OT Nick Willis 4 Minute Mile Streak

Submitted by itauditbill on January 7th, 2022 at 1:34 PM

On January 1, Nick Willis (U of M BA Econ) attempted to stretch his streak out to 20 consecutive years of sub 4 minute miles. Here is the video: https://www.tracksmith.com/journal/article/midnight-mile-documentary

 

daveheal

January 7th, 2022 at 1:40 PM ^

I cannot believe Nick & Co have not made Very Nice Track Club gear for me to buy. I am a fan. Let me engage in commerce. THIS IS AMERICA, NICK.

itauditbill

January 7th, 2022 at 2:04 PM ^

Edit: Misunderstood what you wrote.

I have inquired about getting U of M stuff as I would love to wear a nice Michigan singlet. The only one I could ever get was the Alumni club shirt which is rather heavy. I've worn it a few times. 

I also got some Adidas stuff that is okay, but is getting older.

 

 

MRunner73

January 7th, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^

Greg is a former teammate and housemate. Of all the workouts and runs together as a team, I managed to beat Greg once. He didn't forget it.

As a housemate, there were 6 of us and Greg as ascending to Olympic level by then, post graduate years for Greg. He's a great guy. One of the best ever runners I trained with.

itauditbill

January 7th, 2022 at 2:02 PM ^

I got down to a 5:48 in 2018 (age 46 soon to be 47, only started running when I was like 39). That was at the Magic of the Mile in Grand Rapids. I believe I also ran a 1600 meter race a bit faster in Grand Ledge a week or so later, but can't find the times. Also an econ major... Now I'm trying to come back from injuries. Slow going.
 

WindyCityBlue

January 7th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^

That pretty remarkable!

I was a big soccer player when I was a wee lad.  I was pretty good as I played in England and represented the US during some international events.  At that age, there is nothing that better prepares your body for longevity and endurance than soccer.  When I moved back to the US in the 6th grade, I ran the mile (which is not something you do in England) and absolutely crushed it at 5:05.  As I grew, it became increasingly harder to keep that time.  By the time I was a senior in high school, I was a 6'4" beanpole, but was able to squeeze out a 5:32 mile.  

I'm your age, and I can barely get a mile in under 7 mins.  So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm jealous.

DonAZ

January 7th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

I've always thought a taller person would have the advantage at distance running, as those long legs could just lope along at a pace shorter people couldn't keep up with.  But the elite guys are never "6'4" beanpoles," as you describe.  So I guess I don't know what to think.

Then again, there's Usain Bolt, who's 6'5" ... yeah, he's a 100m guy, but I would think that kind of height would take too much time gettin' going to do that well in the 100.  So I should probably just stop typing and step away from the keyboard.

WindyCityBlue

January 7th, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^

Ha!  No need to stop because you are actually correct (and you probably don't even know it)

My one correction is that a mile run is not really considered a "distance run", it's more of a sprint.  I started to run marathons in my adult years and while I wasn't a beanpole anymore, I could sometimes get it under 4 hours.   

oriental andrew

January 7th, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^

I only ran track one season in high school (switched to soccer in the spring the next 2 years) and the fastest mile I ever ran was about 5:08. 

More recently, I ran a mile on a treadmill at 6:30, although that was a couple of years ago and I doubt I could run it much faster than 8:00 at this point (a little out of running shape). 

That year, we had a senior on our team who was ranked #1 in the country in the 1600 with a PB of 4:03. That dude was fast. 

bronxblue

January 7th, 2022 at 2:05 PM ^

Really impressive video and run by Willis.  I always found indoor tracks a bit harder to run on compared to outside, even with the weather control you get.

 

WFNY_DP

January 7th, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^

Man, when the camera is following them it doesn't even look like they're working that hard. And then they cut to a stationary shot as they all run by and you realize how fast they're all moving. I think my best mile of all time was in the high 5s, but that was back when the years started with a 19. These days (closing in on 45) I can usually do 2 miles in my neighborhood in about 15 flat if I push it, and I'm totally cool with that.

DonAZ

January 7th, 2022 at 2:22 PM ^

I've always been astonished at how those elite mile guys could keep up that pace for a mile.

A 4:00 mile works out to about 14.9 seconds per 100m.  I doubt at this age I could do the 100m in 14.9 seconds.  And those mile guys hold that pace for approximately 16 such 100m segments.

Similarly, the elite marathon guys are doing about 5:15 miles ... for 26 miles. 

I don't get it.  I can't comprehend that level of performance.

MRunner73

January 7th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

Having trained with these elites (back in the day), they are just born with that ability but also are committed to being their best both mentally and physically.

Running a 5:15 mile pace among the elites in the marathon won't buy you a cup of coffee. That's about a 2:15:00 finish time. The best are running in the 2:05 and well under 5 min/mile. Some of the African marathoners have gone 2:02. One may have broken 2 hrs in the past year or so. I'd have to check.

Blue Vet

January 7th, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^

Thanks for posting. It was fun seeing his little kids in Michigan gear.

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MMB 82

January 7th, 2022 at 4:31 PM ^

You guys probably know that the mile is the only Imperial distance where the International Whatever Committee still keeps records. But since a mile is about 1609 meters, why is the metric race distance 1500m instead of 1600m? Especially since an official track is 400m per lap? Inquiring minds are curious…

wolfman81

January 7th, 2022 at 5:21 PM ^

Note:  The NCAA runs the distances tracked by World Athletics.  Here is a link to the 2021 indoor track NCAA championship schedule. They run a full mile (and keep records) for indoor track.  But they do the 1500 in outdoor.  I think that they use distances that make metric sense in general.  So once we get above the sprint events (60m, 100m, 200m, 400m, and [arguably] 800m), the numbers become more even when expressed in km:

  • 1500m -> 1.5k (ok...still a half integer, rather than a tenth of an integer) -> 3.75 laps
  • 3000m -> 3k (flat indoors, and with steeples outdoors) -> 7.5 laps
  • 5000m -> 5k -> 12.5 laps
  • 10000m -> 10k -> 25 laps

So, the only other distances run are the mile and the marathon.  They've simply decided that not all distance events should be an even number of laps around the track.