Nick Saban leads team on racial injustice march
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/nick-saban-crimson-tide-march-protest/
I thought this was very interesting at the end of the article:
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This isn't the only forum where people can't respect opposing viewpoints without mud slinging.
September 1st, 2020 at 7:18 AM ^
"I'll go, but I get to walk in front," Nick Saban.
September 1st, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
The guy is all ego. So much so that he gets a double post from me.
September 1st, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^
This is all about Saban. What an ego maniac. This is supposed to be about BLM and here you have an old white guy walking 3 steps in front of the team. He should be side by side, brothers in arms. Plus he’s only there for the recruiting benefit.
September 1st, 2020 at 7:23 AM ^
Football over country. /s
September 1st, 2020 at 8:57 AM ^
Idk, the /s isn't true in the deep south. I've spent a fair amount of time in Birmingham for work and gotten to know quite a few co-workers who are based out of there. CFB is absolutely a way of life there. I have no doubt that if somehow a scenario came up where it was pledge your allegiance to the country or 'Bama football (which would make you a traitor), 99% of the population would choose football without the slightest hesitation.
September 1st, 2020 at 7:28 AM ^
"you have marches for racial Injustice in your country"
-general aladeen
September 1st, 2020 at 9:24 AM ^
Under rated movie !!
September 1st, 2020 at 10:46 AM ^
"Aladeen muthafuckaaaa!"
September 1st, 2020 at 7:50 AM ^
God bless Nick Saban! A true PATRIOT of this nation.
September 1st, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^
RollDamnTide, is that you?
September 1st, 2020 at 7:55 AM ^
members only jackets for justice
September 1st, 2020 at 8:23 AM ^
Knock it off! We all had one of those at some point...
September 1st, 2020 at 8:28 AM ^
Saban has been right there backing up his team from the start of all this, so it isn't just a camera hogging moment for him. I suspect that Harbaugh would also join his team in such a march, if they had one, because he's also backed them from the start. I do wonder if someone as pious as Dabo would support all-in, like Saban and Harbaugh have. Something tells me that he'd join, but it would be for show - because he felt like he had to.
I don't really like Dabo Swinney. He reminds me of Hugh Freeze...
September 1st, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^
Dabo is definitely that guy who acts nice to everyone. Behind closed doors completely different person. We all know a few of those.
September 1st, 2020 at 8:45 AM ^
Can't understand how recruits think he is a genuine guy.
September 1st, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
Just a guess but money has a way of clouding some people's judgement.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:06 AM ^
Any thoughts on why College football hasnt been hit with investigations yet like basketball has? It's clearly happening and there has been evidence previously, just nothing to garner a full investigation?
This is coming from a University of Arizona alum who saw his favorite basketball team get torn to shreds. They went from getting 2-3 top recruits a year to getting 0. This years class is made up almost entirely of international students. Imagine if OSU, Clemson, or Bama got hit like that.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:24 AM ^
Any thoughts on why those investigations haven't produced any results?
September 1st, 2020 at 9:44 AM ^
Given what that advisor testified under oath, do you really want investigators poking around Ann Arbor?
September 1st, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
Because Christian Dawkins only worked with basketball players. His legal troubles are what led to NCAA investigations.
September 1st, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
I looked at it differently. I saw an over zealous FBI agent try to take down a couple of basketball coaches, but didn't really know how to go about doing, but in the process decided to make a young man pay the price for a corrupt system.
September 1st, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
The basketball scandals all seem to have direct payments from coaches, staff, and directly related boosters straight to the players and their families. In football, the payments seem to be made more through (seemingly) non-associated third parties and church-like organizations. The popular theory with Clemson is that the local churches get a lot of money on the donation plate that eventually finds its way to needy players/families.
How the hell would the NCAA ever investigate a church?
(Ole Miss was a standout in the realm of incompetence.)
September 1st, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
In the great state of Alabama 2 programs both cheat and win so called championships, while in Arizona the Tucson team has dominated the Phoenix team in basketball which tells me and anyone using common sense that something fishy was going on. I mean cmon have you seen ASU's campus in the last 5 years? It's 10 times nicer than U of A's.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
Because he is able to put on that persona of the "aw shucks" good ol' Christian boy, and when you live in the deep south that's all you need to win most everyone over.
Dabo is a fantastic coach, but he pretty much lost me the minute he told everyone that this country has a sin problem and not a race problem. Not that he has to care what I think.
September 1st, 2020 at 11:58 AM ^
Hugh Freeze is to Dabo Swinney what Mac and Me is to ET
September 1st, 2020 at 11:05 PM ^
Yeah, I'm not going to get caught up in the minutiae of the situation.
He did it, that's what matters.
He knows his reasons, we have our opinions.
He and We are biased
Just let it be a good thing?
September 1st, 2020 at 8:30 AM ^
You know, that people in Alabama would go after Saban for this when they've already styled him as Sir Nicholas, Duke Of Tuscaloosa and given him a salary and benefits commensurate with the title, honestly thinking that the man gives a shit about their opinion after all that (I wouldn't honestly if it were me), is somehow laughable.
In all seriousness though, good on Nick. This is not something in which I would have seen him participating.
September 1st, 2020 at 8:37 AM ^
Any smart football coach would be doing this. The fans who can't handle it can GTFO.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
You have no other option as a coach or else silence does not look good. Can and will be used against you in recruiting.
September 1st, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
I would like to think this would work with recruits and their families. But as we have seen, some see only dollar signs, and if a closet racist can deliver more of those dollars (now or in the future) then that is where the kid will go.
September 1st, 2020 at 10:22 AM ^
Bad take, as not all coaches have done it.
September 1st, 2020 at 10:48 AM ^
People here were actually hoping for a recruiting bump after Harbaugh went on his march. Sad but true
September 1st, 2020 at 3:23 PM ^
Meh. People hope for a recruiting bump for any and all reasons. Even fresh water sources have been cited as a reason for hope that Michigan will one day reach the pinnacle of college football.
*cough* *desalination* *cough*
September 1st, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
This shouldn't be too surprising.
By Alabama football coach standards, Saban is known to be quite liberal.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
Yessir, he is known to be liberal my more conservative 'Bama friends.
Don't bother giving them shit about it either, as they don't care as long as he wins.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
Ah, OK. So this means he kills the peasants before he cooks and eats them. Got it...
September 1st, 2020 at 1:06 PM ^
By football coach standards, he's basically Trotsky. By normal person standards he's...Joe Manchin.
September 1st, 2020 at 3:23 PM ^
So, about .5 Lloyd Carrs?
September 1st, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
I'm amazed that they had turn off the comments. What Nick and his team did is about as non-controversial as you can get in my mind. "We want to say we're pro-justice." "WHAT?? Fuck you!"
September 1st, 2020 at 1:03 PM ^
I’m not. Racism, the south, and the current political climate.
I could see some radical right wingers were mad because he joined the protest or something idiotic, and some radical left wingers were mad he was appropriating black culture or some stupid shit, and they all got on the message board because they just needed to sling poop at someone.
September 1st, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^
Racism isn’t just a south thing. Comments on articles I follow in Portland where I live to back in chicago where I used to live are all the same. The toxic vile hate spewing people are everywhere on the internet and in this country.
Why these protests must keep going.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
Harbaugh did this back in June but didn’t feel the need to be 8 feet in front of his players.
There was another on Sunday as well. Not sure if Harbaugh was there but M athletes organized it.
September 1st, 2020 at 9:58 AM ^
Remember at the end of June where an Alabama mayor lost his shit because Saban and his players had the audacity to support BLM? Welcome to the deep south, everybody.
September 1st, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
"Welcome to the deep south, everybody."
That's just lazy. I've lived in Virginia for 25 years and have not heard any bigotry in person. No bigoted comments from any Caucasians in my earshot. They used to celebrate Lee, Jackson, King day, but that was ended years ago and now only King's birthday is a holiday.
On the other hand, I grew up in western Pennsylvania surrounded by bigots. Pennsylvania is north of the Mason-Dixon line...of course.
September 1st, 2020 at 11:03 AM ^
I don't think Virginia is the deep south. (I also don't think, of course, that anyone has spent 25 years in Virginia without ever witnessing any bigotry.)
September 1st, 2020 at 11:10 AM ^
The capital of the Confederacy was Richmond, Virginia. Many of the schools and roads here were/are named after Confederate generals and Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy, but most are being renamed. JEB Stuart, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee were from Virginia.
Oh and thanks for calling me a liar. I'm laughing at your ignorance on the issue.
September 1st, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
I'm not sure what you think 'bigotry' is... I've lived in VA since 1990, and I see it everyday here! There are bigots everywhere, in every walk of life, and in both political parties. To say you've never seen it is to bury your head in a Virginia Beach sand pile. I have zero doubt that the owners of the ~40' long Confederate Flag that I have to drive by every day will tell me that slaves should still be owned today; and that they'll get mad as hell if I tell them otherwise.
Pull your head out of your ass - Virginia is as racist and bigoted as any other southern state.
September 1st, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
Sure, I've seen the Confederate flag off I-95 and I've seen Ralph Northam's yearbook page. Both are disturbing. I can't honestly state if Ralph Northam or the flag owner thinks that people should be allowed to own slaves and neither can you unless you've talked to them or read something they've written that states that. If I ever meet either of them I'll ask about owning slaves and about the significance of wearing a Klan get up, wearing blackface or flying that flag.
You present a half-assed truth with your, "Virginia is as racist and bigoted as any other southern state", and it is a lazy generalization. Got news for you, there's bigotry of all types everywhere on the planet and nobody has the corner on virtue.
September 4th, 2020 at 7:40 AM ^
The Confederacy and the Deep South are different things, just like the Union and the Midwest are different things.
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
September 1st, 2020 at 11:12 AM ^
While I agree that the idea that bigotry is somehow confined to the deep south is ridiculous your statement that you have not seen any bigotry in 25 years or heard bigoted comments is equally unbelievable. It would be unbelievable in the south or anywhere in the US or really the world.
You either have an incredible ability to not pay attention or live in one of the most amazing bubbles walled off from the rest of society known to man. You have not even overheard a bigoted comment from a white person in 25 years?