Quinshon Judkins leaving Ole Miss Star RB-Rumor is not enough NIL
Just saw news on his departure come across X. I have some good buddies who are dialed into Ole Miss and LSU. My Ole Miss friend walked on at QB for a year, but decided it was not for him.
Anyways, I texted to see if maybe he left because they were making him go to class. He said that the reason he is leaving is because Ole Miss did not step up on additional NIL. My LSU buddy is saying the same thing with their guys.
I know this is not new, but I find this fascinating given Michigan's issues with NIL and how in many ways their current stance will likely have some benefit to the football program in the short term.(Overall not a fan of Michigan current NIL)
The locker rooms at most big time programs have got to be a mess right now. When even the Ole Miss and LSU slappies are complaining, you know the current structure cannot last.
They started discussing ways to fix it with actual contracts, but I don't think that is legal per the NCAA? Anyways, it is a timely topic with Michigan in the Finals with their NIL approach. Maybe the team approach actually matters??
GO BLUE!
January 4th, 2024 at 1:11 PM ^
Probably helps to be rich, coming off 11 wins, and dating a women 20 years his junior.
January 4th, 2024 at 1:07 PM ^
Watched a few Ole Miss games as they are a fun offense. Good player this year not great (was great prior year for a freshman) - ypc on same amount of carries dropped from 5.7 to 4.3, 2022 to 2023. That's not great.
And wants a raise.
Ok boomer.
January 4th, 2024 at 1:08 PM ^
Been meaning to ask this for a while:
what’s stopping some loaded M fan from paying some recruit for an endorsement deal? Do M players have to accept NIL from the collective and nowhere else?
January 4th, 2024 at 2:17 PM ^
Players cannot be forced to accept money from some source (e.g., the collective). That would defeat the entire purpose. If you were a multimillionaire who owned your own car dealerships you could sign Underwood to do a series of TV commercials for you right now and pay him $2M.
January 4th, 2024 at 2:48 PM ^
Isn’t that basically what every school is doing? Where tf are our car dealership owners when you finally need one
January 4th, 2024 at 6:25 PM ^
Most schools are coordinating with donors to get them to pour all their money into a “collective,” which handles all the compensation
January 4th, 2024 at 1:09 PM ^
Seems sorta crazy, but just like in real job markets, the best way to get paid more is to switch jobs
And guys that are in it for the bag are gonna always be in it for the bag
Personally I am pretty happy with how we seem to be employing NIL and building our team culture
January 4th, 2024 at 4:32 PM ^
That is so true. I have hired a few people at my new company from where i worked previously for 18 years. I knew what they made. They were people who spent 10 - 15 years at the same place.
January 4th, 2024 at 1:16 PM ^
New NIL plan for bag schools - stop paying for high school recruits, and ONLY pay for transfer portal targets.
They'll have used up their free transfer making it harder to leave (they would have to sit out a year, and probably miss out on a year of money)
January 4th, 2024 at 1:29 PM ^
One topic that gets considerably glossed over is that donors forking over large amounts of cash to football programs are the same folks who are donating money to those same schools.....there are only so many donors with large enough wallets out there and it's difficult to keep asking the same people for more money over and over - the system has essentially turned into schools jockeying for dollars with their own players - add this to the fact there is a lot of "bait and switch" tactics going on and this is the outcome you receive.
January 4th, 2024 at 1:42 PM ^
So having your entire team become free agents every year is a problem. What a shocker!
January 4th, 2024 at 1:56 PM ^
Not surprisingly, many schools are offering much more than they can deliver. ie Miami.
How Ole Miss can even be in the same conversation with Alabama, Georgia, LSU is a mystery to me.
January 4th, 2024 at 1:57 PM ^
wen salary cap
wen cba?
January 4th, 2024 at 2:43 PM ^
There's a difference - IMO.
NIL is not salary. NIL is the equivalent of "State Farm" having a marketing / promotional / endoresement agreement with Mahomes and members of the KC team / staff.
The NFL has no control over - nor is there a limit on - what outside organizations (third parties) can spend on endorsements or promotions.
I don't know how Michigan positions NIL to prospects - both from high school and transfer. If I had a perspective to share (which I don't in any official or formal capacity) - it would be - "Preparing you for life and the forty year plan."
Personally, would having a car to get from your apartment to class, to practice, and back home be helpful? Yes, it would. So, what kind of car do you need? Would an exotic be a nice thing - a Ferrari, Mercedes, or Lambo be nice? Sure, it would. But, we'd suggest you wait until your other responsibilities are taken care of first - planning for your future - having your home - your retirement foundation - first. Then, as a professional - with your second contract - buy the car you want. There's accountability and responsibility.
January 4th, 2024 at 2:04 PM ^
🔥Well it’s sounds like Judkins and the rest of 🇺🇸 knows the SEC is overrated and he wants to play for the best conference the B1G🔥
〽️Go Blue〽️
January 4th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^
Here's what I don't understand about all this:
Teams cannot pay players directly. Third parties cannot directly pay players to come to the school they boost. Right? So, players are not signing "contracts" with boosters who pay NIL because it's not legit to pay for play. Instead a car dealership signs a contract for the player to do a TV commercial and compensates him $1M.
So what the hell is stopping players from taking their NIL money and literally just leaving? The car dealership can't force the player to stay and play for their team. Even if that's the unwritten agreement, it could never be enforced. Do Ewers and these guys seriously get paid millions of dollars and then scoot with no repercussions?
January 4th, 2024 at 2:28 PM ^
I would think that the contract could be structured such that being a member of a certain team is a material term and that while some of the money under the contract is given upfront, a large portion is paid over time. The contract can provide that if the player is no longer a member of the team for any reason, he voids the contract. That would likely be upheld as a valid contract term. If I am a car dealership in Columbus, an endorsement from a member of the OSU football team would be valuable, whereas an endorsement from a member of the Georgia football team would be worthless. Such a clause would likely survive any challenge.
January 4th, 2024 at 2:24 PM ^
Nick Saban was just on the Pat Mcafee Show (I don't generally watch, but it was on while I was in the gym) and Saban was raising the same concerns about the current state of NIL - that college football is basically pay to play now.
To me, it's not just NIL, but the combination of the way that NIL has evolved and the way that the portal is structured that is creating the problem. NIL allows kids to simply select the highest bidder and then the portal allows them to revisit that decision every single year. Players are now just 1-year rentals. While I have not done any analysis, I would bet 100 MGoPoints that the players who choose based upon the size of the bag are also the most likely to transfer for even bigger bag elsewhere (or transfer at even the slightest hint of adversity).
I think that what we will see in the long term is that the Michigan model of bringing in high character kids who fall in the high 3* low-mid 4* range (with the occasional high 4* and 5* thrown in), keeping those kids for 3-5 years and developing those kids, while building consistency and team chemistry, will be more successful than what schools like Miami are doing.
January 4th, 2024 at 2:26 PM ^
This is like when I sign up for Verizon because they have a deal for new customers that is better than my current company. And then Sprint comes along and offers an even better deal for their new customers. I look around and compare my Verizon bill and it's been a while now and my bill is higher than it was when I signed up in the first place. New customers to Verizon are now getting a better deal than me, the existing customer. So I make the switch to Sprint so that I can be the "new customer" and pay less money.
January 4th, 2024 at 2:47 PM ^
Was he looking for a Lamborghini?