Lewan's on field antics

Submitted by sarto1g on
http://t.co/KVS5Qz3B51 Says it all. Unbelievable how he would go and pull a Gholston like this. How is this being a leader? One thing to lose and another to go ahead and do the same crap that we as a fan base have wholly condemned. Edit: yeah he's a competitor and a kid and football is tough etc. bottom line is that an MSU player did the same stuff 2 years back and this board (rightfully) called it dirty. Lewan did the same exact stuff today, so how is it not dirty?
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EricTheActor

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:24 AM ^

Whose word? Kiper and McShay still have him as the 2nd OL off the board, top 12th overall. You're pissed at him because he lost his shit with a bunch of thugs and missed a block. He's been solid all year and hasn't allowed a sack.

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Michigan4Life

November 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 AM ^

they have insiders feeding them info or false info.  They really don't scout and it's pretty clear when you see them talk about prospects.

Scouting is grading prospects based on their ability, not guess where they would land in a mock draft.  Mock drafts are for fans to talk about but scouts don't pay attention to it.

Ever wonder why some prospects stock "rises" or "fall" during off-season?  it's because Kiper/McShay got intel about their grades that barely changed once the season ended. A player who is a fast riser are always been a first rounder since the season ended.

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DetroitBlue

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:11 AM ^

I try not to get too down on the kids who play for michigan for mistakes, or poor play, or whatever, but I can't stand the way he carries himself. Between his bullshit sound bytes about how things are 'unacceptable' or 'not going to happen again' to his stupid penalties and bush league plays like this, I'm sick of it. He doesn't deserve to wear that number

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DetroitBlue

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:32 AM ^

Well, I don't throw around terms like unacceptable so i guess the irony's lost on me. Further, the message board posters who do aren't affiliated with the team and have no real input into how the games actually go. Lewan does, and he's made statements like that in the past to absolutely no apparent affect. I don't mind when people run their mouths, but I mind when they do and don't back it up

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Wolverine Devotee

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:19 AM ^

I kind of thought the first penalty he got was lame.

He just facewashed a guy like in hockey. No facemask, just pushed his head. 

I can't stand that bag 'o' shit dantonio. "I think we let a lion out of its cage" (referring to Lewan)

I hope someone goes left on him. Way left-

 

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Wolverine Devotee

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:50 AM ^

Because about 2 minutes before they asked him, Lewan was going at it before halftime at midfield. 

And can anyone confirm that Michigan was jumping around on the logo at midfield because it looked like it from the brief look in ABC did.

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TESOE

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:14 AM ^

football is a nasty business.  When someone steps on you... you remember it.  When the time comes you are either intimidated or you respond.  To do nothing is a  truly high road.

I don't like what he did - but he responded like an enforcer and dare I say a leader.  MSU got out of hand in 2011 and this series will take a few years to forget it.

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TESOE

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:38 AM ^

this is football.  Dong punches happen.  They should be flagged, penalized and discouraged up to the point of ejection and suspension.  If Lewan is suspended for Nebraska I won't feel bad for him.  I understand what he did.  

You don't take punches to your gullet or see your QBs head get shanked without responding.  What Lewan did was done with nowhere near the force or intent Gholston fouled Denard.  Lewan made a point.  It happens all the time in sport.  It's a part of it.  He was penalized earlier for it and chastised at half time by Hoke.  It's done.  It can't be undone.

To expect him to sit back and not defend his team is not realistic.  It's a passionate and violent sport.

 

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TESOE

November 3rd, 2013 at 1:35 AM ^

Seriously ... have you ever?  

I'm not saying he shouldn't be held accountable or that what he did was right.  I am saying that I understand it.  Is your understanding that what he did had no context? no raminfication outside of the play in which it happened.  

The guy is human. 60 minutes of unnecessary roughness - that is where this comes from - point to the source.

 

 

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TESOE

November 3rd, 2013 at 1:56 AM ^

but we didn't lose because of Lewan's antics.   What Lewan did was wrong and there certainly is nothing clever about it.  It certainly wasn't a Long play.  Lewan has rage where Jake had serene confidence.  Rage is a part of Lewans gift and his play.

Leadership is what people follow.  The team can decide for themselves who to follow.  Lewan can decide how to qualify his actions.  Fans are too far removed from the field.

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beevo

November 3rd, 2013 at 9:06 AM ^

Enough with the high brow posts where men, most of whom have never suited up, berate Lewan for not acting like a Michigan man. He was the enforcer today and it needed to happen. He understands the consequences of his behavior. I met Taylor last week at the UM hockey game....nicest kid...and we spoke about how MSU plays and what you have to do to counter it. It is hard to walk the line of being aggressive and maintaining your emotions. So, criticize the kid if you want, but I bet most of this board probably acted more like an ass screaming at the TV from the comfort of your living room when UM was getting pushed around.

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umumum

November 3rd, 2013 at 6:21 PM ^

I wasn't speaking in the abstract.  I was responding to the post that suggested--no stated--that Lewan was simply being a leader.  He wasn't of course.  He was being self-centered.  He embarrassed the team and the Michigan community.  But that said--an apology and some punishment mighy suffice.

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MGoBlue96

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:17 AM ^

You honestly don't think MSU was doing some similar type of stuff? Just because the biased broadcast only wanted to focus on Lewan doesn't mean it was the only "dirty" things happening on the field.

Of course I am not going to excuse Lewan wholly, he lost his cool/temper at times and let MSU's trash talking get to him. Needs be smarter. Honestly think it is more frustration at this point, due to the o-line problems. Lewan has always had a nasty side to him though, sometimes it may go a little too far.

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Section 1

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:07 PM ^

About 20 hours after having been to the game to see it for myself, I finally get it.  It was tv.  The broadcast director decided to put a camera on Lewan and follow him.  For a story; the "game within a game."  'Let's watch this guy Lewan; we have this great sub-story on UM-MSU being a dirty game... He's a nationally-known player; a future NFL draft pick... People will latch on to this story...'

Count me as "delusional", my friend!

Because I go to a lot of games live, and then watch the replays later on BTN, I get to see how the broadcasts skew the attitude of a game.  Yessir; the views on television are very limiting.  Some things are revealed, with video slow-motion.  Other things are obscured.  The way that a broadcast director uses replay, slow-motion, and the announcers, is remarkable in shaping people's opinions about what they are watching on a screen.

If I offered you the chance to be a live eyewitness to an event, or to see a video of an event which might or might not be a good view, or the chance to be an eyewitness and see the video later, which would you choose?  I'd choose video last; I'd choose being an actual eyewitness over video.  But most of all, I'd probably like to see it for myself, and then see what a big tv audience saw, and then I'd be in a great position to comment on both views.

I had no idea as I was leaving Spartan Stadium what the tv audience had been shown, as a kind of Taylor Lewan freakshow.  I was in the Spartan Varsity Club after the game, with all of the old-time Spartan royalty, where there are about 20 high-def televisions, and a lady who had watched the game in the club because the weather had been so bad was yelling at me about how Taylor Lewan had "facemasked three players!!!"  I just laughed and said, "Sorry."

Now, I am really looking forward to seeing the BTN rebroadcast.

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Kilgore Trout

November 3rd, 2013 at 12:21 AM ^

This board ridiculed MSU fans for saying the same thing about Gholston in 2011. Very similar to Mouton's punch in that we don't seem to be able to admit when it's our guys playing cheap and dirty. MSU's taunting and cheapshots aren't relevant. Grab a guys facemask and twist it while he's on the ground and you should be suspended at least one game. Call it what it is. 

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Gulogulo37

November 3rd, 2013 at 1:58 AM ^

The dude's a redshirt senior! He must be at least 22 years old. There's no way in hell you'd say that about a State player anyway. The one where that player was on the ground was dirty, no question about it. Those other 2 plays in OP's gif though are weak as hell though.

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