Noah Spence on Drug Use at OSU: "I Wasn't The Only One Doing It"

Submitted by Wood_Chuckson on

"I have an idea...since I got caught...how 'bout I throw EVERYONE ELSE under the bus?!?"

SMH

 

 

Stay classy, Suckeye...

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Marley Nowell

March 4th, 2016 at 10:13 PM ^

What is the drug test policy? In the NFL/NBA they know way ahead of time when they are going to be tested and prepare. I wonder if its the same in college, or how much this actually varies depending on what program you are in.

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The Dirty Nil

March 4th, 2016 at 10:16 PM ^

College years are all about (ok fine, not ALL about) experimenting with drugs. He should probably keep his mouth shut about it though, and I think that says a lot more about him than the usage.

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mgobeast19

March 4th, 2016 at 10:36 PM ^

It's not like he's doing it to get an advantage. the only drug that would really give you a psychological advantage would be Lsd, and you see how much that helped Joey bosa. JS

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BillyOcean

March 4th, 2016 at 10:50 PM ^

Littering and..smoking the reefer. Rabbit and I are gonna sit here while you three smoke the whole bag

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DMack

March 4th, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^

I get that you don't rat on your friends but we have to stop sending mixed messages. These young men are at the cross roads of life and are learning the lessons of ethics and integrity. For some of them, they didn't have good role models to help teach them these lessons early.

The coach at Tennessee is said to have called a player a traitor for telling the truth about a rape he was said to have witnessed. Albeit, this scenario doesn't rise to the level of rape, it brings up the question of honesty and candor.  

Do we want kids to be dishonest if there is prolific drug use and or abuse going on, or do we want to stop it and change the culture surrounding these athletes? Obviously OSU has a problem (Bosa). What about the QB from Missouri? I love a story where OSU loses but at what expense.

We all need to keep it real.

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Wood_Chuckson

March 4th, 2016 at 11:02 PM ^

But from the looks of it, he volunteered that information. He was only asked about himself. I could understand your argument more if he just made the conscious decision to come clean but he responded to being questioned about it and when he had the opportunity to take responsibility for his own actions, he chose to bring other people into it. That's weak, IMO.

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drjaws

March 4th, 2016 at 10:56 PM ^

It's drugs. Unless the team is using meth or some shit daily, who cares?

Drugs should be legal and there are tons of highly successful people that enjoy regular use of alcohol, marijuana, psilocybin, LSD, ecstasy etc.

One of the most idiotic social viewpoints is that drug users are somehow bad/lazy/unintelligent etc.



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CorkyCole

March 5th, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^

But is it the drugs that make them intelligent/not lazy, or is it possible that their drug use could result in psychological/physical health concerns or perhaps even mask a greater intelligence that may be somewhat clouded by said drug use? Listen, I'm not a user, and I don't think drug use means you're a bad person or even lazy or weird, but I think there's some obvious dangers with drug use. Not trying to be political or anything else semi controversial with this comment, but I feel obligated to state my perspective when the opposite perspective worries me as much as it does.

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DrewGOBLUE

March 5th, 2016 at 1:09 AM ^

Genetics really does play a huge part. People with addictive tendencies have structural differences in the part of the brain (prefrontal cortex) that normally keeps impulsivity under control.

On the surface it's really not much different from having a predisposition to high cholesterol, except instead of being at greater risk for heart disease, the person with the brain abnormality is much more susceptible to various urges. Obviously drug and alcohol dependencies are a problem, also gambling and sex addictions...obsessively checking/reading college sports blogs...

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Magnus

March 5th, 2016 at 1:32 AM ^

At some point genes are going to be responsible for everything and we will determine that humans do not have the ability to make choices. Oh, I'm fat? It's my genes' fault. I'm too lazy to get a job? No, it's the genes. I'm homicidal? The genes again! We're all pre-programmed with genetic material. The difference between us and animals is that we're supposed to have the rational ability to override base instincts.



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Magnus

March 5th, 2016 at 5:47 PM ^

It's not about "fuck science." It's about the fact that we, as humans, have an ability to make decisions. Genes don't tell us for a fact that you're going to be fat, that you're going to be addicted, etc. They give you predispositions, tendencies, and such.

If I have an addictive personality, that doesn't make it okay to be addicted to things that are terrible for me. It means that's one of my challenges in life. If I'm born with a predisposition toward violence, that doesn't mean I can go around punching people or abusing people just because of "science." That's a cop-out.

You're taking a shot at me, because I'm saying we can overcome scientific problems. However, I'm guessing you're okay with people developing drugs, surgeries, and therapies for leukemia, diabetes, HIV, etc. That's "science," too. You're attempting to alter nature by artificial means. But then I suggest that people can make conscious choices to avoid things that are bad for them, and you throw in a meaningless and simplistic "Fuck science" as if that was my point at all.

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Stu Daco

March 5th, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^

That's it?  Huh.  I would have expected a better argument from someone who "got a 4.0 as an undergrad and got my PhD from one of the most prestigious Universities in the world."

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Wood_Chuckson

March 4th, 2016 at 11:07 PM ^

The point of the thread went over a LOT of heads I see. It's not so much about him doing the drugs, it's more about him dragging other people into something that he was being questioned about. Almost as if he was saying "if I'm going down I'm taking a bunch of people with me." IDK about the lot of you but that's a weak move, IMO. You're being questioned about it, not the rest of the team. You. So own it and keep it moving. Keep everybody else out of it

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Sugaloaf

March 5th, 2016 at 4:06 AM ^

This is a line of thinking that ends up in cops not doing the right thing when their partner is on the take or is breaking the law. I'd rather have somebody be a whistle blower and bring everything out into the light of day. If you're not hiding something then it's no problem. Same deal with kids taking money under the table. Put it on the table and you have a lot less rule breakers. Same with drugs.



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Wood_Chuckson

March 5th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^

You're missing my point. If you're going to be a whistle blower because you genuinely want to do or see the right thing, OK, I get that. But if you were fine with it and fine with what everyone else was doing up until you got caught, don't all of a sudden say: "Hey, I'm in trouble now, let me get everyone who was with me in trouble too so they don't get off scott free while I go down."

If you've suddenly had a change of heart about events and you want to come clean, then you may want to come clean about everything and everybody. I get that. But don't be ok with it at first then decide to throw everyone else under the bus only because now you may be facing consequences and you don't want to face them alone.

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GoBlueMAGNUS

March 4th, 2016 at 11:14 PM ^

When you dont have any connection to a university other than the promise of an NFL career, you have zero incentive to not air the dirty laundry that comes with those types of programs.



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CoverZero

March 4th, 2016 at 11:24 PM ^

When I was a student.... more than 1/2 of the people that I knew on campus were regularly using marijuana, some were using even harder stuff.

That was the general student population 20 years ago.  Athletes, everyone dabbled then and surely they dabble now in drugs.  Its just how it is. 

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Frieze Memorial

March 5th, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^

That was my experience 25 years ago as well. Now that I'm older I can't remember why we did that. I'm not preaching or condemning here, but it's hard to believe that none of us ever asked the question, "WHY are we obliterating our consciousness 3 nights a week?" It was just a given that we would.

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bluinohio

March 5th, 2016 at 12:18 AM ^

I don't think the problem with his answer is about him doing drugs our not. From the teams point of view, he's showing he can't own up to his mistakes which isn't really a guy you want on your team

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PopeLando

March 5th, 2016 at 1:16 AM ^

He's denying that he said it, for what it's worth. Of course he wasn't the only one, but it's possible that words are being put in his mouth.

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Danwillhor

March 5th, 2016 at 2:15 AM ^

18-24 year olds are going to experiment at an extremely high rate. I have zero studied information but I'd be stunned if 20% of people make it to 25 100% sober/straight edge. Of those that went to college I'd have to assume 20% is a high number (teehehe).

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NFG

March 5th, 2016 at 8:20 AM ^

He had to say this to help him move up in the draft.

1. He's showing a sense of honesty from his POV.
2. He's trying to water down the draft stock of all the buckeyes that of entered for the draft. He's hoping that this could move him up and others down based on his comments.



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cezical

March 5th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^

it also shows how he isnt loyal and he also seems to be blaming his problems om other people. His best answer wouldve been to say I did it and its over with now rather than bringing up other people who are irrelevant to him at this point.

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