2017 recruiting class attrition

During the Hoke era, people complained that Alabama recruited a lot more players than everyone else and then gave them a handshake when they didn't work out.   People on here alternated between mandatory 4 year scholarships across the NCAA or wanting to do the same thing.  

Well we're doing the same thing, but we're not doing the surprise gray shirts and other shennanigans.  In situations like JKP where guys get their degree I think it is great.   

It's a bummer to see guys like Solomon and Singleton, who you were rooting for, transfer, but what are you going to do?

Yes, seems like this is a feature, rather than a bug. 

Would've helped with depth at DL this season. 

People keep saying this but how many people here watch enough Tennessee football to know? I heard him mentioned in the bowl game. Don't know how many snaps he got though. Some said his stats weren't great but that can be very misleading for DL. Plus, DPJ is pretty crap if we're just looking at stats. 

Solomon had more tackles and TFL than any DL on our team other than Kemp.

About 3x as many tackles as our #2 (Hinton and Dwumfour).

I apologize for putting this here but ...that Wiltfong thing yesterday truly irritates me.   A person of his stature in the recruiting world saying what he did was unprofessional.  How could this not sway recruits, painting such a negative picture of literally our team's leadership....even if true.  

With that said....we've done reasonably well recruiting with ...no plans... no meetings....no nothing! 

Damn, how did we get that vaunted 2017 class without meetings or just having asst. coaches hope and pray that the kids they bring in fit the needs of the team?   Perhaps, Wiltfong should write an introspective article on how many of these players in this class and others are drastically over rated!

The staff goes for a lot of players with potential but underrated. Coaching them up is an issue no one seems to want to point to.  Coach Z is BY FAR, the one that has been able to develop his players. If we, for some reason, were to lose coach Z, watch the DBs decline rapidly. Ed Wariner is the other clear impactful coach in development. How many years now have we complained about lack of progress by QB, WR, RB, DE, TE , safeties? 

I would say St. Juste has done very well after transferring and his medial situation is still a mystery to me.   

Disagree re: DPJ.  His choice is come back and play for free or go pro and, assuming that he is as confident as most top college athletes, dominate the combine and be drafted in the top 3 rounds and make over $1 million to play the same game.  I don't get why so many people don't understand this.  If he goes pro, he is literally 3-months away from becoming a millionaire.

Here's a clip from a 2017 article from the Business Insider - the numbers are certainly higher in 2020:

Things really drop in the second round, where the average contract was worth about $5.1 million over four years ($1.3 million per year), according to Spotrac.com, but with only half of that guaranteed. The value of third-round contracts drops to $3.3 million, but takes an even bigger hit in guaranteed value, with the average contract worth just $756,000 in guaranteed money.

Once a player falls past the third round, most draft picks will sign a 4-year deal in the $2.4-2.9 million range. The only major difference late in the draft is the signing bonus, ranging from $400,000-600,000 in the fourth round to slightly more than $60,000 in the seventh round.

Sure, we all can sit here and say that he would benefit from another year (which I do agree with, by the way), but it's pretty hard for most 21 year-old athletes to turn that down. 

No.

Just because YOU don't think he was ready and want him back at UM, doesnt mean that he isn't ready.

Don't cherry-pick things to fit the argument. 

Oh for sure. Just take a look at our high ranked commits over the past few years. Was R. Gary as dominate as his ranking suggests? Same with DPJ. K. Walker. And a bunch of others. I don't know if I can say it's from Michigan coaching or just that they didn't develop. But like I've said before, a lot of the top players in the NFL were NOT top ranked prospects. Go look at Michael Thomas' recruiting profile. I think Michigan has had a decent amount of bad luck in the recruiting trail, with so many top tier players being misses for us. I'd be curious to go and see where the other top players from those cycles are, and if their recruiting profile ranking matches how they performed.

That being said, I do think we have just missed out on way too many prospects too. AJ Dillion at BC,Najee Harris, Mekhi Beckton at Louisville to name a few. We still have a top class with plenty to look forward to. 

I'd love for this to be evidence of improving player development.  In my mind, that's a hugely critical thing for a Michigan coach.  If we're going to improve relative to the peers we most want to beat, it's going to have to come from strong player development.  2017, a large make-up class to recover from Hoke... 2018, "disappointing" initially and on paper, but maybe looking better re: game performance?  That would be a positive sign....

It's hard to think it's coaching when guys like Hall go to CMU and don't play, Singleton goes to Rutgers and doesn't start, Solomon starts but puts up similar numbers to Kemp, etc.  The only loss that hurts was Hudson.  I think he'll be a fine tackle and his problem was a frustration over losing his spot on the depth chart after returning from injury.  But, the rest of the guys just weren't as good as their recruiting profiles would suggest.  But, you'd think film and evaluation should be better than having so many misses.

Well, we will probably never know. Most likely, the UM doctors saw something they weren't comfortable with, and the Minnesota docs either had a different opinion or weren't concerned. It happened before with Pipkins, who was allowed to play at TTU.