OT: Sandusky's adopted son admits to being a victim

Submitted by 1464 on

I debated on whether or not to post this, but its an important turn of events in an obviously large news story.

Jerry Sandusky's adopted son has now changed his mind and has sought attourney against his adopted father.  My thought on this is maybe Mrs. Sandusky should start talking more closely to a lawyer.  I have to believe there are way too many layers to this thing, its just sick to think about...

http://news.yahoo.com/sanduskys-son-says-father-abused-him-213046792--spt.html

1464

June 21st, 2012 at 6:20 PM ^

You are correct, at least on the second count.  I was in the process of editing the OP as you posted this, I apologize for the incorrect statement.  This story gets uglier every day.  I hate to beat a dead horse, but fuck PSU for erecting a statue of a man who enabled this stuff to go on.  Michigan football means a whole lot to me, but never enough to let something like this happen...

Erik_in_Dayton

June 21st, 2012 at 6:37 PM ^

Sandusky can still be charged with abusing his son, though.  He was charged with a series of specific acts, and none of them involved the abuse of his son*, so there is no double-jeopardy issue. 

 

*Unless the son was one of the unidentified victims, of course. 

gopoohgo

June 21st, 2012 at 6:16 PM ^

This really is an awful case.  While still an 'alleged' criminal, Sandusky really needs to answer to someone (state, God, Allah, Buddah, Shiva).

The jury is probably sequestered; no outside media or personal contact, especially in THIS case.

Sopwith

June 21st, 2012 at 6:37 PM ^

they will not be sequestered for today or tomorrow, but if no verdict by the end of Friday, they get sequestered for the weekend.   So they are certainly hearing about this tonight.  Won't be surprised to see the defense file a motion for mistrial by morning.

Sopwith

June 21st, 2012 at 6:49 PM ^

it could, in theory, be grounds for a mistrial.  More likely, it will only result in some additional reminding to the jurors from the bench to only consider evidence that was before them.  But consider the hypothetical effect of someone going on TV tonight, claiming to have a written confession from Sandusky admitting all the allegations.  I can't see how a mistrial or suspension of proceedings wouldn't result.

JeepinBen

June 21st, 2012 at 7:02 PM ^

But I'll spell out the issue to which I don't know the answer. The jury has heard arguments about these 52 (now 48 i think) counts of illegal behavior. The jury is supposed to get all their facts from the trial proceedings only (this is why they asked potential jurors if they were baseball fans in the clemens trial). If members of the jury hear about this other "new" victim that could affect their judgement regarding the 52 counts against Sandusky. 

Would the "new" victim be its own trial? Don't juries rule only on what has been put before them? If it is ruled that the jury has gathered this information of a new victim and that they can't possibly rule fairly on the 52 counts with which Sandusky has been charged that could result in a mistrial - due to the jury getting outside information. 

Lawyers, which side of the line will this fall on?

BiSB

June 21st, 2012 at 7:14 PM ^

Even if they aren't physically sequestered, juries are usually instructed to not watch/read any media accounts of the trial, or anything related to the trial. This is especially true with closely-watched trials like this. 

If they complied with the court, they wouldn't have seen this. If not, they would have seen a BUNCH of stuff that would be problematic, like the unaired portion of the Costas interview, news reports of the trial, etc.

So, my guess: I doubt this affects the current trial.

Victor Hale II

June 21st, 2012 at 7:02 PM ^

Not sure about PA, but in MI state prison, it's mostly only high profile convicts that are forced to go to Protective Custody (PC). Otherwise, they need to request it. Also, if assaults occur, many times the inmates involved will be transferred to another joint. In almost 10 years working inside, I've learned that the idea of targeting pedophiles for assaults is mostly a myth. One reason is that not all inmates know who's in for what. In fact, few do. An inmate I had working for me was in for CSC, and he had lots of buddies around the joint - more than any I've seen, and I've seen many. More guys stab and beat each other over gang business, gambling debts, Ramen noodles, and Honey Buns than anything else.

Victor Hale II

June 21st, 2012 at 8:06 PM ^

I try to avoid esoteric acronyms, but I thought CSC was mainstream nowadays, as the TV news seemingly reports a new case each day. Anyway, these folks nailed the acronym. The Internet is indeed a double-edged sword. Prisons nowadays are absolutely loaded with CSC cases. It's no longer just a weirdo creeper guy in a windowless van. The anonymity of the Internet has emboldened people from all walks of life. Now, just a few points and clicks from the comfort of home are all that are required to pull these guys from hiding in the weeds and to land them in prison.

Marvin

June 21st, 2012 at 6:42 PM ^

She might also be pure evil. During her testimony she shaded her portrayal of the victims in ways that could be interpreted as defamatory. For example she called on child "clingy," another "a charmer," implying that he was conniving etc.

JeepinBen

June 21st, 2012 at 6:58 PM ^

an enabler. A pattern of behavior this ridiculous needs enabling. Same goes for the PSU officials, they were enablers. It seems like a good chunk of the PSU community was. I think the worst part of the (non-graphic) testimony was the Victim who said that when he went to a social worker the social worker didn't believe him because "Jerry is a saint"

Coastal Elite

June 21st, 2012 at 6:39 PM ^

saying that the son "confessed" to being abused seems to indicate that there's something shameful or guilty about being a victim, when the only shame here is in the actions of the perpetrator.

1464

June 21st, 2012 at 6:52 PM ^

I changed the title, as the word does have a negative connotation.  I didn't mean it in that regard at all.  In my defense and in a broader sense, confessed can simply mean that you shared a secret.  You 'confessed' your love to a girl, for instance.

Brown Bear

June 21st, 2012 at 6:54 PM ^

For many/most victims of sexual crimes coming forward is much like a confession. They feel the exact words that you said, shameful and guilty, as if it was their fault. I understand the point you are relaying but for many it is a confession, not to a crime but the shame that the crime done to them has caused.

JeepinBen

June 21st, 2012 at 6:52 PM ^

This is AN adoptive son of the Sanduskys. I believe they had many.

Yes, it's terrible and yes I think this guy gets life quickly. What I read said that if Sandusky chose to take the stand the prosecution was going to call this son as a rebuttal witness. Defense didn't want to risk having either up  on the stand. 

Erik_in_Dayton

June 21st, 2012 at 6:59 PM ^

They would have used that too...The prosecution really had Sandusky boxed in as far as whether he should testify or not.  It seems like they got in a landside of unrebutted evidence with him not testifying, but they were ready to hammer him if he did testify.  They seem to have done a really good job overall.