Bad mgoblog Twitter post is bad

Submitted by UMxWolverines on
If somebody could please embed for me, but here is the link. https://mobile.twitter.com/mgoblog/status/897134505030545408 I think some of us need to separate the real world and sports world sometimes. I understand the premise as far as the ridiculous moral victory headlines, but to put MSU and what happened on Saturday next to each other is pretty shitty.

ST3

August 15th, 2017 at 2:52 PM ^

I watched the 2016 movie about the case. Being in an interracial marriage, I was hopeful for the movie. It was a big let down for me. I didn't like how they started the movie - she's pregnant, gotta get married. I would have liked to find out more about what initially brought them together. Maybe the guy was quiet and introspective in real life, but that didn't make for an interesting movie. I would have liked to see more about the Supreme Court decision, what they thought about, why they ruled the way they did, etc.

Everyone Murders

August 15th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

I don't have a problem with the joke, other than it's not as sharply honed as it could be.  In other words, I had to read the original a couple of times to get the joke.  Brian's a master of a concise quip, and this one read a bit clumsy to me.

What I I don't read into it is Brian calling MSU fans Nazis.  I read it as him saying that both the MSU fans who were (mind-bogglingly) proud to lose by nine and the Nazis who somehow think they were successful this w/e are similarly deluded.

Which, well ... yeah.

814 East U

August 15th, 2017 at 2:34 PM ^

I get the joke and laughed. I knew exactly what his point was.

With all that said, sometimes you keep these types of jokes inside the fantasy football chat or the umich roommate text thread.

 

FauxMo

August 15th, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^

Here's what's interesting about this...Whether you're a right-winger grappling with what happened this weekend (and trying to deflect it off mainstream conservatism and Trump), or a left-winger outraged about what happened this weekend (and maybe trying to conflate all conservatives and conservatism with the extreme right), you probably find this Tweet in poor taste. In other words, I am guessing very, very few people will find this funny, and instead find it in poor taste. 

BiSB

August 15th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^

Last fall, EVERYONE - Michigan and Sparty alike - agreed that the MSU headline was stupid and self-defeating and worthy of mockery. Every sports fan knows that asking for credit for your moral victories is asking for still more mockery. 

So when these Nazi douchebags try to claim victory, we all rightly point and laugh and say "if you're asking for credit for a moral victory, we point and laugh at you."

Ron Utah

August 15th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^

Agreed, but that's not the problem.  The problem is that it looks Brian is comparing a sensitive national tragedy to a football rivalry.  And while that was clearly not his intention, the reaction was predictable.  In our current climate of self-righteous indignation, where everyone is looking to prove to everyone else that they care the most about whatever issue is at hand, a comparison like this is always going to draw fire.

It's not the end of the world, it's just in poor taste.  When I was in college we would have called it a party foul.

mgobaran

August 15th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^

Normal me: Doesn't even read headline because I'm to sickened to put energy into reading about the Alt Right. 

Me after viewing Brian's tweet: "HA! Look at those Nazi's trying to claim a 'Moral Victory.' Also MSU went 3-9."

brianntb

August 15th, 2017 at 2:37 PM ^

that was as classless and bad taste and not a reflection of a true Michigan Man as you'll see. @mgoblog should delete that asap. 

901 P

August 15th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^

I don't really see this as a joke--more like commentary. I think Brian is commenting on the media coverage--saying that to see the events of the weekend as some sort of partial "victory" for neo-Nazis is not good journalism. In both instances, writers seem to be going for a "hot take" that bears little resemblance to reality.

Gulo Blue

August 15th, 2017 at 2:46 PM ^

The problem isn't, as I think Brian is suggesting in the twitter conversation, that Nazis are so bad, we shouldn't compare them to Spartans. It's that one of those Nazis just killed someone, and so while MSU going 3-9 is funny, the Nazis are not something we should laugh about right now...or at least if you're going to say something funny about them, it had better be good and crystal clear what you are saying.

BiSB

August 15th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^

I think Nazis are always something we should laugh at.

We should take the threat they pose seriously, and deal with the risks and damage they cause with the greatest means available under the law. They are a threat to national security and our basic moral fiber.

But they WANT to be taken super-seriously. They want to be seen as a legitimate threat to the current social order. We shouldn't grant them that. They are inherently ridiculous; they are LARPers who think their wooden shields and tiki torches make them some sort of insurgent army. I have no problem pointing and laughing at these silly, small men.

Gulo Blue

August 15th, 2017 at 2:57 PM ^

I see that. But there's something to be said about timing and how funny the joke is. "Ha. Ha. They make the same pathetic excuses as Spartans." is a) not that funny, and b) not completely clear that we aren't making fun of the Spartans by comparing them to Nazis when we often make fun of Spartans. There's probably a way to make this comparison of pathetic reactions on the blog with some context, but just a side-by-side pair of images on twitter doesn't do it.

BiSB

August 15th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^

And I;m not even talking necessarily about this specific instance. I've just heard people say in the last few days that this isn't a time to joke about these guys, and I think that when talking about jokers, joking is among the most reasonable responses.

Bando Calrissian

August 15th, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^

The jokes end when they drive a car into a crowd of people they disagree with and kill someone who still has to go into the streets in 2017 to protest Nazis.

I get it. But this weekend shifted the status quo on how we as a society deal with these people.

mbrummer

August 15th, 2017 at 3:11 PM ^

But the liberal zealot taking sniper shots at conservatives weeekend was totally cool? 

No, it's this weekend.

Screw violence on both sides. 

I never understood the counter protest.  It just gives people targets of each other.  Counter protest in the next town over.

Don't understand the outrage on Twitter about Brian,  frankly don't care

ijohnb

August 15th, 2017 at 3:23 PM ^

it wasn't totally cool, but NOBODY claimed it was.  Nobody came out and said "this war between democrats and rebublicans has been going on for a long time, and both sides bear responsibility." 

Here, the violent action that was taken was a direct extension of the platform of the original protests.  Lumping the counter-protesters in with the original protest is to criticize people for vocally rejecting an objectively wrong and dangerous belief structure.  This "screw violence on both sides" that I keep hearing is a total cop out.

In reply to by ijohnb

mbrummer

August 15th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

I didn't lump the counter protesters and the original protest together.

The original post I responded to, claimed that this weekend was the time it changed.  So yes the previous events were then not major enough to act upon.

I'm not criticizing them.  The Nazi's wanted THEM THERE. They brought clubs and shields!  You can protest one town over and have your voice heard without being a target

Sorry for the " screw violence everwhere' quip.  I don't have the energy to properly explain myself.

And I failed again..  I'm taking a break from this site.  You win.