OT- Death of WWE Star -
Since OT season ends tonite....
RIP Bray Wyatt who passed on 8/24 and Terry Funk who passed the day before. Funk was 79 but Wyatt was only 36 and leaves behind a fiance and 4 kids
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10087223-wwe-star-bray-wyatt-dies-at-age-36
https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/38246746/hall-fame-professional-wrestler-terry-funk-79-dies
Just in case anybody cares....
August 25th, 2023 at 9:00 AM ^
Yeah, saw that pop up this morning. Really sad and condolences to his family and friends. Sounds like the cause of death was a heart attack.
Funk I'm less surprised by, as 76 in wrestler years is pretty amazing. But still a loss for his family and the wrestling community
August 25th, 2023 at 9:17 AM ^
They sure do put their bodies through some punishment, but a back flip from the top turnbuckle is a thing of beauty!!
RIP to both dudes.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:57 AM ^
Re: Bray-- Heart attack following complications after serious COVID infection. PSA-- if you're significantly overweight and had a significant COVID bout, no matter what your overall health aspect is or vaccination status, talk with your physician about getting a full cardiac workup and start on the path to dropping pounds.
As to Funk, he was the definition of a "pro wrestler".. lived it, breathed it, but also was a hell of a family man and stayed married to his wife Vicky for 54 years. Almost every person you talk to in the business will sing the praises of Terry to the high heavens as to what they all aspired to.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
Yeah, Terry Funk was one of the most "wrestler" wrestlers in history. And basically everyone who worked with him thought he was a good guy and was pretty safe in the ring as well despite his sometimes-wild matches.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:22 AM ^
Are we at the point where we can publicly chat about the excess deaths, heart issues and younger people dropping dead? I know you for sure you can ONLY discuss the virus itself as the culprit not even so much as wonder about the other thing(s) related to the virus without causing a severe allergic reaction and frantic pontificating. I suspect we're not there yet and I really can't express how much I despise the self-righteous condescending tenor of those conversations. But it would certainly be neat if we could get past the political shit some day and bounce some ideas around. Also, Holy Shit . . . I couldn't agree more that losing weight is probably the number one thing you can do to reduce all cause mortality.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:38 AM ^
I think we have been at that point for a while. Covid was/is a serious health situation which required enhanced attention, but masking little kids for school and putting people out of business and generally freaking the F out about everything was batshit and should never happen again.
As for the vaccine, it definitely helps but certainly should not be compulsory or cost somebody their job, etc. It is a personal medical decision. It also has side effects that can be serious but are not the common. And those side effects do sometimes involve heart issues with younger people.
I kind of thought everybody had settled right about there, no?
August 25th, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
Pfizer and moderna's vaccine is more likely to put you in the hospital than COVID if you're under the age of 50 per their own research they were forced to released.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:06 PM ^
I looked around to find evidence of this claim, but couldn't find any. I did, however, find plenty of sources detailing why in most cases it's the prudent and responsible decision to vaccinate - more so if you're older or immunocompromised, but also still smart if you're neither.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:23 PM ^
Oh yeah I didn’t get anywhere near that thing. But I have no issue with people who did. It’s a personal medical decision.
August 25th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
No. But we're on the edge of talking about politics. Lets stop with this
August 25th, 2023 at 11:43 AM ^
No need to bounce ideas around, really. There are tons of articles and papers on pubmed showing covid to be a devastating systemic pathogen that should be more thought of as a cardiovascular disease than respiratory. Have seen tons of people in the hospital for unrelated reasons who have new onset cardiovascular issues after contracting covid.
had a family member who wasn’t cleared for a cancer treatment due to new heart issues after covid (he caught it pre-vax). Thankfully he responded well to alternative treatment!
August 25th, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^
I am not going to wade any deeper into this pool than is necessary but is your question with the discourse around COVID as a disease and its impact on human bodies beyond the immediate symptoms or around precautions people take around COVID such as getting vaccinated? Because I don't think most people would argue against the idea that COVID could have negative impacts on your health long-term, especially if you have complicating factors.
August 25th, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^
We can discuss anything about the disease MeanJoe, but it better come with receipts...from the countless papers or studies that are out there on large data samples, not some anecdotal data point, info from a link on social media, or something that "feels" a certain way.
As someone who suffered long haul covid, and spoke with many doctors and friends in the scientific community, there is a lot we don't know about the disease and the long term effects of the vaccine.
That said, conspiracy crap pushed by grifters that aims to spread fear, bs, and politicizes the disease and treatment instead of opening up an honest conversation around these studies is not welcome.
August 25th, 2023 at 1:14 PM ^
I personally think labeling different opinions and positions as “conspiracies” IS what shuts down honest conversations.
August 25th, 2023 at 1:54 PM ^
Nah. Not all opinions are built the same, nor should they all be treated the same.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:21 PM ^
That’s your opinion.
August 25th, 2023 at 4:55 PM ^
"I think Bowling Green has a better football team than Michigan this year" is also an opinion.
That doesn't mean that opinion is intelligent, worthy of respect, or useful in any way.
Just because someone has opinions about things doesn't mean that the rest of us have to listen to or respect them. People believe some absolutely insane shit.
A sommelier's opinion on wine holds more weight than a gas station attendant's. An architect's opinion on building design holds more weight than a neurosurgeon's but that doesn't mean that I want an architect operating on my brain. A pilot's opinion on how to land a plane holds more weight than a kindergarten teacher's, but he's probably not as good at cleaning up vomit.
Someone not agreeing with the opinions of experts doesn't mean that their opinion is in any way equivalent. Especially without a well-sourced argument to back it up.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:53 PM ^
All I have seen for the last three years is “experts” make complete fools of themselves for being wrong so many times consecutively that is appeared intentional after a while. So, no, I don’t put much stock in their bullshit anymore and form my own opinions based on available information including observable evidence. So, if you still have blind faith in “experts” you have a lot of catching up to do.
August 26th, 2023 at 3:22 AM ^
Tell me you don't know what the Dunning-Kruger effect is without telling me.
"Experts are fools, so I listen to people that don't have any clue what they're talking about instead because what they say aligns with my internal biases, which I don't want to question because it's hard!"
August 26th, 2023 at 7:31 AM ^
like people in govt and the military were in a better position to know if Iraq had WMDs or not, yes?
What you perceive as stupidity from one side of the country isn't stupidity, but a lack of trust.
August 26th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
A lack of trust in government is a good thing as long as it's healthy skepticism.
The issue is taking that misplaced trust and putting it in the hands of grifting charlatans whose propaganda is funded by foreign powers instead. Just because the government lies doesn't mean that Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, or Joe Rogan are better sources of information. It's interesting how they all seemed to not have a problem with trusting government propaganda when the last rapey idiot was in there, isn't it?
There's a thousand mile canyon of proverbial difference between Iraq's lack of WMD's and fuckalicious bullshit like "Obama is a muslim terrorist that was born in Africa and went to a madrassa in Indonesia" and "covid is a hoax because it can be cured with horse dewormer and colloidal silver."
The former is a reasonable view, the latter are abject stupidity due to consuming only media that triggers a dopamine hit from confirmation bias and/or being a hateful brainwashed troglodyte.
August 26th, 2023 at 6:27 PM ^
"the last rapey idiot" ... Bill Clinton?
The conspiratorial nonsense is the result of the obvious lying. It's not a 'canyon of difference', it's a direct line right to it. The only cure is for people in govt to be more forthright. I'm not holding my breath.
"consuming only media ... from confirmation bias" there's plenty of that on both sides.
" hateful brainwashed troglodyte." uncalled for. I didn't insult you, but you do you.
August 26th, 2023 at 7:14 PM ^
Hang on, I didn't say that you were a hateful brainwashed troglodyte. Just that being so could be a source of believing myths like the birther and covid ones I referenced above. Were you saying that you believe both to be true?
August 27th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
Exactly what I was talking about. Nice. Really good job.
August 25th, 2023 at 7:14 PM ^
https://swprs.org/covid-vaccine-injuries-the-german-pathologists-findings/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/08/11/more-americans-dying-than-before-pandemic-covid-deaths/70542423007/
https://appgpandemic.org/news/yellow-card
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ejhf.2978
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August 25th, 2023 at 1:24 PM ^
We can certainly talk about young wrestlers dropping dead. It's a long list!
Wrestlers have 2.9X the mortality rate of men the same age. There are at least 146 wrestlers who died before 40. Around 20% of those died due to cardiac issues.
A young wrestler dying of a heart attack following a COVID infection doesn't prompt a conversation about COVID. It continues the conversation of wrestlers dying. The lifestyle, lack of an offseason, drugs and alcohol, travel, high workload, and in this case obesity are all terrible for morbidity and mortality. It's a brutal career.
The best way to improve it would be some kind of union that provides health care, mandatory offseasons, and limited performances per year. That is practically impossible given the history and nature of the business.
August 25th, 2023 at 1:48 PM ^
This wrestler in particular was overweight in an era of wrestling where health is emphasized. Most of the current WWE roster are athletes that look like normal athletes (trim and agile) and not their roided up counterparts from the 80s. I would not be surprised if Bray Wyatt had some sort of drug issue.
The poster above is right that COVID is substantially worse for those either overweight and diabetic or of advanced age.
August 25th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
Yes, this phenomenon existed long before Covid.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:25 AM ^
He was the guy who could’ve benefited from the long form storytelling WWE has changed over to. They dropped the ball with the Uncle Howdy story but he was close to coming back for one more shot.
RIP, gone way too soon.
August 25th, 2023 at 9:47 AM ^
Yeah, they had a program with him and Bobby Lashley that could have worked well.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:40 AM ^
On that note, where is Bobby Lashley?
August 25th, 2023 at 12:25 PM ^
My understanding based on limited dirt sheet reading is that he had some minor injury he was dealing with but the WWE also wanted to set him up with a big feud coming out of Summerslam and Wyatt was the guy they sort of pegged for it. But they've also been weird with Lashley for a bit; he was supposed to do something with LA Knight at Wrestlemania but that got scrapped as well.
They did something with the Street Profits recently so maybe they're going to put him at the head of a stable again?
August 25th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
August 25th, 2023 at 9:54 AM ^
Terry Funk as tough as they come,back when wrestling was”real”.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:22 AM ^
Terry Funk was great in Road House
August 25th, 2023 at 10:49 AM ^
... there's always barber college.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:09 AM ^
Rest in Peace Bray. I made the mistake of letting my eight year old watch the replay of the last royal rumble while I did work around the house. I came back to check on him and he was visibly shaken. I looked at the TV and Bray Wyatt was on. I had to give him a hug and tell him I'm sorry. He really went all in on that role, but it was a bit too dark for us.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:46 AM ^
I'm surprised that I heard about Wyatt but this is the first I've heard about Funk. That seems wrong.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:51 AM ^
Funk was one of the best ever, his stories are legendary. Unbelievable career, he will be missed by many of us
August 25th, 2023 at 2:19 PM ^
He was awesome in Roadhouse. Played the classic likeable heel role to perfection.
August 25th, 2023 at 10:50 PM ^
Some of you need to chill. We have no idea of why Wyatt passed other than what are basically rumors of a heart attack.
August 25th, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^
I saw Funk wrestle once back in the day. Funk was a legend.
Wyatt was a surprise, sadly. 36 is pretty young. For a while he was the most popular 'villain' in WWE.