alum96

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^

Gardenhire did good things with Minnesota for a long time before they pretty much washed out of any decent players.  That said, not sure what else Ausmus could do other than keep Sanchez in or go to Porcello.  You expect one of your 2 8th inning guys to be able to do a damn thing.

 

gustave ferbert

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^

Ausmus should have kept going with Verlander with a three run lead.  You could have scratched another inning out of him.  What are you holding back for?  then you go to Sanchez and if you have to go to Nathan.

And on top of everything else, D. Young was a tiger.  Even Jim Price said he knew he was a first pitch hitter!  What the hell are you doing pitching him a cut fastball on the first pitch!? He would have swing at anything outside! 

 

Unbelievable. . . 

SWBlue

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^

There is no doubt (without an amazing comeback) that Ausmus will be gone.  I thought he did a poor job during the regular season but being in the playoffs (which was expected) at least saved his job for the time.

But with this colossal melt down completely on Ausmus' shoulders - he must go.

aaamichfan

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:15 PM ^

It's not Ausmus. It's Dombrowski
 

Fire Dombrowski! This program hasn't done anything since he's been in charge! He's such a smug pompous asshole! He makes more money than I do, therefore I hate him!

julesh

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:19 PM ^

Yeah. I'm not that into the inner workings of baseball, but I don't think the manager gets to decide who to trade for. The problem all season has been the bullpen but nothing has been done to fix it.


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MGoBender

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:25 PM ^

They've tried everything they can to fix it.  Rondon's season was ended in spring training.  They tried Jonathon Papelbon.  They traded for Soria.  They picked up Jim fucking Johnson.  They did try - it didn't work out. 

At the deadline they got the best available 'pen arm in Soria.

At what point do people stop blaming the manager and GM and start blaming the players?  Or just accept that Baltimore has the better team, which has been clear all season.  

Jeff4179

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:20 PM ^

Apparently the Sports Gods decided to take a giant crap on southeastern Michigan during 2014.  Maybe if we made a sacrifice to them they'd reconsider?  Right now there are SO many candidates. 

JamieH

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:22 PM ^

Joba and Soria showed you yesterday that they were throwing BP.  Why not go to Al?  He's given up 10 hits and 2 runs in his last 22 appearances.   I guess that is just too good for Ausmus. 

MGoBender

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:22 PM ^

Ok, I'll give this a shot.  I know everyone is ANGAR and wants someone to blame.

They said before the game that Anibal probably had a max of 2 innings in him.  

He gave them two innings.  

It's not (no, it's NOT) a must win game.  There's a 3 (Three!) run lead.  If you want Sanchez to throw again in the series, it should be a safe time to pull him so that he can come back in game 3 or 4.

There's only so much Ausmus can do when his 7/8 inning guys can't throw strikes and when they do the Orioles are hammering them.

This is simply not as good a team as the Orioles.  That's not Ausmus' fault.

JamieH

October 3rd, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^

to say this wasn't a must win game.

The odds of coming back from down 0-2 in a 5 game series are incredibly small.  The odds of wiining a series that is tied 1-1, with the next two games at home are over 50%.

By losing this game, the Tigers went from over a 50% chance of winning the series to somewhere around 5-10%.

I get what you are saying in that, yeah, their season isn't techincally over because they lost.  But losing that game makes it incredibly unlikely that they will be moving on, which means it was pretty much a "must win" game in spirit. 

Md23Rewls

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:27 PM ^

Y'all have a pretty amazing core group, but there are a lot of holes on the roster as I see it, none of the stars (save JD Martinez if you believe he sustains this year) are under 30. Scherzer is a free agent and from what I understand the farm is pretty barren. How do you guys think Dombrowski (or a new GM though I'd doubt that as an outsider) could push them over the top and also hold off the Royals?

jcouz

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:39 PM ^

If they had kept him, the trade for Price would not have been necessary. Scherzer is gone. The Tigers could have moved forward with JV, Fister, Porcello, Smyly, and Lobstein or another 5th starter. The Tigers have decisions to make with V-Mart and Hunter. Losing V-Mart would be a catastrophe for this line-up. Cabrera would never see another strike. The problem for the Tigers now is that they aren't going to win a WS as currently constructed and they have no organizational depth due to trading all prospects and not drafting very well. The bullpen needs to get fixed. I assume Iglesias will be back at SS. We need a CF and a RF. We need to sign V-Mart. We need to overhaul the entire bullpen. It is probably too much to ask.

lazyfoot10

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:44 PM ^

The Tigers are still built pretty well to win next year with some moves

OF JD Martinez 

OF Rajai/Platoon Partner (Healthy Dirks?)

OF?

1B Miggy

2B Kinsler

SS Iglesias

3B Nick C

C Avila/McCann

SP Verlander, Price, Porcello, Sanchez, Lobstein or Ray

Bullpen PILE OF FIRE AND SEWAGE

 

Rotation could be fine if they are willing to roll with Lobstein or Ray. Need an OF. Yasmani Tomas? A CF? (The market for CF is weak). Also need bullpen pieces. Plus, can always trade to move pieces around.

Right moves and the Tigers can compete again next year.

UMForLife

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:31 PM ^

Dumbrowski's press release at 1am:

There was a communication breakdown. The medical staff realized that Chamberlain had a brain fart, but they couldn't communicate that to the coach. The stink from the skunk messed up Soria and he could no longer pitch.

We didn't tell Asmus any of these.

We are very proud of the trades we made. We just need to improve the communication from the medical staff to the coach. We are planning to use Pigeon army in the next game.

We are very proud of the way they played through 7 innings. We hope the Pigeon army will help us through the rest of the play off, I mean one more game.

Go Blue, I mean Tigers!

Amaizeinblue

October 4th, 2014 at 8:29 AM ^

I'm not a Tigers fan but you're absolutely spot on. You deserve some credit for your reasoning skills. Not like guys other bullpen options are much better. You guys calling for his firing, you're basing it on one game? The bullpen was your Achilles heel all year and everyone in the league knows it.

CRISPed in the DIAG

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^

Sanchez is stretched out as the long guy in the pen.  He looked comfortable and had only thrown 30 pitches.  I think you give him a chance to start the 8th with a three-run lead.  I'm not sure what the rest of that gas-can totin' bunch can give you at this point.

Approximately 0% chance Ausmus gets fired for any of this.

bronxblue

October 3rd, 2014 at 5:03 PM ^

That was always the team's weak spot, and it just sucks to have it bite them so badly now.  I do think Ausmus at least went with the two guys who seemed like best bets in those situations; his decision to not play Soria from long stretches always seemed weird to me.

TheLastHarbaugh

October 3rd, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^

The Tigers have a lot of problems. It wouldn't hurt their pitching to jettison Torii Hunter and Nick Castellanos, who are 2 of the 5 worst defenders in all of baseball, for example.

JamieH

October 4th, 2014 at 1:12 AM ^

I don't agree with firing Dombrowski because he's a very good GM.

 

HOWEVER

 

The Fister deal was pretty much the complete undoing of this entire season.

As you mentioned, it led to the Tigers having to panic and trade Jackson and Smyly for Price.  I like Price, but if we had just kept Fister, we would still have Jackson in CF to play defense (Carrera botched a play today) we'd have Smyly in the pen (a HUGE upgrade over the hot garbage that is out there) and our starting pitching would be just as good. 

 

For a team trying to win NOW, that trade was a massive mistake, and made absolutely no sense.  None.  I'm not sure it would have been a very good trade for a team trying to rebuild.   For a contender?  Lunacy.