A2 changes laws and will no longer allow RV parking at Pioneer
Doesn’t seem like it could be the real reason because that would be true any time an rv were parked anywhere that didn’t have dedicated power. They probably just want more money for more spaces with smaller vehicles in all honesty.
'In all honesty' is a curious expression to be usin' there, pappy, considerin' that we have the city report right here in front of us.
Jerks! (I guess... doesn't really affect me)... this is an outrage!
Like others said, the ordinances didn't change - it's merely that they were....violated....a lot and often apparently.
In any case, I can't think of good alternatives anywhere near South Campus. There's almost no way I can see the management at Briarwood allowing people to park RVs there although the hotels, which inhabit the outlots, might allow a few. The old Fingerle Lot is small and wouldn't hold but a handful of RVs comfortably. State Street Auto allows, what, two people to park there, but I've seen RVs hang out there. The Ann Arbor KOA ground is actually south of Ypsilanti, so that's probably not going to work for most RV people.
Yeah, this might screw a few folks over.
And this being America, those that would like can petition to have the ordinances changed. While it seems there could be a problem with the RV's in all these years it hasn't been an issue. Change to ordinance to a.) allow the RV's to stay in the lot on the few nights before gameday and b.) require them to follow whatever new safety codes need to be followed. Ta-da!
Not to mention - this could be the tip of the iceberg. Nothing stopping the city from 'enforcing' the fire code at other establishments, too.
Having lived in Ann Arbor, this tracks
As someone….. that has knowledge of city government, making the RV have a CO2 or, more importantly a carbon monoxide monitor is easy. Don’t have one, monetary fine. Proper gas and propane tanks are sold at Meijer. If in violation, monetary fine. This move was intended to make the RVs go. I don’t blame the FD that was monitoring for safety. That is their job. The council makes rules based on info. There were easy ways to increase safety and keep the tradition alive. They WANTED the tradition to die. Unless there is more data, or the school didn’t want it, or some other fact patter, this is why governments need to be challenged at all times.
All the RVers had to do was follow some reasonable rules and there would have been no issue. It doesn’t seem unreasonable for a town to prefer not having people die on public school property. This is as much about individuals not taking responsibility as it is government over-reach. If people spent half as much time doing straightforward things that considered the larger community they lived in and leas time bitching about “the government”, we’d both have less government intervention and a nicer community.
If they are concerned about safety, it seems like there are several intermediate steps they could have taken rather than an outright ban.
1. Strictly enforce fines for unsafe activities and make the penalties meaningful. People’s behavior will improve.
2. Disallow overnight RV parking, and only allow parking there on game day.
3. Limit the number of RVs allowed in the parking lot (perhaps cut it by 20-30%)
4. Increase AAFD or other emergency presence in the lot
5. Hire employees/monitors to look for safety concerns.
Seems like the ban is just a knee jerk reaction rather and a thoughtful analysis of what could be done to prevent an incident. As others have mentioned, the RVs will just move elsewhere.
I blame chemistry teachers for this
Tough ban for RVers. While I’m sure there are “many” violations over the years seems like there could be a better approach to this than an all out ban for everyone. I’m willing to bet there were a lot more RVers that have followed the rules than not. Sucks for them to get banned.
OMG, we've only done this for a century with little to no consequences. It must be an imminent danger.
Many of the RVers had big screens set up to watch the games and never set foot in the stadium. On another note, the fee for regular game-day parking at Pioneer has gone up to $66 per car. Preferred parking is $86 per game.