JonnyHintz

June 18th, 2016 at 8:20 AM ^

The thing is, "exclusive," doesn't help the kids. We want as many kids and other universities at our camps as possible. I'm not going to pretend this isn't a little bit about recruiting. It is. But Harbaugh held a camp in Ohio recently that had maybe one or two P5 level players in attendance out of 300 players. You REALLY think that's just about Michigan recruiting? More players and more other universities at these camps promotes more opportunities for those players to be noticed. Having Toledo, BGSU, Western Kentucky, Marshall, Old Dominion, and schools of such are GREAT opportunities for DII/FCS level players to possibly earn an FBS offer. Or for players with no offers to sneak in an offer or two from DII and FCS schools. It's better for these kids when there are as many camps as possible, with as many universities in attendance as possible. Again, I won't lie and say that this isn't at all about Michigan recruiting, but the NCAA is only hurting the players by doing this. Michigan doesn't NEED satellite camps to pull on top 5 classes on a yearly basis. But a lot of these kids NEED that extra exposure or even just the chance to learn from some college coaches.

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Hill Street Blue

June 18th, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^

in contracting to 10 days as it does with a ban; restraint of trade (coaches), cartel behavior (NCAA/Leagues) with harmed parties (athletes).  I predict a second attempt by the NCAA will bring the DOJ back and the 30 day period could end up being viewed as too limiting.

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bacon

June 18th, 2016 at 1:04 AM ^

As hard as the NCAA wants to stop Harbaugh, they can only regulate one of these guys. I'm guessing John does a few satellite camps next summer in Michigan gear.

 

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GoBlueNorth

June 18th, 2016 at 1:37 AM ^

Even much of the media who represent other fanbases are writing about these camps in a positive light and the NCAA still doesn't get it. A totally useless governing body!

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Wolvie3758

June 18th, 2016 at 7:14 AM ^

Isnt going to stop until the Cheating and Corrupt SEC gets their way..

 

FUK the NCAA  and FUK the SEC....They are FIFA and the Russian Olympic athletes rolled into one

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Wood_Chuckson

June 18th, 2016 at 8:00 AM ^

I don't see what the big deal is. If you didn't see this coming, you need to wake up. Harbaugh knows what he's doing and he knew full well that satellite camp schedule would bring about some regulations. He knew that. 

Does it REALLY hurt anyone though? Do the kids no longer get to display their talent in front of a plethora of coaches? So Harbaugh will do 18-20 camps in a 10 day span instead of 38 in a 30 day span. It would STILL be more than any other coaching staff in college football is going to do. He won't be outworked regardless of regulations. The regualtions don't really change the benefit for the kids and it doesn't change the amount of exposure for Michigan nor Harbaugh's enthusiasm for teaching the game.

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JonnyHintz

June 18th, 2016 at 8:26 AM ^

It doesn't change it? Uhhh... It cuts their exposure to Michigan level camps in half. Sure they can still go to the local Georgia Southern or UTEP camps, but there's no draw to that. Michigan's camp at Paramus featured 45 other schools in attendance. That's 45 schools to possibly impress. How many schools are you going to see at one of those UTEP camps? There's a huge interest in Michigan camps. A huge draw for other schools to attend. If you regulate the camps at that level, you're going to negatively impact the kids.

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Wood_Chuckson

June 19th, 2016 at 8:17 AM ^

So what, it cuts their exposure to Michigan level camps in half!! As far as UM goes, we're gonna get who we're gonna get. Michigan will be fine. As far as recruits go, if you're truly concerned about whether or not they get an opportunity, then there's nothing that regulating the amount of days schools can camp is going to do to change a kid getting exposure to an institution where he can further his education and football career. 

So we won't be able to do 38 camps. We'll only be able to do 20. Did you complain or were you excited about the number of camps Harbaugh and staff did last year? How'd that work out for us? How'd it work out for the kids? I think it turned out just fine, wouldn't you agree? 

Were you up in arms AT ALL about satellite camps before the summer swarm tour last year? I'm willing to be you weren't, so just relax. We have an innovative coach at the helm that seems to know how to stick it to the NCAA at every turn. We will be alright and so will the kids who are competing for scholarships.

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gwkrlghl

June 18th, 2016 at 9:43 AM ^

Alabama, UNC, Ole Miss, etc. All blatantly cheating. NCAA does nothing but continuing to be super concerned with satellite camps. Useless organization.

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charblue.

June 18th, 2016 at 5:05 PM ^

either banning or curtailing satellite camp operation to a limited timeframe and based at a neutral setting without direct coach involvement to stem recruiting, still bears the stamp of SEC interference.

And if the NCAA manages tp push through one of these, which are clearly aimed at blocking camps to protect recruting turf, regardless of the media exposure demonstrating otherwise, I think schools like Michigan ought to make clear their intention to force the NCAA to seriously consider its lack of interest in enforcing  recruitng violations that the SEC engages in to maintain itself.

The SEC is the Willd, wild West when it comes to recruiting. Their coaches allow the kinds of contacts and bagman practices that they are fearful would be given greater opportunity at camps which they don't personally want tp participate in because they don't have to in order to succeed.

These proposed rules speak directly to the arguments they've raised specifically as a conference, no one else. A total ban would simply assure regional borders are never hedged outside of normal recruiting activities and a restriction on camp timeframe without direct coaching involvement would accomplish the same.

In neither case, would the rules benefit those for whom the camps are actually inntended nor help promote the game. They would simply benefit the interests of camp opponents.

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