NC State & Wisconsin Nearly Identical Choke Games

Submitted by BornInAA on

In nearly identical games, NC State and Wisc had the chance to win the game in regular time and OT.

Both teams were rushing over 5+ yards a carry against gassed defenses in the 4th.

Then, the coaches, (for both teams, different games) decide to pass nearly every down at the end of the game and into OT to lose.

A good coach, like our own, if it works - will run the same play over and over.

 

 

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Perkis-Size Me

October 16th, 2016 at 12:28 AM ^

Wisconsin also lost because they couldn't get off the field on 3rd or 4th down.

Can't recall how many times they let Barrett break contain and carve them up for additional yards.

Wisconsin was out-athleted tonight.



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Danwillhor

October 16th, 2016 at 12:35 AM ^

there was blatant holding on literally every "amazing" Barrett escape but they happened. So many little things lost that game for UW. The fumbles that somehow landed right in the lone osu player's hands in a sea of Badgers, turning just one FG into a TD, drops on major passing plays, breakdowns on 3rd and 4th, etc.

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mGrowOld

October 16th, 2016 at 12:41 AM ^

The uncalled holding was truly amazing. I kept thinking two thoughts:

1-why are the officials so intimated by OSU they won't make obvious calls?

2- thank god im not a Wisconsin fan.

The Badgers got FUCKED by the officials in that game. Somebody wanted OSU to win and they did.

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drjaws

October 16th, 2016 at 1:06 AM ^

Same with Clemson. Didn't get a penalty called on them until the 4th quarter. Multiple holdings, even saw a chop block, all uncalled. Blatant face mask in front of 2 refs, neither calls it.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Anonymous hacks the NCAA and releases emails "suggesting" to each conference commissioner and refs who should win each conference.



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UMinSF

October 16th, 2016 at 1:59 AM ^

I do think there are times where officiating is biased, intentionally or not.

There were some pretty bad calls/no calls today (the missed holding on OSU stands out), but last night's BYU-Miss St. game was the worst.

They used SEC refs, and wow, those guys did everything they could to help MSU. It was just ridiculous. 

I could not have cared less who won that game, so this is a completely unbiased opinion. Those refs were clearly biased.

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BlueMk1690

October 16th, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^

with their predictions, we're gonna run a train on State, we're gonna kick OSU's asses...

Problem is we have a lot less of a track record to base such an attitude on and it may come across like we're drunk on beating up on a bunch of at best decent and at times awful teams. So in our case it's more unfounded arrogance than mere confidence (especially as it would take just a bad 1st quarter to have that flip around into the other extreme again).

Stay humble.

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Perkis-Size Me

October 16th, 2016 at 8:34 AM ^

We're not going to be able to "bottle up Barrett." Not fully anyway. Our defensive line is much better than Wisconsin's, granted. But Barrett will find ways to slip loose and get yards.

And don't expect OSU to play like they did today. If that game becomes a "win and you're in" game for both of us, expect their best game. They'll be expecting ours.



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JTrain

October 16th, 2016 at 7:07 AM ^

And if urban keeps running his star QB 20 times a game, they actually may not look the same.

Wonder if JT Barret realizes yet that he's just an Urban Meyer chess piece and will never play QB in the NFL yet. Do you think he cares?
All I can say is soak it all in son...your ride is almost over.



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drzoidburg

October 16th, 2016 at 1:06 AM ^

No, NC St had them by the balls, while Wisconsin was still about 20 yards from a tough field goal Even though i hate Ohio i'm ok with this result. If they lost, they still control the division tiebreaker and this way both teams can be unbeaten at the end. They also made our win vs Wisconsin look even more impressive, should we have 1 loss and need the committee's approval

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UNCWolverine

October 16th, 2016 at 1:09 AM ^

Not even close. One was a very tough and rather honest loss. The other was an absolute joke considering the amount of penalties, missed red zone opportunities, and missed FGs. I'll let you figure out which is which.

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BeatIt

October 16th, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^

imo. wisconsin had a great game plan and executed very good. not even comparable to what the ncstate HC did to lose that game. wisconsin totally made good use of their 2 weeks to prepare for osu. i doubt without the bye week wisconsin executes as well as they did. that was a totally different team offensively then what they showed at AA. any rational fan would have to agree with that.

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I dumped the Dope

October 16th, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^

Wisc, while gashing OSU on the ground on their last regulation drive, seemed to be way too far from FG range to be lackidasical with the clock.  In other words, they were just inside the 50 iirc and like a minute and some change to go and they were in full nonchalant huddle mode.  I get burning the clock down so the opponent can't counter, but they still needed a full 20 yards.  When they were penalized it was pretty much throw up a pass.  

Note how Hornibrook likes to put a lot of air under the ball, in such case, an underthrow is deadly if the DB gets is head around as he has the inside position.  See also, Jourdan Lewis highlight reel.

In OT, when OSU overcame 2 penalties to score a TD I knew Wisc couldn't keep up with that.  Although...on the right side of the line there was an egregious holding penalty by OSU.  Hornibrook should have at least tossed up a prayer but its hard with the pocket collapsing on top of you.

OSU's OL looked lights out when it came time to protect Barrett on pure passing plays.  Part of this could have been Wisc's loss of aggression and dropping more into pass defense on underroutes.  Wisc blew up the single-back read-option over and over, but the "double pistol" formation with 2 RBs, each alongside of Barrett seemed to gash Wisc every time.  

Wisc had so much success with that Peavy jet sweep I would have thought they would have tried it near the goalline, or at least the decoy to run between the tackles.  As Herb Street mentioned over and over, I thought it was a good point.  Down near the goalline it probably would have been a perfect play if Peavy could throw a pass as the entire defense is up near the LOS and would have been biting hard on the actual jet.  See also, ways to use Peppers....

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