Holtz: Hoke's remarks "could come back to haunt" Michigan.
In the gym this morning I had the (dis)pleasure of listening to Lou Holtz, Mark May, and Rece Davis on "College Football Final." In case anyone is wondering, they would have been hard to avoid. Multiple TVs blaring, etc. (I'll admit to having at some least some interest in the program.)
They showed the Michigan highlights right after Notre Dame's and moved into a quick discussion of next week's game. It was noted that the next two games will be the last in the series for now. Holtz took the opportunity to say that Hoke's "chicken" remarks "could come back to haunt" Michigan. When asked by Davis whether he thought ND was afraid to keep playing Michigan, he said "Nooooooooooooo."
September 1st, 2013 at 9:57 AM ^
Lou Holtzshz is such an ND homer its not even funny. Hoke cleared it up and said that it was the ND administration who were 'Chickens' and not really the players or the coaches.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^
Of course he's a homer, what else would he be? He is not padi to be "objective," whatever that means in sports.
September 1st, 2013 at 11:31 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 9:58 AM ^
Michigan may be using the way the series is ending as a motivational tool as well, so it may all even out.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:00 AM ^
Because Michigan is going to BBQ those Fig thin Irish!
September 1st, 2013 at 11:08 AM ^
...but I get your point.
September 1st, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^
...or is that just photoshop?
September 1st, 2013 at 11:26 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 11:45 AM ^
That's hilarious. The Fig Thing Irish! I can't believe nobody caught that sooner, to avoid actually having to use those cups. They must be proud.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:03 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
As if however many years of hatred between the two teams isn't motivation enough. Lou Holtz is a knob.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^
"No" doesn't have an "s" in it like "yes". That's why Holthz chose "no".
September 1st, 2013 at 10:10 AM ^
As I recall, Lou Holtz sneered a little bit at the remark back when it was first made in May too, saying on ESPN that Notre Dame was simply doing it to accommodate their agreement with the ACC and that it had nothing to do with being afraid of Michigan moving forward. He also said then that he was afraid that Hoke would "regret having said that". Whatever, Lou.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:13 AM ^
I mean what's he supposed to say? I love piling on Lou Holtz as much as the next guy but he's just trying to get his base riled up before the game. Everyone is patting Hoke on the back for the comments and getting pissed off when Domers react, how we expect and how they should.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^
Because he is a public figure on a national show so he is supposed to be unbiased and not always championing a single school
Then again college football probably has the most biased analysts/commentators than any other sport
September 1st, 2013 at 10:36 AM ^
And Fox News is fair and balanced. And MSNBC gives Republicans the same treatment they do Democrats.
Comon, this a naive view of how the world works. Anybody could make that comment and it wouldn't change that he's right and not wrong to say it.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:45 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 10:48 AM ^
There was even this asshole from CMU at the game a couple rows behind me who was shouting the whole time shit like, "You [CMU] guys are so much better than them!" I can understand rooting for your team and such, but it does get to a delusional point when you think that CMU would have a chance against Michigan if only the coach would put in the players you want.
September 1st, 2013 at 11:43 AM ^
The guy went to Kent State, was an assistant at 5 different schools, and served as head coach at William & Mary, NC State, Arkansas, Minnesota, and South Carolina.
I never hear him talking about any of those schools or wildly overestimating their prospects. Everybody else on those shows seems to make an attempt to objectively analyze the school they attended/love, even if we know they want that team to win every week. Chris Fowler doesn't talk about how the Buffs are going to shock some people every year. Even Lee Corso is more even handed in his buffoonery (Would you know he went to FSU or coached at IU if you just watched Gameday?)
September 1st, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
That they could.
However, I think the focus has been on ND for weeks, and maybe that is why Gardner had a rusty start yesterday (for a guy who loves to watch film, it seems like he was confused by Central's coverage).
It'll be a classic no doubt, but short internet loverboy and a suspended QB, and assuming Garnder cleans up pick-fest from last year, I think we win. (We could have last year even with pick-fest.)
September 1st, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^
Me telling my girlfriend she can't have a margarita comes back to haunt me later. Hoke will be fine with his comment.
September 1st, 2013 at 10:41 AM ^
Me telling my wife she can have a margarita is usually what comes back to haunt me.
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September 1st, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^
...for Prethadent!
September 1st, 2013 at 11:13 AM ^
Everytime spit boy has opened his mouth about notre dame HIS words have haunted them.
In 2007 he said he "liked their chances".....and they went 3-9.
In 2009 he said notre dame would be playing florida for the MNC.....and they went 6-6.
Last year he said notre dame would win the MNC by beating Bama.....and they lost 42-14.
Up yours lou. Michigan is gonna fry the chickens and eat them Saturday. So much so that they're gonna change KFC to MFC because Michigan will have the new recipe to frying chicken perfectly.
September 1st, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^
I wish Lou Holtz would stop haunting my weekends
September 1st, 2013 at 11:39 AM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 11:47 AM ^
glad to see them go. They want all the benefits of playing in a conference without being in one. They should have chickened out years ago.
September 1st, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^
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September 1st, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^
Because Desmond Howard is unbiased too. Cmon guys.
September 1st, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^
Sure, guys like Desmond Howard and Kirk Herbstreit are biased towards their schools. The difference is that despite this they remain objective enough to still provide interesting analysis at least some of the time. They can usually separate what they want to happen from what they think will happen.
Holtz, on the other hand, is completely incapable of providing any interesting analysis of Notre Dame. Completely. He cannot separate what he wants to happen from what he thinks will happen. As Wolverine Devotee pointed out above, Holtz always picks Notre Dame to win regardless of what their actual chances are. The only suspense is in how exactly he's going to phrase it. As an analyst on Notre Dame, Holtz is useless, boring and not worth my time.
It's too bad, really, because he is a bright guy and was a good football coach. You'd just never know it from his commentary.
September 1st, 2013 at 12:07 PM ^
September 1st, 2013 at 12:11 PM ^
Screw Lou, how about the manner in which DB was notified that ND was at least temporarily discontinuing the series......handing him an envelope at the start of the game last year. Talk about complete disrespect. Screw ND. I guess they would rather play in front of a half-packed stadium at Purdue.
At this point, I'd keep them out of the B1G, even if they were to come begging.
September 1st, 2013 at 12:17 PM ^
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September 1st, 2013 at 12:26 PM ^
To hell with Lou Holtz.
September 1st, 2013 at 1:27 PM ^
But it's not even his views on ND that trigger my antipathy, it's his contention that Ohio is the second best team in the country after watching everyone play yesterday.
Ohio looked and played all-world for three series while Buffalo was reeling from the shock and awe of their environment and first game jitters, before beginning to sidetrack that offense. If you say that the Buckeye Oline which sprang Jordan Hall for several terrific runs, was superb yesterday, I would agree. If you say they were dominant as Holtz implied, I part company.
Do you think the Buckeyes would have beat Clemson or Georgia yesterday, neutral field or the Shoe? No way. They wouldn't have beat Texas A&M or Alabama, LSU or maybe TCU. And Michigan would have taken them out.
Forget Holtz. The old coaches on those shows are really slipping.
September 1st, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
Somewhere sometime long ago, Coach Holtz had to decide how he was going to play his TV persona "Lou Holtz". He decided to take the easy way and never pick against ND and always gloss over things. Why? Who know? Maybe he does very well speaking before ND alumni groups and such. Maybe he just can't let it go and maybe it is the simpler easier way to go. Being more objective is actually hard - no knee jerk response, no need to work through the many difficult grey issues - just simple for our team or against or team thinking; just turn off those higher cerebral centers and let that reptillian primitive part of the brain take over.
While they do show their affection to their old schools you have to credit both Desmond Howard and Kirk Herbstreit with making the more difficult choice of actually attempting to see other sides of issues and positions. Fortunately the fandom for the Wolverines is rational enough to accept that as a good thing. It would be hard to imagine Desmond Howard not being able to live in Ann Arbor if you were to actually criticize the Wolverines on ESPN unlike the situation in Columbus and Herbstreit.
September 1st, 2013 at 6:15 PM ^