Pixel Question for TV Techie Nerds

Submitted by Great Cornholio on February 25th, 2021 at 1:54 PM

(Not OT, since I most DEFINITELY would be watching M sports on this TV...)

Someone local to me is offering a used 52" Sony Bravia XBR 1080p LCD HDTV with 120Hz refresh rate (model: Sony KDL-52XBR4) for $100. The catch: one dead pixel, in the upper left area of the screen.

The single dead pixel doesn't really bug me, since I'd be using this in the basement as a secondary TV, and it would largely be used for my mgochild to play Donkey Kong and Mario on a 10-year-old Wii.

My question: can the dead pixel "spread," infecting other (unmasked, Republican congressmen) pixels on the screen? Or is this a one-off?

Secondary question: is this a pretty fair deal? It's the max size that will work for the space we're using it. I grew up watching grainy Amyre Makeupson KBD newscasts and Iron Sheik wrestling matches on a set with rabbit ears (guess my age, win Jason Bossard basketball card - hint: that's another clue!), so fancy picture quality and stereo awesomeness is not a huge concern.

RGard

February 25th, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^

One dead pixel?  Sounds like it has Sypixelis or maybe HPV (Human Pixelis Virus).  Don't let your kid near it.

Personally, I'd just buy a new one.  They're cheap enough and you can take it back if you want.

I hear on you aging.  I remember watching Bruno Sammartino and Jumpin' Johnny DeFazio on a rabbit ears tv.

Grampy

February 25th, 2021 at 3:19 PM ^

The inescapable flaw (apart from weight, power consumption, and $100 for a TV you couldn’t give me) is picture quality. 1080 will always be 1080 and the world has already moved on from that resolution. Cheap units are all 4K now and many are doing a better job of LED backlighting (many LEDs >>> few LEDs) and upsampling, i.e,, converting HD input to the TV’s native UHD resolution. This is the time to get off your wallet, as you won’t care about the extra $300 you spent in 6 months. 

nerv

February 25th, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^

If you have a little bit of extra cash I would just go get a new TV. You can get 50" smart TV's with a lot more features, better picture, wireless, no dead pixels for less than 300 these days. 

This is nearly a 15 year old model, its probably quite a bit heavier/larger than a new TV as well. Personally I can't unsee dead pixels. My eyes just get glued to them. While they don't 'spread' per say an older TV that already has one dead is likely to get more in the near future.

bluebrains98

February 25th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^

Having just given away my used Sony 52" LCD for free (with no dead pixels), why don't you counter offer for $25 and roll the dice. Trust me, the person doesn't want to be stuck with an old, unused TV. You are doing him a favor to take it off his hands.

BlueSpiceIn SEC.hell

February 25th, 2021 at 6:42 PM ^

Normally I would wholeheartedly agree with you, BUT based on experience I would pass. I did the same thing once, the TV died after 4 days and as a result became MY headache to get rid of the large, aged piece of plastic and metal. The new one I purchased 6 years ago  has become the basement tv and still working.

Spend a little more for a new one

1VaBlue1

February 25th, 2021 at 2:15 PM ^

If you can swing $200-300 for a new one, get the new one.  I 'rescued' my parents old TV (Panasonic Viera) I bought them decades ago, when my mom died last year.  It's too old to stream anything on its own, and too heavy for me to hang on the wall (by myself).  Great picture, but it also acts as a legendary space heater - overheating my bedroom in about 30 minutes.

You will notice the dead pixel without it affecting your viewing, and it won't spread like a virus.  But, like was said earlier, you'll get more - and they are not fixable.  So it comes down to cost - if can swing a couple hundred for a new one, get a new one.

Naked Bootlegger

February 25th, 2021 at 2:42 PM ^

I love my trusty (and old) Panasonic Viera's picture.   But damn, you're spot on.  It's a space heater.   I will not miss that aspect when I replace it in the near future.

To get more on topic, I will probably advertise my Viera for $25 OBO when I get rid of it.  In other words, if you offer to pick it up, it's yours for the taking.   I would offer significantly less than $100 for the TV you're looking at.   

 

blue in dc

February 25th, 2021 at 2:22 PM ^

Depends on lots of factors.   Are you replacing a tv you have down there now and how much of an improvement is this?    How long do you want to use it for.   If this one craps out, will you replace it with new anyway?

if you want a 50ish inch tv in your basement for the next 15 years, I would buy new.   If this is just a nice to have and you won’t replace it if it craps out, I would counter offer significantly less.   If a comparable new tv can be had for $300 and it would last you 15 years, you are paying $20 a year.    Assume this one gets you 5 years, why would you pay $20/year for something of inferior quality.

FieldingBLUE

February 25th, 2021 at 2:24 PM ^

Agreed with getting a new one. 

Figured I'd share a quick story re TVs.

I have a 50 LED from TCL with Roku. My family was watching it last week when they noticed a burning smell. They assumed the 17yo was cooking something fried in the kitchen.

Turns out the LEDs in the lower left corner overheated. Picture started to flicker slightly and bright halo in corner plus MELTED the frame.

It's nearly 6 years old.

I immediately bought a replacement online for $280 figuring I'll upgrade later.

Decided to send photos to TCL of their melting TV, requesting maybe a gift card or something for the trouble. They waived the warranty expiration and are providing a FREE replacement. Now that's customer service!

Sambojangles

February 25th, 2021 at 2:39 PM ^

TCL is a Chinese company, I think, so I was hesitant to buy my everyday TV from them. I did, and haven't had any issues. It is a 40" Roku from about 2014. About a year in something happened and there were large bars across the top making it unwatchable. I sent them a picture, they sent me a new TV within a week. No hassle at all. The built-in Roku is getting old but still works well with my wifi and all the different streaming services I use. Much better than my 2020 Samsung SmartTV, which pauses on the ESPN app and has issues connecting to the wifi on a regular basis.

username

February 25th, 2021 at 10:23 PM ^

Just piling on about a positive experience with a TCL w/Roku. I bought a 50” at Costco for less than $300 including tax. I use it on our covered, but not weather tight deck. I keep it covered when not in use, but it definitely experiences more temperature and humidity fluctuations than you’d ever see in the house. 
 

So far, it has been a fantastic alternative to the $2,000+ outdoor TVs. And I also really like having Roku built in. It works great with Xfinity’s Streaming app. 

SysMark

February 25th, 2021 at 3:04 PM ^

You can get a new, modern LED, same size, for under $300.  These things are actually a pain to get rid of.   You could be doing someone a big favor just taking it for free.  IMHO.

Great Cornholio

February 25th, 2021 at 3:18 PM ^

Thanks all - this made my decision easy - I sent the guy an email and told him to shove his giant shitty old TV up his a$$!

Actually I just never emailed him. Things I learned today:

-Dead pixels don't spread, but they're annoying like the pea to the princess

-Ohio is the place to dump old unwanted TVs (and it's close to where I live!)

-I can expect to get a pretty darn acceptable new 50" TV for $300

And the least surprising thing ever:

-Chinese TVs can burn your house down

3 hours, 45 minutes until we bite the head off a Hawkeye and drink its blood! I am PSYCHED! Go Blue!

 

GOBLUE4EVR

February 25th, 2021 at 3:28 PM ^

with LCD's if there is one pixel that is out, that could lead to the "drip" effect where you will end up with an entire row of pixels going out from top to bottom... which mean that the main board is dying a slow death... but if you are only going to be using it for video games and stuff like that then go for it.

i have an old 42" Sony in my basement from 2005 that came out of a closing blockbuster and i got it in 2012 and that thing still runs like a champ, considering it was on 24/7 in a blockbuster for 5 plus years and then was my main TV from 2015 until 2019...

othernel

February 25th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^

Only get it if you just need a TV to keep in a guest room or as a secondary TV.

Right now, you shouldn't get anything that isn't 4k. TCL screens are basically dirt cheap and come with a lot of smart features, and you can nab one for around $250-300 on sale.

FrankMurphy

February 25th, 2021 at 3:43 PM ^

I don't think there's any concept of pixel failure "spreading" to other pixels. It's not like cancer.

Having said that, at that price point and that feature set, I would just spend a little more and buy a new TV. You can get a brand new 50" 4K TV of a decent and reputable brand (e.g., Vizio or something) for $250-$350 these days, and you'll have a warranty in case of dead pixels.

Paying a 3-figure sum for a 10 year-old TV is dicey, IMHO.