74th anniversary of Pearl Harbor attack
If you had family members serve in WW2 please share their story.
Go Army! Go Blue! God Bless America!
December 7th, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^
Really? Hate to be a dick but please spell it correctly.
However, I do appreciate the sentiment. Semper Fidelis.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:21 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^
"Oh yes, he made light of my weight problem, then suggested my motto ought to be Semper Fudge. At that point he told me to "relax""...
December 7th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
EDIT: original thread title was "74th anniversary of Pear Harbor attack"
December 7th, 2015 at 10:01 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^
That one just hurts.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:04 AM ^
damn phone.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
well since you said Go Army, this is a good spot for some Navy videos http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2015/12/04/armynavy-game-2015-spirit-spot-videos/
December 7th, 2015 at 10:05 AM ^
you bastards
December 7th, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^
Those bastards! There is a special circle of hell for people who bomb fruit groves.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^
"A day that will live...in infamy."
December 7th, 2015 at 10:25 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:37 AM ^
I've had the fortune of visiting Hawaii when I was in the military and took the boat tour when I was a cadet at the Air Force Academy. Very cool tour and it was certainly an emotional visit.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^
It's "a date which will live in infamy"
Commonly misquoted.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^
Absolutely correct.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:46 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
Right, and it's "infamosity". I hate when people screw up quotes...
December 7th, 2015 at 10:11 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:23 AM ^
Sorry for the sneak attack.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:11 AM ^
+1 for thought
-1 for execution
December 7th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:23 AM ^
what the USA's involvement in WW2 would've been had that day not happened. Hitler did not want the USA involved with the war at that time. In fact, he took many steps to ensure they did not enter. His U-boats did not sink any ships in that Atlantic that were headed to Britian before Pearl Harbor even though we were helping the Allies.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
The Departure from Isolationism: A legal anaylsis of FDR's role in coaxing the U.S. WW2.
This link will provide the many examples of German Uboats sinking American Warships and Merchant Vessels prior to the Dec 7th Attack.
http://faculty.virginia.edu/setear/students/fdrneutr/Home.html
Click on the time line 1940-1941. Here are some highlights
- May 21 1941 - A German U-boat sinks the US freighter Robin Moor.
- Apr 10 1941 USS Niblack (DD-424) depth charges a German submarine off of Iceland
- September 4 1941- The destroyer USS Greer (DD-145) is attacked but not damaged while tracking a German U-boat 175 miles southwest of Iceland.
- September 7 1941 - German air attack in the Gulf of Suez sinks the U.S. merchant ship Steel Seafarer
- October 19 1941 - A German U-boat torpedoes and sinks the U.S. merchant ship USS Lehigh off of West Africa.
- October 31 1941- The destroyer, USS Ruben James (DD-245) sinks after being torpedoed off of western Iceland. First U.S. Naval vessel lost to enemy action in World War II.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^
He was high on cocaine when he gave the "a date which will in infamy" speech. He had sinus problems and he spent part of that day having his doctor stick cocaine covered Q-tips up his nose.
Why can't I find a doctor like that?
December 7th, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:41 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^
The commemoration is appropriate, but wasn't it the U.S. Navy that took the brunt of the attack?
December 7th, 2015 at 10:34 AM ^
December 7th, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^
My grandfather was a navigator in the South Pacific. He helped fly supplies all over the place. I NEVER heard him talk about the war. My mother said he mentioned it once in his life to her, only when asked. RIP Granpa Howard and Thank You to The Greatest Generation.
December 7th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^
Army vet, grandson of a WWII Navy vet. He wasn't at Pearl Harbor, though, too young. Enlisted in 1944 at 17. Ended up a Frogman/UDT. Didn't make the Island Hopping or the Philippines or Iwo Jima, but saw it all at Okinawa. I'm no enthusiast of nuclear weapons but there's probably a good chance I owe my existence to them as he'd have been right there if Operation Downfall had gone forward. Strange to think how many people never existed because of them. War is Hell.
Very interesting to think about the what-might-have-been had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor. I think we would have had to enter the war at some point. Roosevelt certainly saw the writing on the wall, but without an incident to sell it to the American public, who knows how long it might have taken. The Soviet Union may have still defeated Germany, in which case the real consequence would have been the Iron Curtain sitting on the Atlantic coast of Europe instead of the Elbe River.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
Pretty amazing place to visit. Met a PH veteran there in Feb. Only 4-5 left. Make sure to go soon.
Grandfather - WW2 Normady vet.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^
only 17 when pearl harbor happened, he went to MSU (thus do i pull for them, sometimes) until he and his best buddy were old enough to get in the service. he told the all-time best stories about boot camp, flight training, etc, and of course shared that he was at a friends house that sunday when the radio exploded with tne news of pearl harbor.
on father's day in 2011 i did my usual questioning of my dad about his life, including the war, in front of my children. i so want them to know about the greatest generation and indeed the heroism of their grandfather as their own legacy. my dad was 85 at the time and although in great health i thought it might be a good idea to record it, so i did. well, unbeknownst to anyone save the Almighty, my father would get sick and pass away a month later. i have his story preserved and have given copies to all 24 of his children/grandchildren/sons & daughters in law.
the greatest generation. as a nation we could use a big shot of their courage and integrity.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:05 AM ^
First of all, great story. Second, you should submit that recording to the National Archives. There's an ongoing project to collect oral histories from WWII veterans. This link has some info.
http://www.loc.gov/vets/about.html
December 7th, 2015 at 1:40 PM ^
his best friend was a guy named glen johnson who played QB and was the starting pitcher for msu back then. well they both got to fly planes in the war, but glen was a bomber pilot, B-24's. he always used to complain, with a smile on his face, 'your dad got to fly the mustang, and i was a (expletive) truck driver!'.
but dad played ball at state and indeed, that's where i saw my first college football game. so as much as i think dantonio is an odd duck, i tend to root for them as long as it doesn't hurt michigan.
December 7th, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^
In the annals of "What the Fuck Were You Thinking?" military decisions, this ranks right up there with Napoleon's winter invasion of Russia...
December 7th, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^
The very first shot fired in WWII was fired by the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein. That shot was fired against my great-great uncle, Henryk Sucharski, a Major in the Polish Army and the commander of a small group of forces on the Westerplatte peninsula.
They held off the Germans for a week, even though their orders were to only hold the position for 12 hours. The krauts were so impressed by their bravery that my uncle was offered honorable terms of surrender and was permitted to keep his sabre.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^
Held off the Germans for a week, but still couldn't get that light bulb screwed in or those ice cubes made. (Just kidding, very cool story... :-))
December 7th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
submarines, screen-doors, etc.
And now you know why I'm totally comfortable telling "offensive" jokes, being from a top-5 butt-of-jokes ethnic group.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
I still have family there. Krakow is a jewel; as beautiful as any city I've ever seen and remarkably unspoiled. Because it isn't as well-known as cities like Prague and Budapest, it's also not as crowded.
Just being there made me immensely proud of my Polish heritage.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^
is still over there. Scattered about the country a bit now, but we're originally from Tarnow.
There a lot of hidden gems in Poland, even for people without the bloodline. I can't wait to go back.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
Tells the story of the Polish Air Force contribution from their bases in England. I have just started reading it on my Kindle, in fact.
December 7th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^
One of my favorite Commanders of World War II, is Major General Stanislaw Sosabowski. He commanded a brigade in the defense of Warsaw, and later made his way to England after Dunkirk. He then commanded a Polish Airborne Unit. He was a hell of a soldier.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:15 AM ^
Last summer, I got an opportunity to visit a client at Hickam. There are still bullet holes from the Japanese planes in some of the exterior walls; they were not fully repaired as a reminder that we must always remain vigilant. Holes can even be seen in some of the stairwells.
I had two uncles (my father's brothers) in the USAAF in Europe; both in B-24s and both survived the war. The oldest brother was a radio operator and made it (barely) through his tour of duty. The other brother was a bombardier and was shot down during a mission over Czechoslovakia in August of 1944; he spent the rest of the war as a POW.
I'm eternally grateful to both. One of the best war movie lines I've ever heard was in a mini-series about Dwight Eisenhower (Tom Selleck played Ike).
So many fine young men and women from all corners of the earth... ...all determined to do their best to free a world gone half-mad.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:44 AM ^
My Dad volunteered after Pearl Harbor, went to officer school, and demolished mines on beaches while serving in the ordinance corps. He was a lieutenant.
He died in 1986, and was a super guy. We all still miss him.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^
My Dad's first cousin. He was one of the first Detroiters to enlist when the age was dropped to 17. His gun crew manned their gun until the abandon ship order was given. They went into the water together, that was the last time he was seen, his body was never recovered.
December 7th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
Grandfather on the U.S. side was in the Army. Grandfather on the Japan side worked for a parachute factory; family's house burned down. Naturally, both sides opposed my parents' marriage.
It's important not to forget, but also to remember the right reasons why. It's the lessons that are valuable, but always the first forgotten. For much of my life it seems that both sides were healing, but over the past few years it seems everyone wants to tear open old wounds again. It's rather sad to live through.
Oh, and pears are gorilla food. Apples >> pears.
December 7th, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^