Not April Fools' Day - NCAA confiscates reporter's cat mug

Submitted by TrppWlbrnID on

So, the NCAA, bastion of upholding the virtues of student athleticism, has a deal with Powerade (TM) that only Powerade (TM) cups shall be used on press row of NCAA games, because won't someone please think of the student-athletes?

Jason Gay of the Wall Street Journal knew this and pretty much set this up to make this a story, but the NCAA's goons fell for it and took the guy's cat mug - with 4 minutes left in the second half. Short, amusing read about this stunt. At this point, anything that prods the NCAA and their hypocrisy is fine by me. also, i hope that the NCAA has to report confiscated cat mugs as some sort of benefit and self report a violation.

warning - pictures of non-NCAA, athletic juice sponsored drink-ware below:

 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304157204579473352891772622

LSAClassOf2000

April 1st, 2014 at 8:42 AM ^

There is something funny yet frightening about it at the same time. On one hand, it is pretty comical that the NCAA would be that petty, but it is frightening because it makes you think that they are willing to let so many things go, but woe to the person who would dare cheat them out of about a dime or so in revenue by supplying their own beverage container. At least the priorities are that much clearer now. 

remdog

April 1st, 2014 at 8:47 AM ^

abolished. It is an illegal monopoly which exploits student-athletes and deprives them of basic rights. I love college football and basketball but I can't stomach the corruption and hypocrisy of the NCAA. Amateurism is just a sham to preserve the power and wealth of the NCAA and its cronies. It's so blatantly obvious. In something like 40 states, the highest paid public official is a college sports coach. If you throw away the BS about amateurism and try to look objectively at the issue, you see that certain players who "broke the rules" are in the right and the NCAA is in the wrong. Manziel, Webber, et al were just exercising their basic economic rights. That's why Webber won't apologize for anything. The university was profiting immensely on his back while he as prevented from doing likewise and then condemned for legally taking a gift. The university and the NCAA should apologize. Any time he sees his Michigan jersey for sale, he must get ticked off. I think the BK commercial was one big screw you to the NCAA and the unviersity. They should apologize to him.

APBlue

April 1st, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^

"The NCAA should be...abolished."   - Okay.  

"It is an illegal monopoly which exploits student athletes..."  - umm...illegal monopoly, no.  Exploitation, yeah (to an extent).  

"...and deprives them of basic rights."  What the fuck?  You serious, Clark?  

I think you need to research what, exactly, are basic rights.  

...and that's it.  I'm not reading the rest of that nonsense.  

remdog

April 1st, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^

Come up with a rational argument and then post. And if you can't read a couple paragraphs then maybe you should go back to school. The NCAA is a monopoly. It has been granted an illegal exemption in this regard. Just because some court said "hey we're not going to uphold the law" doesn't make it any less illegal. And just because the government flouts the law by arbitrarily granting exemptions from the law in other ways, it's no less illegal. Either we are "a nation of laws" or we're not. But I don't want to get into some insane legal argument here. Some lawyer here will step in and explain how the law can be twisted any way the government sees fit. Or how a court putting a stamp of approval on something makes it constitutional or legal. I respectfully disagree. And if you don't know what basic rights are then you should not join the discussion.

Alton

April 1st, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^

Your words:  "The NCAA is a monopoly.  It has been granted an illegal exemption in this regard."

What exemption has been granted, and an exemption from what?  How is the exemption illegal?  If the exemption was illegal, why wasn't the person/people responsible for granting the "illegal exemption" prosecuted? 

Reading further, you seem to think it was a court granting the exemption (would it then be a "legal exemption"?  Or even an "illegal legal exemption"?)  What court, what case?  Tell me when the NCAA was granted any exemption from any law by anybody.

Holy crap, you make me feel like I am defending the NCAA's rules.  I have to take a shower now.

grumbler

April 1st, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^

The NCAA is a group of colleges and universities.  These colleges and universities have no monopoly on anything.  Some mouth-breathers don't understand what the NCAA is and come up with claims like "NCAA iz illegul monopolly," but, frankly, it is better to just ignore their rambling rather than engaging them.  If they were serious about discussing how to improve college sports, they'd first learn about what college sport is and how it works.

As for the OP, he/she falls into the old logical fallacy of believing that anything they don't like is "hypocrisy."  This case may represent poor judgement, money-grubbing, or an excess of officiousness, but it isn't hypocrisy unless the NCAA is confiscating cat cups while arguing that other groups should not confiscate cat cups.

Alton

April 1st, 2014 at 11:52 AM ^

You are right; no point in engaging here (although the repeated false claim that the NCAA has an anti-trust exemption is annoying).

And +1,000 for your second paragraph--I didn't know that there was anybody left on the internet who knew the actual definition of "hypocrisy".  Glad to see that I am wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

remdog

April 1st, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^

is a group of colleges and universities which are ...... wait for it.... businesses!  When these businesses combine to form a group called the NCAA, they form a monopoly.  Get it???

And how is individuals making millions while suppressing the earnings of employees in the name of "amateurism" not hypocrisy???  If "amateurism" is so great, why shouldn't everybody involved follow the rules of "amateurism."  Just look up the definiton of hypocrisy.

If you're a thinker and interested,  here's an informative reasoned article on the NCAA monopoly and it's corrupt practices:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/31/opinion/nocera-the-college-sports-car…

But I should give up.  The non-thinkers outnumber the thinkers here.

If you're a non-thinker, feel free to neg-bang or respond with some stupidity.

 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 1st, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

When businesses combine to form a group, that's called a cartel, not a monopoly, Mr. Thinker.

Also, by your "logic", which I hesitate to call logic, a pro sports team makes millions of dollars in concessions every year but only pays the people who sell them, like, $10 an hour, if that.  Hypocrisy?  I work for a company that rakes in 12 figures of revenue per year and I only get an infinitesmal percentage of that, while other people working for the exact same company get, like, over 100 times what I make.  So unfair!!!

remdog

April 1st, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^

A "monopoly" (per investopedia) is "a situation in which a single company or GROUP owns all or nearly all of the market for a given type of product or service. It is true that the strict academic definition limits a monopoly to a market containing only one firm. But that is an overly strict definition. The NCAA is an umbrella organization which acts as a monopoly. Sure, you could call it a cartel too. But this argument is pointless splitting of hairs and irrelevant. As for your second point, it is again irrelevant. Does your company collude with other companies to limit your compensation? Does your company belong to a cartel which exerts monopolistic influence over your industry and suppresses your wages? If so, then you have a gripe and should seek legal remedy. Otherwise, wtf are you talking about?

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 1st, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^

I think we ought to split hairs, actually.  If you're going to take the point of view that you're the only rational thinker among a bunch of idiots, then you need to be correct in what you're saying.  Otherwise you come off like a buffoon, which is pretty much what's going on here.

Let me educate you.  What you're claiming the NCAA is, Mr. Thinker, is a monopsony, in which there are many sellers but only one buyer.  It's not all that different from a monopoly, but the phrase "let me educate you" followed by faulty information is why you're being raked over the coals.

Now, do me a favor.  In a monopsony, employees receive wages less than what they would make in a competitive market.  So explain to me why the vast majority of NCAA athletes receive compensation far above what they'd make in a competitive market?

grumbler

April 1st, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

"The NCAA...is a group of colleges and universities which are ...... wait for it.... businesses!  When these businesses combine to form a group called the NCAA, they form a monopoly.  Get it???"

This is a perfectly circular definition:  you are saying that the NCAA is a monopoly because the NCAA is a monopoly.  It, of course, is not.  Not only are their colleges which engage in athletic activities and don't belong to the NCAA, there are entire sporting organizations that don't belong to the NCAA.  Get it???????????

"And how is individuals making millions while suppressing the earnings of employees in the name of "amateurism" not hypocrisy???  If "amateurism" is so great, why shouldn't everybody involved follow the rules of "amateurism."  Just look up the definiton of hypocrisy."

People make millions of dollars in all kinds of activities, and while doing so are around others who don't make millions.  That doesn't make the people who have million-dollar salaries hypocrites.  The universities and colleges that make up the NCAA act in the name of amateurism because they are concerned with amateurs.  People who want to become professionals in sports know that they cannot become professionals and still play for colleges and universities. That's not hypocrisy, thats just having a set of rules.

"But I should give up.  The non-thinkers outnumber the thinkers here."

If you define non-thinkers as people who recognize silly arguments and note their silliness, you are right.  You sure won't convince anyone by simply arguing that newpspaper opinion pieces that agree with you are "informative' and "reasoned."  especially when those articles start out with the premise that the NCAA is the functional equivelent of OPEC!

APBlue

April 1st, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^

Okay.  Let's try this then.  You've brought up the NCAA's "illegal monopoly" twice, but you don't want to talk about it now.  Fine.

In your opinion, what basic rights are being withheld from these student-athlets?  

APBlue

April 1st, 2014 at 12:47 PM ^

I'm sorry, Remdog, that my limited mental capacity prevents me from comprehending such a difficult concept as what human rights are.  

No, I'm not sorry.  It seems as though you're done spewing nonsense, so we have that going for us.  

GoWings2008

April 1st, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^

And how'd you get to that conclusion, eh? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society! If there's ever gonna be any progress...

Help!  Help!  I'm being repressed!

grumbler

April 1st, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^

  NCAA: Then who is your coach?
  WOMAN:  We don't have a coach.
  NCAA:  What?
  DENNIS:  I told you.  We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.  We take it in turns to act as a sort of coach for the week.
  NCAA:  Yes.
  DENNIS:  But all the decision of that coach have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting...
  NCAA:  Yes, I see.
  DENNIS:  By a simple majority in the case of purely in-game adjustments,--
  NCAA:  Be quiet!

 

Yo_Blue

April 1st, 2014 at 9:39 AM ^

Like them or not, there are rules.  There are other ways of protesting besides blatently breaking the rules.  Webber and Manziel were not right because they signed up with a set of rules in place.

Your apology philosophy is backwards.

remdog

April 1st, 2014 at 9:46 AM ^

against monopolies aren't there? Why is the NCAA granted an exemption? What if you faced such a monopoly and had no other choice to agree to their "rules" if you wished to pursue a career in certain sport? You don't really have a choice do you? Either sign away your basic economic rights or you may not be able to pursue a professional career using your god-given talents. The NCAA acts like a totalitarian state. It sets rules that players MUST agree to, They have no choice. Do you have ANY sympathy for people living in totalitarian states or do you just tell them to follow the rules and stop complaining?

NYC Blue

April 1st, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^

The NCAA acts like a totalitarian state?  Really?  We are not a little over the top here?

Setting rules the players must agree to?  Of course.  You know, when I got my job, I had to sign a contract of rules I must agree to.

When I wanted a credit card, I had to sign a list of rules I must agree to.

When I wanted a loan from the bank, there were a list of rules I must agree to.

 

Not being able to negotiate with a large organization in order to be a part of it is both a) common, and b) not even remotely in the same area code as a totalitarian state.

And as for signing away your 'basic economic rights', they are doing no such thing.  Again, join a company and make a discovery/invention and in almost all cases, that discovery/invention belongs to the company, not you.  The idea that the people who are the 'talent' in the company do not retain all the proceeds of their talent is hardly a unique situation.

 

There are real issues with the NCAA, and with player compensation.  But the argument is not helped by over the top hyperbole like your comments.

 

danimal1968

April 1st, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

Your repeated statements to the contrary are wrong.

Take a gander at National Collegiate Athletics Association v. Regents of the University of Oklahoma, 468 U.S. 85 (1984).

Since you're too busy patting yourself on the back for your imagined genius I'll even summarize it for you.

Prior to 1984, the NCAA controlled college football television.  It negotiated the contract and limited how much any one school could appear on television.

The Supreme Court held that the NCAA was subject to the Sherman Antitrust Act, and that its prohibition on individual schools or conferences making their own television deals violated said Act.

As a result, in 30 years we have gone from teams getting to play no more than 3 times a year on TV to near-riots occurring if their games aren't available while people are on vacation in China.

There are many other fallacies you've posted, but since most of them rest on your flawed statement that it is exempt from the antitrust rules, I'll go back to work.

Have a nice day.

chatster

April 1st, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^

Considering the deletion of an MGoBlogger's thread about a fictional serious injury to one of Michigan's star football players, are there any April 1 posting guidelines for MGoBloggers?  For example, would any of these have been considered acceptable?

  • Grad Programs Not Available at Alabama, Found at U-M; Chad Lindsay Enrolling
  • U-M Solar Car Sets Transcontinental Speed Record
  • Webber Re-Uniting with Other Fab Five Members to Appear at Spring Game
  • David Cone, JDK and Rey and Jabrill Peppers to Perform at Spring Game
  • Damien Harris Getting Ready to Re-Commit to Michigan
  • Speight Confirms George Campbell Visiting for Spring Game
  • Boehner, McConnell to Work with President to Improve Affordable Care Act
  • Hillary and Jeb Say No to White House Runs in 2016
  • Swiss Army Knife Has Competitor - Australian Navy Knife Selling Well
  • Malaysian Air Flight 870 Disappearance Declared A Hoax – Everyone’s Alive
  • Christie Admits Role in GW Bridge Lane Closures and Will Resign
  • GM Gambling on New Chevy Vega; Christina Hendricks Will Be Spokesperson

Everyone Murders

April 1st, 2014 at 9:11 AM ^

I think the NCAA is woefully inadequate in many, many ways - enforcement of its own rules being at the top of my list.  It's a bloated organization that seems in many ways to have lost its sense of mission.  I'm in the camp that agrees that the NCAA needs reform (although I'm still studying the 'pay the athletes' issue).

But the cup policy seems to be utterly sensible to me.  If there are limited on-court advertising opportunities during the tournament, and the cup rule is put in place to keep uniformity and promote the NCAA, I think the courtside enforcement of this rule doesn't grate one bit.  This isn't Nam man.  There are rules.

I do applaud the WSJ reporter for trolling the NCAA.  It's a funny stunt.  But really, it's only that in my mind - a stunt.

French West Indian

April 1st, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^

On the one hand, it's perfectly acceptable for the NCAA to enforce some rules regarding branding & visual clarity.

But on the other hand, the problem to me is that the NCAA is doing this because of contractual obligation with a sponsor.  I'm not an NCAA hater and I do believe in the student-athlete but when they go to such lengths to protect commercial entities then it does become difficult to defend their actions in the face of the "athletes are exploited" criticisms.

If the rule was only NCAA branded mugs then fine but doing it on behalf of P*****ade is hypocritical to the student-athlete educational mission. 

Gulogulo37

April 1st, 2014 at 10:55 AM ^

Right. The point of the article wasn't really that having a sponsor is bad. It's the lengths that the NCAA goes to in order to make a bunch of money everywhere they can while only giving a pittance (at least comparatively so) to the athletes.

grumbler

April 2nd, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

Come on, dude.  How many times do I have to read about how much Emmert gets and then, when I ask why that matters, get told that it does not?

If it is about how much the players get, how much SHOULD they get?  Don't tell me about making millions, just tell me:  what is the precise amount (of whatever) that players should get?  And what does that have to do with cat cups (the subject of the thread)?