or if more is needed. Either way I’ll cheer for them and hope for the best but can’t say I’m optimistic. One game at a time. Week One, let’s get a win and go from there.

uminks

April 3rd, 2021 at 6:56 PM ^

In phase 2 of Harbaugh's rebuilding, I think 7 wins would be the goal. Though I would not be surprised if our floor is 5 wins and our ceilings is 9. I expect another reaming by OSU, which sucks. I'm getting sick of the losing streak and very irritated by the blowouts.

There're so many toss up games this season, Washington, Northwestern, @ NE, @ MSU,IU, @ Maryland.

Losses will be @ WI, @ PSU and OSU.

Wins: NIU, Rutgers,

If we win all the toss ups, we could finish at 9 wins, which is possible. If we beat @ NE, @ MSU, IU and @ Maryland we would be at 8 wins.

Though this season could implode on Harbaugh and if it does and he only get 2 to 3 wins, he should be shown the door. He will be at RR level. 

Ghost of Fritz…

April 3rd, 2021 at 7:08 PM ^

Too much pessimism on this board.

I have no idea how many games M wins in 2021.

But way too many posters are too overconfident that the result will be bad.   

Only those who are very inside the program have any idea one way or the other.

Roster talent is good enough to have a pretty good year. 

Big dysfunction in the coach in staff could undermine that, as could poor moral/team chemistry, or injuries. 

But no one posting here knows one way or another if those problems will drag down the results.

 

Ghost of Fritz…

April 4th, 2021 at 10:21 AM ^

Another good example of what I am talking about. 

You are so negative that you can't even perceive facts and reality straight.

First, Harbaugh is averaging 8 wins per year at Michigan, even factoring the disaster season last fall.

Second, who said it has 'become okay'?  

JH should be averaging 10 wins per year.  He has underperformed.  But that does not mean that anyone here has enough inside knowledge to be so confidently predicting things like '7 wins would be a reach' for 2021, or 'no way Michigan can stop Maryland'  etc., etc.